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There has been an overly emotional discussion in another thread about the
difference (or lack thereof) between PKs and duelers. I am interested in
finding out how others use the terms. For myself:

PVP - general category covering both PK and dueling
PK - players who attempt to kill other players without notifying them (as in
a dueling game) of their intention
Dueler - player who attempts to kill another player only after notification
(as in game name or via conversation) of their intent

However, I am willing to admit that this might not be the way in which
others use the terms, so I am interested in your opinions.
 
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"doodles" <tomfulton53nospammer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> There has been an overly emotional discussion in another thread about the
> difference (or lack thereof) between PKs and duelers. I am interested in
> finding out how others use the terms. For myself:
>
> PVP - general category covering both PK and dueling
> PK - players who attempt to kill other players without notifying them (as
> in
> a dueling game) of their intention
> Dueler - player who attempts to kill another player only after
> notification
> (as in game name or via conversation) of their intent
>
> However, I am willing to admit that this might not be the way in which
> others use the terms, so I am interested in your opinions.
>

nice try. if everyone here consistently used those terms with those
definitions, then i would have no problem. I will use your terms and your
definitions here.

the other thread dealt with a post from someone who used the term pk'er and
dueler interchangably and lumped all PvP types in the same mold, assuming
that if he traded an "item" (a bonesnap. wasn't even a GOOD item) away to a
PvP'er, that it would be bad because they would then use it against decent
gamers (which i took from the context of his message) to mean PvM'ers.

i hold him no ill will, and mearly pointed out that not all PvP type of
Diablo play is NOT designed to mess u PvM types.

i never did see what it was that pissed "ald" off. i don't think
fundamentally that he disagrees with me. maybe he just had too much
chocolate milk (theres caffiene in that there carton).

i like the definitions. i hope it catches on a lot more.

paul
'riever'
 
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On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 16:45:35 GMT, "doodles"
<tomfulton53nospammer@hotmail.com> wrote:

>There has been an overly emotional discussion in another thread about the
>difference (or lack thereof) between PKs and duelers. I am interested in
>finding out how others use the terms. For myself:
>
>PVP - general category covering both PK and dueling
>PK - players who attempt to kill other players without notifying them (as in
>a dueling game) of their intention
>Dueler - player who attempts to kill another player only after notification
>(as in game name or via conversation) of their intent
>
>However, I am willing to admit that this might not be the way in which
>others use the terms, so I am interested in your opinions.
>

PVP and Dueler is synomous to me. I can't say much about them as I've
never really been exposed to it rather than what I read in the group.

I somewhat agree with your definiton of PKer. Technically, pushing
the hostile button IS notifying the other players of intent to kill.
Sometimes there is not enough time to react which is the case with
most PKs using hacks. The major definition of a PK for me which you
did not cover is that PK is there to ruin everyone elses fun of the
game. They serve no purpose in the game other than to stop everyone
else in whatever they were doing whether it was questing/levelling or
what have you. Their intent is to piss you off or to stop you from
playing.

I'm sure there are others here who will claim that there are honorable
PKers. As far as I'm concerned, they are all scum who are out to ruin
my game. If they want the "thrill of the hunt", then create such a
game and don't enter my game where I am level 9 and they are level 88
and I've clearly stated in the game name that I'm trying to rescue
Cain.

Alan
--
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:29:22 -0700, "paul" <nospam.riever@cox.net>
wrote:

>i never did see what it was that pissed "ald" off. i don't think
>fundamentally that he disagrees with me. maybe he just had too much
>chocolate milk (theres caffiene in that there carton).
>
>i like the definitions. i hope it catches on a lot more.
>
>paul
>'riever'

I had to go back and look at my posts, but I still don't see where you
think I was pissed off. If I came across that way, I'm sorry, the only
thing that *does* piss me off is when a PK (by *my* definition) comes
into my game and manages to ruin it (I have one funny story where one
tried and failed, but I won't go into that again here). FWIW, the way
I think of the terms, PvP and Duelers are synonymous, PKs are a
separate and despicable class.

ald
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:29:22 -0700, "paul" <nospam.riever@cox.net>
wrote:

>
>"doodles" <tomfulton53nospammer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> There has been an overly emotional discussion in another thread about the
>> difference (or lack thereof) between PKs and duelers. I am interested in
>> finding out how others use the terms. For myself:
>>
>> PVP - general category covering both PK and dueling
>> PK - players who attempt to kill other players without notifying them (as
>> in
>> a dueling game) of their intention
>> Dueler - player who attempts to kill another player only after
>> notification
>> (as in game name or via conversation) of their intent
>>
>> However, I am willing to admit that this might not be the way in which
>> others use the terms, so I am interested in your opinions.
>>
>
>nice try. if everyone here consistently used those terms with those
>definitions, then i would have no problem. I will use your terms and your
>definitions here.
>
>the other thread dealt with a post from someone who used the term pk'er and
>dueler interchangably and lumped all PvP types in the same mold, assuming
>that if he traded an "item" (a bonesnap. wasn't even a GOOD item) away to a
>PvP'er, that it would be bad because they would then use it against decent
>gamers (which i took from the context of his message) to mean PvM'ers.
>

This is what phil wrote in full:

<begin quote>
I found an ethereal bonesnap on the ladder (USEast softcore). I'm
assuming it's worth something to someone such as a low-level dueler,
but it's probably worth the most to a low-level hammer/charge pally
pk'er. Since it's softcore, I'm thinking it wouldn't be too unethical
to trade it. But should I just keep it rather than potentially
empowering another pk'er?
<end quote>

Now where exactly did he use the term pker and dueler interchangeably?

>i hold him no ill will, and mearly pointed out that not all PvP type of
>Diablo play is NOT designed to mess u PvM types.
>
>i never did see what it was that pissed "ald" off. i don't think
>fundamentally that he disagrees with me. maybe he just had too much
>chocolate milk (theres caffiene in that there carton).
>

I think it was your inability to understand other peoples point of
view.

>i like the definitions. i hope it catches on a lot more.
>

I believe it already has caught on.

Alan
--
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"ald" <103175.3500@compuserve.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:29:22 -0700, "paul" <nospam.riever@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>>i never did see what it was that pissed "ald" off. i don't think
>>fundamentally that he disagrees with me. maybe he just had too much
>>chocolate milk (theres caffiene in that there carton).
>>
>>i like the definitions. i hope it catches on a lot more.
>>
>>paul
>>'riever'
>
> I had to go back and look at my posts, but I still don't see where you
> think I was pissed off. If I came across that way, I'm sorry, the only
> thing that *does* piss me off is when a PK (by *my* definition) comes
> into my game and manages to ruin it (I have one funny story where one
> tried and failed, but I won't go into that again here). FWIW, the way
> I think of the terms, PvP and Duelers are synonymous, PKs are a
> separate and despicable class.
>
> ald
> reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com

my sincere apologies. i meant to refer to doodles with my rude comments, NOT
to you. you have been decent and polite at all times. everybody screws up,
but i should have checked myself before i spouted off.
no hard feelings?

paul
"riever"
 
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 12:12:14 -0700, "paul" <nospam.riever@cox.net>
wrote:

>my sincere apologies. i meant to refer to doodles with my rude comments, NOT
>to you. you have been decent and polite at all times. everybody screws up,
>but i should have checked myself before i spouted off.
>no hard feelings?
>
>paul

None whatsoever ;-)

ald
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"Alan Ladd" <OnlyALadd68@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:29:22 -0700, "paul" <nospam.riever@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"doodles" <tomfulton53nospammer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> There has been an overly emotional discussion in another thread about
>>> the
>>> difference (or lack thereof) between PKs and duelers. I am interested
>>> in
>>> finding out how others use the terms. For myself:
>>>
>>> PVP - general category covering both PK and dueling
>>> PK - players who attempt to kill other players without notifying them
>>> (as
>>> in
>>> a dueling game) of their intention
>>> Dueler - player who attempts to kill another player only after
>>> notification
>>> (as in game name or via conversation) of their intent
>>>
>>> However, I am willing to admit that this might not be the way in which
>>> others use the terms, so I am interested in your opinions.
>>>
>>
>>nice try. if everyone here consistently used those terms with those
>>definitions, then i would have no problem. I will use your terms and your
>>definitions here.
>>
>>the other thread dealt with a post from someone who used the term pk'er
>>and
>>dueler interchangably and lumped all PvP types in the same mold, assuming
>>that if he traded an "item" (a bonesnap. wasn't even a GOOD item) away to
>>a
>>PvP'er, that it would be bad because they would then use it against decent
>>gamers (which i took from the context of his message) to mean PvM'ers.
>>
>
> This is what phil wrote in full:
>
> <begin quote>
> I found an ethereal bonesnap on the ladder (USEast softcore). I'm
> assuming it's worth something to someone such as a low-level dueler,
> but it's probably worth the most to a low-level hammer/charge pally
> pk'er. Since it's softcore, I'm thinking it wouldn't be too unethical
> to trade it. But should I just keep it rather than potentially
> empowering another pk'er?
> <end quote>
>
> Now where exactly did he use the term pker and dueler interchangeably?
>
>>i hold him no ill will, and mearly pointed out that not all PvP type of
>>Diablo play is NOT designed to mess u PvM types.
>>
>>i never did see what it was that pissed "ald" off. i don't think
>>fundamentally that he disagrees with me. maybe he just had too much
>>chocolate milk (theres caffiene in that there carton).
>>
>
> I think it was your inability to understand other peoples point of
> view.
>
>>i like the definitions. i hope it catches on a lot more.
>>
>
> I believe it already has caught on.
>

lol, okay. like i said in the other thread, i have no interest in an
argument over semantics. if i misunderstood anyone or misrepresented their
opinions i apologize. i wasn't meaning to hurt anyones feelings, it seemed
an arogant post that anyone could assume anyone elses intentions. semantics
aside, PK'ers don't wear a t-shirt that says "im out to ruin your gaming
experience". i personally wouldn't give them the honor of a "special" name
like PK'ers. I would call them what i have called them for years. Jerks! I
just don't want to get lumped in the same bucket with the scum, just because
i enjoy PvP.

anyway, thats it for me on this subject. i won't argue semantics, and will
just withdraw peacfully, having made (overmade?) my point.

paul
"riever"

> Alan
> --
> USWest - SonofJorEl, SonofJorEl2-3 Ladder SC
> USEast - SonofJorEl, SonofJorEl2-4 Ladder & Non, SC & HC
 
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"doodles" <tomfulton53nospammer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> There has been an overly emotional discussion in another thread about the
> difference (or lack thereof) between PKs and duelers. I am interested in
> finding out how others use the terms. For myself:
>
> PVP - general category covering both PK and dueling

I agree

> PK - players who attempt to kill other players without notifying them (as
> in
> a dueling game) of their intention

Except that notifying them isn't enough to remove the action from the PK
catagory. If notified, and the victum hasn't agreed to duel, it's still PK.
In most cases the PK player's real intent seems to be to ruin the victums
fun, as a typical PVM character has zero chance of defending himself against
a properly outfitted PVP character, even if the PVM character is many levels
higher.

> Dueler - player who attempts to kill another player only after
> notification
> (as in game name or via conversation) of their intent

And, the other player agrees to the duel. At this point, it's just two (or
more) players having fun. Good legit duelers are often among the very best
players in the game, and rarely, if ever, frowned upon by PVM players.

> However, I am willing to admit that this might not be the way in which
> others use the terms, so I am interested in your opinions.

Ruben
 
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There is something to be said for the thrill of trying to kill someone else
before they have an opportunity to retaliate. But this thrill only applies
in cases in which you are trying to PK someone HIGHER in level than you,
because the consequences if you fail can be deadly. However, that is not
the typical PKer...mostly they prey on characters lower in level (in many
cases, MUCH lower in level) than they. And their purpose, you're right, is
simply to ruin someone else's day.

However, something else to remember is this: a PvM build is often
dramatically different from a PvP build. So when a PKer attempts to kill
someone else in an "Act 3 All Quests" game, they are typically going after
PvM characters with a custom-built PvP character. Hardly fair, but I would
give them the benefit of the doubt if they at least were attempting it
against characters higher level than themselves.

This discussion makes me realize that there is a build variant I haven't
tried...building a PvP PK character solely for attacking players at a higher
level than myself. Not a dueler, but kind of a "PKer with class."

"Alan Ladd" <OnlyALadd68@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 16:45:35 GMT, "doodles"
> <tomfulton53nospammer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >There has been an overly emotional discussion in another thread about the
> >difference (or lack thereof) between PKs and duelers. I am interested in
> >finding out how others use the terms. For myself:
> >
> >PVP - general category covering both PK and dueling
> >PK - players who attempt to kill other players without notifying them (as
in
> >a dueling game) of their intention
> >Dueler - player who attempts to kill another player only after
notification
> >(as in game name or via conversation) of their intent
> >
> >However, I am willing to admit that this might not be the way in which
> >others use the terms, so I am interested in your opinions.
> >
>
> PVP and Dueler is synomous to me. I can't say much about them as I've
> never really been exposed to it rather than what I read in the group.
>
> I somewhat agree with your definiton of PKer. Technically, pushing
> the hostile button IS notifying the other players of intent to kill.
> Sometimes there is not enough time to react which is the case with
> most PKs using hacks. The major definition of a PK for me which you
> did not cover is that PK is there to ruin everyone elses fun of the
> game. They serve no purpose in the game other than to stop everyone
> else in whatever they were doing whether it was questing/levelling or
> what have you. Their intent is to piss you off or to stop you from
> playing.
>
> I'm sure there are others here who will claim that there are honorable
> PKers. As far as I'm concerned, they are all scum who are out to ruin
> my game. If they want the "thrill of the hunt", then create such a
> game and don't enter my game where I am level 9 and they are level 88
> and I've clearly stated in the game name that I'm trying to rescue
> Cain.
>
> Alan
> --
> USWest - SonofJorEl, SonofJorEl2-3 Ladder SC
> USEast - SonofJorEl, SonofJorEl2-4 Ladder & Non, SC & HC
 
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"doodles" <tomfulton53nospammer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> There is something to be said for the thrill of trying to kill someone
> else
> before they have an opportunity to retaliate. But this thrill only
> applies
> in cases in which you are trying to PK someone HIGHER in level than you,

you and alan BOTH have slightly different definitions from what YOU posted
above as being the "definitive" definitions and usage of the words. but
this is all semantics, and i have a few demons to slay, and that takes
prefference.

you both take care, and don't take stuff so personally. i was NEVER
attacking you. that would be akin to PK (as defined in section A part I
paragraph 33, as opposed to the definition in section B part II paragraph 7,
or the variation found in the glossary at the end of you alls posts, lol)

paul
"riever"
 
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On Wed, 02 Feb 2005, "doodles" wrote:

>> There has been an overly emotional discussion in another thread about the
>> difference (or lack thereof) between PKs and duelers. I am interested in
>> finding out how others use the terms. For myself:
>>
>> PVP - general category covering both PK and dueling

I use it only for Dueling. PVP implies that the players are in contest
with the players. PKers do their work from town, so that nothing can
touch them. Comparing PvP players to PKers is comparing street toughs
who like to fight other street toughs to remote-control-bomb Jihadistani
loony sickos.

>> PK - players who attempt to kill other players without notifying them (as in
>> a dueling game) of their intention.

Bushwhacking griefer scum trash. Triggerhack is their way of "life".

>> Dueler - player who attempts to kill another player only after notification
>> (as in game name or via conversation) of their intent

Somebody who may be a PKer disguised as a Dueler by means of cheats or
an honest player looking for The Real Challenge.

>> However, I am willing to admit that this might not be the way in which
>> others use the terms, so I am interested in your opinions.


--

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PK- spineless cowards that use hacks and cheats to prey on unsuspecting
people because they can win no other way
they should make it so both parties MUST select hostile in order to kill
another player
it is such an accomplishment to build a PvP character to take out PvM
characters. PKers are actually low life losers that have no life or friends
in real life. They are the ones that fill our prisons because they are the
ones that lie, cheat, steal and their colors shine through on the game.

DUELERS- Respectful players that wish to test their mettle against other
player characters and do so with respect and honor. They openly
challenge/accept challenges for character vs. character combat. They don't
sneak, hide, or even need to use hacks/cheats. Typically they win and/or
lose with respect, dignity, and honor.

PvP- a type of build researched and suited for high power combat and mass
damages. On average are pretty good. But, usually cannot even compete in
game as they cannot finish all areas of game due to their specificty and
lack of skills.


"doodles" <tomfulton53nospammer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> There has been an overly emotional discussion in another thread about the
> difference (or lack thereof) between PKs and duelers. I am interested in
> finding out how others use the terms. For myself:
>
> PVP - general category covering both PK and dueling
> PK - players who attempt to kill other players without notifying them (as
in
> a dueling game) of their intention
> Dueler - player who attempts to kill another player only after
notification
> (as in game name or via conversation) of their intent
>
> However, I am willing to admit that this might not be the way in which
> others use the terms, so I am interested in your opinions.
>
>
 
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Oh God why is this so messed up ..LOOK here it is in black and white



>>> PVP - general category covering both PK and dueling

WRONG....PVP has nothing to do with PKing. Player VS Player was set out to
be and still is A player against a player with notification..both parties
agree to see who can beat who one on one.

PK - a worthless player who lacks the playing and social skills to even be
in the damn game as far as most are cocerned..cheaters and Jerks.who come
into a legit game and try to kill other players without
notification..chickenshits.

Duelers...similar in respect to PVP...testing their abilties against other
like classes. The original way this started was one class against the same
class..example: veng pally against a Smite Pally etc etc.


Pretty simple...you cant lump PVP and PK into the same classifications at
all regardless...just isnt that way and never was. sorry if I offend anyone
with this post but its the truth...most will agree..for those of you that
dont..then either you have no idea about Diablo or how it is played or you
are just lack the intellect to discern the differences between the
classifications.

Sorry again If i offend anyone

**~NiGhThAwK~**
 
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"Hawk" <nighthawk012663@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Oh God why is this so messed up ..LOOK here it is in black and white
>
>
>
>>>> PVP - general category covering both PK and dueling
>
> WRONG....PVP has nothing to do with PKing. Player VS Player was set out to
> be and still is A player against a player with notification..both parties
> agree to see who can beat who one on one.
>
> Sorry again If i offend anyone
>
> **~NiGhThAwK~**

you didn't offend me. you made my point exactly. there is no ONE definition
of these terms, so when people talk in generalities about some aspect of
playing the game they should not be hung out to dry for "mis-using the
proper definition of the term".

thanks. i think this ends this poll.

paul
arizona

ps. has anyone else noted that a year ago there were 10's of thousands of
players playing diablo2 at any one time on the bnet and that today there are
maybe only a few hundered? 1.10 patch ran off 90% of the players, and didn't
end rushing ANYway.
 
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:37:29 +1300, ~misfit~ <misfit61nz@hooya.co.nz>
wrote:

> paul wrote:
>>
>> ps. has anyone else noted that a year ago there were 10's of
>> thousands of players playing diablo2 at any one time on the bnet and
>> that today there are maybe only a few hundered? 1.10 patch ran off
>> 90% of the players, and didn't end rushing ANYway.
>
> How can you tell how many people are playing at any one time? Just
> curious.

Says at the top of the chat screen when you "Enter Chat".
And I never see fewer than 30,000 or so. Just looked and there were 69k
plus, all playing LoD.

--
freemont
 
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, "Hawk" wrote:

>> Oh God why is this so messed up ..LOOK here it is in black and white

If YOU are THE AUTHORITY... which you isn't.

>> >>> PVP - general category covering both PK and dueling
>>
>> WRONG....

(in the opinion of one, some, or many, but...)

>> PK - a worthless player who lacks the playing and social skills to even be
>> in the damn game as far as most are cocerned..cheaters and Jerks.who come
>> into a legit game and try to kill other players without
>> notification..chickenshits.

I'd agree completely.

>> Duelers...similar in respect to PVP...

You can't duel *except* in PvP... and if (per your definition PKers
aren't PvP, then all duelers are PvP and all PvP is dueling...

>> Pretty simple...you cant lump PVP and PK into the same classifications at
>> all regardless...

Unless you do.

>> sorry if I offend anyone

>> Sorry again If i offend anyone

Not easy to do... and you haven't.


--

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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:32:08 -0500, Freemont <yabba@dabba.doo> wrote:

>On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:37:29 +1300, ~misfit~ <misfit61nz@hooya.co.nz>
>wrote:
>
>> paul wrote:
>>>
>>> ps. has anyone else noted that a year ago there were 10's of
>>> thousands of players playing diablo2 at any one time on the bnet and
>>> that today there are maybe only a few hundered? 1.10 patch ran off
>>> 90% of the players, and didn't end rushing ANYway.
>>
>> How can you tell how many people are playing at any one time? Just
>> curious.
>
>Says at the top of the chat screen when you "Enter Chat".
>And I never see fewer than 30,000 or so. Just looked and there were 69k
>plus, all playing LoD.

You can also use the /users command
Currently, 2100 players in 700 games.
Used to be 10 times that.
(Classic D2, btw)
....
 
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"noneyabusiness" <me@you.com> wrote in message
news:9lk011teoj3av6e09eeli5lllb9pilll9i@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:32:08 -0500, Freemont <yabba@dabba.doo>
wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:37:29 +1300, ~misfit~
<misfit61nz@hooya.co.nz>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> paul wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ps. has anyone else noted that a year ago there were 10's of
> >>> thousands of players playing diablo2 at any one time on the bnet
and
> >>> that today there are maybe only a few hundered? 1.10 patch ran
off
> >>> 90% of the players, and didn't end rushing ANYway.
> >>
> >> How can you tell how many people are playing at any one time?
Just
> >> curious.
> >
> >Says at the top of the chat screen when you "Enter Chat".
> >And I never see fewer than 30,000 or so. Just looked and there were
69k
> >plus, all playing LoD.
>
> You can also use the /users command
> Currently, 2100 players in 700 games.
> Used to be 10 times that.
> (Classic D2, btw)

Classic D2 *WITHOUT LOD* was always going to die... everybody has the
expansion, and those that haven't got it are going to get it. And more
importantly, *nobody new is going to buy it without the expansion*
because D2 is now sold with its expansion in a single boxpack, at less
than half the price that each of the two packs used to be sold
separately.

Not a dying game: just a dying *incomplete* game. The complete version
is still going.

Jonathan.
 
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 07:50:19 GMT, noneyabusiness <me@you.com> wrote:

>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:32:08 -0500, Freemont <yabba@dabba.doo> wrote:
>>
>> >On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:37:29 +1300, ~misfit~ <misfit61nz@hooya.co.nz>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> paul wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> ps. has anyone else noted that a year ago there were 10's of
>> >>> thousands of players playing diablo2 at any one time on the bnet and
>> >>> that today there are maybe only a few hundered? 1.10 patch ran off
>> >>> 90% of the players, and didn't end rushing ANYway.
>> >>
>> >> How can you tell how many people are playing at any one time? Just
>> >> curious.
>> >
>> >Says at the top of the chat screen when you "Enter Chat".
>> >And I never see fewer than 30,000 or so. Just looked and there were 69k
>> >plus, all playing LoD.
>>
>> You can also use the /users command
>> Currently, 2100 players in 700 games.
>> Used to be 10 times that.
>> (Classic D2, btw)
>> ...

I got 57282 users in 7803 games... average is then 7 players/game (7.3
but round down for spambots...)

I don't believe those numbers....

Anybody here think they're legit?

--

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