[SOLVED] Some opinions on various options for a build

[MSYF27]

What I'm trying to accomplish for this build is primarily for school and it will firmly be still my set-up after I graduate. I am under a creative course ( primarily digital, so 3D animation and video editing). Software wise it vary's on the teacher of the subject on what programs they prefer, so unfortunately I cant give a concrete answer in this aspect.

I do plan on streaming at one point, not games but in 3d modeling ( I prefer landscapes or cityscapes and scenes rather than characters). The biggest dilemma I have is that most articles and videos just give benchmarks and not much workflow depth. Most also state that almost always you do upgrade to a 32gb ram, but what is the big difference? Yes the size but I hope someone can give a better or more concrete example to what amount of assets differ between a 16gb kit and 32gb kit.

Here are the 3 options I have for builds:
*I already have a graphics card. It is low end (r5 270) but I am going to upgrade either during the rtx 3xxx launch or I may just end up with a rtx 2070 or 5700xt but it will be bought at a later date
**I am on a 1080p IPS panel which may lead to a 1440p ultra wide at somepoint but not in the near future.
***These 3 builds are almost at the same pricepoint (about $20 difference at most) I AM NOT IN THE US MARKET
****These parts are readily available where I live.
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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($322.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B450M MORTAR MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($69.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($66.95 @ Adorama)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($83.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $543.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor ($217.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B450M MORTAR MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($69.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($83.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $471.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($194.99 @ Walmart)
Motherboard: MSI B450M MORTAR MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: Patriot Viper Steel 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($83.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $508.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[Obakasama]

Personally think the choice is between the 3700X and 2700X. Gamers Nexus had a recent video making similar comparisons in Blender with the 2700 being slightly better than the 3600 (I'm keeping an eye on upgrading from a 1600 myself). Plus with the thought of streaming then more cores/threads should help.

Modeling-wise it really does depend with what you're working with. The graphics card should be able to hold a certain amount of textures (for example), but the amount of VRAM is fixed. Should these assets exceed what the graphics card is able to handle then (in my experience) you end up having to rely on the CPU and system RAM.

As for workflow... I think it may depend on what level you're involved with this sort of work. Level1Techs suggested having two PCs rather than just one to speed up workflow, though I think that use case is for professional workloads.

 

[MSYF27]

Personally think the choice is between the 3700X and 2700X. Gamers Nexus had a recent video making similar comparisons in Blender with the 2700 being slightly better than the 3600 (I'm keeping an eye on upgrading from a 1600 myself). Plus with the thought of streaming then more cores/threads should help.

Modeling-wise it really does depend with what you're working with. The graphics card should be able to hold a certain amount of textures (for example), but the amount of VRAM is fixed. Should these assets exceed what the graphics card is able to handle then (in my experience) you end up having to rely on the CPU and system RAM.

As for workflow... I think it may depend on what level you're involved with this sort of work. Level1Techs suggested having two PCs rather than just one to speed up workflow, though I think that use case is for professional workloads.

Yeah I've been watching those benchmarks as well as HardwareUnboxed and LTT ones. Seeing all 3 CPUs close to each other on those benchmark scores (besides the ones who do favor multicore/thread tests that the 3700x significantly wins) just cant give me a concrete reason to justify which one is for me.

I do take the Vram into consideration even though the GPU upgrade on my part may take a while, and different programs utilize components differently. Even in blender they have different engines to what component you want prioritize ( like evee/cycles), I assume from what I've gathered?.

Regarding workflow I'm sorry for not being concise, I was only referring to the experience of smooth modeling or editing, not entirely the whole procedure of making a project, uploading it etc. That extent is absolutely out of my reach.

 

[vslavkin]

for me the best are the 2700x and the 3700x, but ,if you can,change the power supply for one that have a plus bronze certification and put 32 gb of ram because with 16 you can fall short
Also you can put a 120 or 240 gb nvme and a hdd or ssd of 1tb to save cost

 

[MSYF27]

for me the best are the 2700x and the 3700x, but ,if you can,change the power supply for one that have a plus bronze certification and put 32 gb of ram because with 16 you can fall short
Also you can put a 120 or 240 gb nvme and a hdd or ssd of 1tb to save cost

That is a valid compromise for the significance of going 32gb. I already have storage in my current system anyway that I will use for the new build. For reference they are 256gb sata ssd and a 1tb 5400rpm barracuda.

but going m.2 nvme is really tempting. I also have to disagree going bronze though, maybe going down to fsp is an okay compromise

 

[Obakasama]

I haven't yet upgraded to Blender 2.8, but as I understand it it can use both CPU and GPU rendering at the same time (unlike previous versions). So whatever graphics card you get in future it will only aid your rendering. Also supposedly has new coding to take advantage of the RTX cores too.

In terms of smooth experience then CPU and RAM will be the things to prioritise (at least from my experience with Blender).