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Intel uptime of 9 minutes now.. impressive LOL.

I read somewhere else they removed a videocard from both systems because the intel system wouldn't work properly with 2 videocards.. anyone know where he got that from ? Indeed both AMD and intel systems now only have one GPU. Too bad they just didn't let the AMD continue working, it was doing just fine with 2 gpu's.

Impressive show by intel too, overheating, crashing, not working with 2 videocards (causing the NB to overheat ?).. I'm sure that will rid us of the Porkster troll.

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They might have changed psu but they had the fan off the heatsink too... probably put it back on.

Edit: Tapa if they changed the psu they would have to reattach the cables to right by the memory... or he was just feeling them up... (I do that to ram too)




<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by NT78stonewobble on 06/08/05 07:12 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
What, is an 850 watt PSU not enough for the Intel rig?!



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<font color=green>AMD</font color=green> Athlon64, Abit AV8.
<font color=blue>Intel</font color=blue> Dual PIII, Asus P2B-DS.
<font color=blue>VIA</font color=blue> Epia M9000.
<font color=red>I</font color=red><font color=green>B</font color=green><font color=blue>M</font color=blue> Thinkpad 570E.
 
Looked like they also had a couple of heat sensor on both the NB and CPU heat sinks.




<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by kps on 06/08/05 07:18 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
Did you guys notice the fan rotation speed of the Intel HSF ? Not sure how correct these graphs are, but even when the cpu was cooking at 90°C is was only doing ~2000rpm. Oh the irony, Porksters "more reliable for business" slow speed fan just might have failed LOL. Anyway, sounds like a reasonable explanation for the extreme temps. 840EE sure is hot, but shouldn't run at 90°C with adequate cooling.

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I'm pretty sure that atleast the amd farcry counter (number of runs) didnt increase at all while they were fixing the other...

Did any of the other counters increase?

Edit: P4man... I think they started the whole test with just 2 counters for the intel...

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by NT78stonewobble on 06/08/05 07:23 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
Intel commercial: "While other systems will make you feel cold during the winter, a proper P4 will definately warm your heart and your family and even your entire house while still being a fast CPU in your PC!!" Some say that the next geneartion of NetBurst Pentiums might be used to cook meals.
 
LMAO !!! it seems like they disabled HT !
Look at the week chart of the 840EE (the 24hr isnt working), it now only shows <b>2 cpu's </b> instead of 4 ! Or did one of the cores of the cpu fry ? ROFL !!!!!

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I also see they swapped motherboards for the P4. The one they are using now doesn't have the fancy NB cooler ?

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Now that both machines are back up and running we can see that the Intel machine is using 371 watts vs AMDs 267 watts. That's a hell of a difference.

Interesting is that the AMD machine lost about 80 watts with the removal of a VGA card but the Intel machine lost about 140 watts!!

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<font color=green>AMD</font color=green> Athlon64, Abit AV8.
<font color=blue>Intel</font color=blue> Dual PIII, Asus P2B-DS.
<font color=blue>VIA</font color=blue> Epia M9000.
<font color=red>I</font color=red><font color=green>B</font color=green><font color=blue>M</font color=blue> Thinkpad 570E.
 
this one
<A HREF="http://www.tomshardware.com/stresstest/intel.html" target="_new">http://www.tomshardware.com/stresstest/intel.html</A>

Second chart below, week overview. Then again, on the bottom of the chart it says 6/6/2005 while the 24hr one is 6/8/2005 so it seems neither of them are up to date. Still curious why it only shows 2 cores on the bottom one.

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Yeah the mobos have changed but I think that was yesterday. They went from the Gigabyte Nforce 4 one to an Asus Nforce 4 one and now to an Asus Intel 955x based one.

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<font color=green>AMD</font color=green> Athlon64, Abit AV8.
<font color=blue>Intel</font color=blue> Dual PIII, Asus P2B-DS.
<font color=blue>VIA</font color=blue> Epia M9000.
<font color=red>I</font color=red><font color=green>B</font color=green><font color=blue>M</font color=blue> Thinkpad 570E.
 
I don't think they were showing the 2 extra 'Logical' cores of the P4 originally. When they started the test over again they changed the 24 hour graph to display all 4.

Both graphs are out of date, though.

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<font color=green>AMD</font color=green> Athlon64, Abit AV8.
<font color=blue>Intel</font color=blue> Dual PIII, Asus P2B-DS.
<font color=blue>VIA</font color=blue> Epia M9000.
<font color=red>I</font color=red><font color=green>B</font color=green><font color=blue>M</font color=blue> Thinkpad 570E.
 
>Both graphs are out of date, though.

The AMD 24hr chart seems to work just fine. Maybe the 840EE doesn't have enough threading capability to handle the Webtemp updates 😀


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I take it they are pulling data off the machines from
them being connected to a network, so they should plug in
the Network cable back into the intel machine.
That could be why the graph are not upto date
 
Regarding the powerusage: If they switched out the 850 watt psu that might have something to do with the intel rig loosing 140 watts when loosing a graphix card.

A new and smaller wattage psu might waste less power but I dunno...

PS: Didnt the voltages on the intel rig seem fine? I mean the only weird thing was the temp curve -> 90 c most of the time then lowering for a few mins then up 2 90 c again...
 
Good point about the PSU and power usage.

Oh, and the Intel machine is back on the desktop!

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<font color=green>AMD</font color=green> Athlon64, Abit AV8.
<font color=blue>Intel</font color=blue> Dual PIII, Asus P2B-DS.
<font color=blue>VIA</font color=blue> Epia M9000.
<font color=red>I</font color=red><font color=green>B</font color=green><font color=blue>M</font color=blue> Thinkpad 570E.
 
It's back to FarCry now and the 24 hour graph is working.

Mmm, the temps seem better as well: 85 degrees rather than 90.

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<font color=green>AMD</font color=green> Athlon64, Abit AV8.
<font color=blue>Intel</font color=blue> Dual PIII, Asus P2B-DS.
<font color=blue>VIA</font color=blue> Epia M9000.
<font color=red>I</font color=red><font color=green>B</font color=green><font color=blue>M</font color=blue> Thinkpad 570E.
 
They fixed it. The intel machine is happily burning at a cool 85°C again boasting an impressive upime of over 40 minutes with no crashes or meltdowns. Will it last a full hour ?

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I was just looking at the AMD weekly temps, There are a copule of time when its temp drops. I was wondering if there any correlation with when the intel has been offline.
if so it shows that it could heat a house. LOL
 
Now we can allways speculate why it is ok for the intel to run with "4" processors (enabled HT) when the amd isn't allowed to run with SLI.

😉 Mebbe amd should just claim their processors to be sli capable...

N e ways IMO they should have kept both systems as SLI. I'd like to know what I was up against If I ever wanted sli. Powerusage and so forth...
 
THG must be pulling out their collective hairs. They have swapped almost everything in the Intel system at least one time if not more. They have likely flashed the BIOS many times on each board. They have likely also been talking to litterally dozens of techs and engineers at all the manufactures. They are trying to narrow the issue down.

This all sounds like the P3 1.13Ghz launch a several years back. I bet he has contacted at least 2 other review sites with P-EE samples to try to duplicate the stability issues.

I would not be too supprised to se a monster cooler like the Zalman 7700 or even water cooling tried eventually, just to see if the instabilities are caused by heat... Think about this. You have two cores running, but where is the temp diode. One core or a portion of the core might be overheating a lot worse than the rest. It could be between the two cores or something.

I am also thinking it might be do to HT. With HT disabled though the P-EE (well P-D at that time) would likely suffer like AMD from running more applications then logical or physical cores. Something is going to be put on the lowest priority and go VERY slow like the DivX on AMD. I have heard that HT does add quite a bit of heat to a CPU. We might see the P-EE canced and Intel will be left with the P-D only.
 
Anyone notice with the latest change the 12 volt and 5 volt rails swithed interms of over power. Before the 12v was at 12.3v and now down to 12v while the 5v is at 5.3v from 5.0v -+ .1
 
<takes a step back...> In all seriousness...we're doing some pretty heavy Intel bashing (not without good reason...) but i'd be interested in seeing what the cpu is really capable of. I wish they'd give up on showing a honest test, and just put water on that biatch and fix the divX thing or replace it with something else.

We all knew that the Intel chips were going to run hotter, and we thought we knew that they wouldn't process information as well.

Anyway, what we need now are more then Intel based tests. We need a system running for several days with 1 program, 2 programs, 4 programs and say...8 programs. To get a better overall feel for multitasking performance. They also need to switch up programs, perhaps based on feedback from us? Let the readers choose! Power to the People!

F@H:
AMD: [64 3000+][2500+][2000+ down][1.3x2][366]
Intel: [X 3.0x3][P4 3.0x2][P4 2.4x5 down][P4 1.4]

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