T. Martin Incident

[wanamingo]

I dont know Ive seen some pretty nasty wounds from fights that last 10 seconds. He does appear to be fine but its grainy footage and the only info we have about his injuries is 2 sentences of news blips.

Ive read yesterday that Martin was on the phone with his girlfriend and according to her (I think....Not sure if recorded) They were talking and he paused said something to the effect of "Someone is following me" Asks the "Pursuer" whats up. Unknown response phone knocked to the ground and disabled.

 

[fazers_on_stun]

Personally speaking I think Zimmerman is lying to cover his ass. He is much bigger than Martin and looks much stronger also. This fallacy about his head hitting the ground is bullshit to me. He made this up.

Personally I think it is too soon to tell. While Zimmerman is heavier than Martin he's also shorter. The video of Zimmerman's arrival at the police station is some 4 hours afterwards and not enough detail in it to make any judgment IMO. However given Zimmerman's previous run-ins with the law, I dunno..

What I find most reprehensible is Congress getting involved and now wanting to spend probably milliions of tax dollars to 'investigate' this, which actually means spending our $$$ to look good and improve their re-election chances.. Let the local investigation conclude first.

 

[musical marv]

Personally I think it is too soon to tell. While Zimmerman is heavier than Martin he's also shorter. The video of Zimmerman's arrival at the police station is some 4 hours afterwards and not enough detail in it to make any judgment IMO. However given Zimmerman's previous run-ins with the law, I dunno..

What I find most reprehensible is Congress getting involved and now wanting to spend probably milliions of tax dollars to 'investigate' this, which actually means spending our $$$ to look good and improve their re-election chances.. Let the local investigation conclude first.

I agree with you this Government intervention is to much already for the taxpayers to bare. Let the state of Florida handle this problem.Everyday a new story comes up Zimmerman and Martin.

 

[jsc]

I just heard on a morning news update that there is surveillance video of the incident that "undercuts" Zimmermans story that Martin attacked him. Undercut is their word not mine and they didn't elaborate.

^ Yeah, ABC news broke the story IIRC. But that video was taken some 4 hours after the alleged beating by Martin and Zimmerman was cleaned up a bit, by the paramedics I guess. However, if he actually had a broken nose, I'd think there would be some sort of bandage or whatever on it. Maybe just a bloody nose.

Wonder if and when all the facts will come out in this case..

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/pj-gladnick/2012/03/30/did-abc-news-purposely-use-unnecessary-chyron-cover-zimmermans-head-bru

 

[musical marv]

Yet another example of the media deliberately manipulating a story/event in order to elicit an emotional response from an uninformed and ignorant populace.

And guess what? It's working.

Seriously, who or what is the ringmaster of this circus?

It is getting to be like a soap opera.The media exaggerates all the time.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

And so0 does the other side of the coin as well, unfortunately, just not as often, and not as loud.
I will say, theres very few MSM reporters truly seeking the truth, and is why the reporter that went after the fast and furious fact finding recieved a lot of attention on Fox, and none on the other affiliates, save for the one she works for

 

[riser]

Kinda dropped out of the media a bit eh? More coverage on the events than about the actual justice system eh?

 

[musical marv]

Kinda dropped out of the media a bit eh? More coverage on the events than about the actual justice system eh?

This whole thing about Zimmerman and Martin is turning into a 3 ring circus.

 

[riser]

Turning? I think that's the only reason it made the news.

 

[wanamingo]

Who wants civil unrest? I dont follow....

 

[riser]

Select 'leaders' who gain by having unrest. If everything were as they wanted, they would have no cause.

What is a leader without people to follow? Or on a larger scale, What is a God without believers?

 

[wanamingo]

Oh so Sharpton killed Trayon Martin and staged this all to incite civil unrest?

That doesnt make sense. Two of those links are the same and Ive told you I dont watch Youtube videos to get information.

 

[wanamingo]

Lol chill out. I know this is a media frenzy I just wouldn't make the jump to conspiracy theory to incite violence in the streets not yet anyway.

 

[riser]

Everytime something comes up, Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton jump on it and try to make it a national race issue.

Why are they not coming out on the Black on Black crime? I can point to over 20 something shootings by black on black in my former hometown this year along.

I suppose it is ok to blacks to kill blacks then?

 

[riser]

Enhanced video is now out showing the gash on the back of Zimmerman's head. I can't tell clearly though what is the real gash and how big it is.

But at first glance, if what I thought was the gash in his head, shoot away.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Question?
Whats worse, racism/bigotry or those that use it as a living?

 

[riser]

If you look deeper you may find they both go hand in hand.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Good answer
So, we have a MSM being led by racists decrying racism, as the crime was portrayed as a white on black crime, ABC witholding facts, and this fellas latino?
Now, anyone that accepts the MSM's reasonings about the GOP, gun ownership, taxation, big government, womens issues, people of color issues, beware

 

[musical marv]

Turning? I think that's the only reason it made the news.

You could be right.It is a media frenzy who reports the most and latest news first among the media stations.

 

[wanamingo]

Can anyone find which part of "Stand your ground" is applicable to this case?

 

[riser]

You could be right.It is a media frenzy who reports the most and latest news first among the media stations.

What or who makes it news? Interestingly enough in my opinion, very recently an older black man (71 years old) shot a white teenager to death in Florida. The 71 year old man claimed self defense. The 71 year old man didn't like that the teenager was skateboarding on the outdoor basketball court. There was no information if anyone was playing basketball or the court otherwise in use. The man took his gun, went out and confronted (without the gun) the teenager. The police report states that the man was returning to his house when he was attacked by the teenager... which he promptly shot dead.

Small article in the Orlando times or something. Maybe in a month it'll blow up on MSM as well.

 

[fazers_on_stun]

And so0 does the other side of the coin as well, unfortunately, just not as often, and not as loud.
I will say, theres very few MSM reporters truly seeking the truth, and is why the reporter that went after the fast and furious fact finding recieved a lot of attention on Fox, and none on the other affiliates, save for the one she works for

Heh, everytime you type "MSM" I read it as "MSN", which is where I usually go to read my morning news. Slanted pretty far to the right, but then I'm used to that here in the Washington DC area, where we have the infamous Washington Post. I just learn to read around the slanty parts and unfounded hysteria and innuendo..

 

[l0ckd0wn]

Can anyone find which part of "Stand your ground" is applicable to this case?

It's not, according to the guy who wrote the law on the books in Florida, Zimmerman's defense wouldn't hold up in court because he wasn't defending his home or property, he was actively pursuing. This is what the law maker said in an NPR interview.

You should stick to the Washington Times fazers.

First headline, "GAS PRICES IMPERIL OBAMA CAMPAIGN" which is hilarious considering the president has next to no control of oil prices, regardless of the arguments you guys are going to try and rise. Economists and commodity experts both confirm this too, the only ones who use this language are stone-throwers and slant-oriented news writers who are trying to play off a misconception and misinformed public. Good ol' conservative media.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=the%20trouble%20with%20socialism%20is%20that%20eventually&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikiquote.org%2Fwiki%2FTalk%3AMargaret_Thatcher&ei=3Nt8T-_4FIWcgQfM7bCODA&usg=AFQjCNGOPVeyrHCrf_2Dc91OZEHMZ2AN0Q

 

[l0ckd0wn]

No idea wtf you are getting at JDJ...