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It seems that quite a few servers are now running this "anti cheat" mod.

I have installed it as per the instructions, but still keep getting kicked
after 30 seconds.

I have disabled the scripts I used to use - just in case - although none
could be considered as cheating - the only one that some might take
exception to was the "wide sniper" - which I don't use, but from memory
allowed you to have a small unzoomed view whilst sniping.

Also, when I connect, my fire button doesn't work and the spinfuser fires
constantly.

Anyone else used this mod at all?
 
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:53:58 GMT, "Schrodinger" <no@way.com> wrote:

>It seems that quite a few servers are now running this "anti cheat" mod.
>
>I have installed it as per the instructions, but still keep getting kicked
>after 30 seconds.
>
>I have disabled the scripts I used to use - just in case - although none
>could be considered as cheating - the only one that some might take
>exception to was the "wide sniper" - which I don't use, but from memory
>allowed you to have a small unzoomed view whilst sniping.
>
>Also, when I connect, my fire button doesn't work and the spinfuser fires
>constantly.
>
>Anyone else used this mod at all?
>
>

The only "anti-cheat" I have installed in Defense Turret, which,
unfortunately, some of the servers I like have installed as mandatory.

I find it to be a huge pain as I like to launch from the Classic Only
link, and Defense Turret launches the default Tribes Link. Which means
a lot of stuff gets kind of hosed from the way I like it.

--
--==< S m e g h e a d >==--
 
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"Smeghead" <tribesfan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:53:58 GMT, "Schrodinger" <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>>It seems that quite a few servers are now running this "anti cheat" mod.
>>
>>I have installed it as per the instructions, but still keep getting kicked
>>after 30 seconds.
>>
>>I have disabled the scripts I used to use - just in case - although none
>>could be considered as cheating - the only one that some might take
>>exception to was the "wide sniper" - which I don't use, but from memory
>>allowed you to have a small unzoomed view whilst sniping.
>>
>>Also, when I connect, my fire button doesn't work and the spinfuser fires
>>constantly.
>>
>>Anyone else used this mod at all?
>>
>>
>
> The only "anti-cheat" I have installed in Defense Turret, which,
> unfortunately, some of the servers I like have installed as mandatory.
>
> I find it to be a huge pain as I like to launch from the Classic Only
> link, and Defense Turret launches the default Tribes Link. Which means
> a lot of stuff gets kind of hosed from the way I like it.
>
> --
> --==< S m e g h e a d >==--

What does starting from classic only do?
 
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:50:23 +0000 (UTC), "Adrian Ng"
<spam.ng@btopenworld.com> wrote:

>
>"Smeghead" <tribesfan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:11blu0t8jkrt8abc93ko41g1p9afm56f86@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:53:58 GMT, "Schrodinger" <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>>It seems that quite a few servers are now running this "anti cheat" mod.
>>>
>>>I have installed it as per the instructions, but still keep getting kicked
>>>after 30 seconds.
>>>
>>>I have disabled the scripts I used to use - just in case - although none
>>>could be considered as cheating - the only one that some might take
>>>exception to was the "wide sniper" - which I don't use, but from memory
>>>allowed you to have a small unzoomed view whilst sniping.
>>>
>>>Also, when I connect, my fire button doesn't work and the spinfuser fires
>>>constantly.
>>>
>>>Anyone else used this mod at all?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The only "anti-cheat" I have installed in Defense Turret, which,
>> unfortunately, some of the servers I like have installed as mandatory.
>>
>> I find it to be a huge pain as I like to launch from the Classic Only
>> link, and Defense Turret launches the default Tribes Link. Which means
>> a lot of stuff gets kind of hosed from the way I like it.
>>
>> --
>> --==< S m e g h e a d >==--
>
>What does starting from classic only do?
>
Gets me around the "Your version of Tribes 2 is out of date, but
there are no updates to update Tribes 2 to the latest version" for one
thing.

If I launch DT, I get "In Order to Play Tribes 2 Online, You Must
Launch from the Supplied Shortcuts."

--
--==< S m e g h e a d >==--
 
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"Schrodinger" <no@way.com> wrote in message
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> It seems that quite a few servers are now running this "anti cheat" mod.
>
> I have installed it as per the instructions, but still keep getting kicked
> after 30 seconds.
>
> I have disabled the scripts I used to use - just in case - although none
> could be considered as cheating - the only one that some might take
> exception to was the "wide sniper" - which I don't use, but from memory
> allowed you to have a small unzoomed view whilst sniping.
>
> Also, when I connect, my fire button doesn't work and the spinfuser fires
> constantly.
>
> Anyone else used this mod at all?
>
>
>

Some servers use fox some use last hope.
They aren't compatible.
Hope this helps.
 
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"Smeghead" <tribesfan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:50:23 +0000 (UTC), "Adrian Ng"
> <spam.ng@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Smeghead" <tribesfan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:11blu0t8jkrt8abc93ko41g1p9afm56f86@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:53:58 GMT, "Schrodinger" <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>It seems that quite a few servers are now running this "anti cheat" mod.
>>>>
>>>>I have installed it as per the instructions, but still keep getting
>>>>kicked
>>>>after 30 seconds.
>>>>
>>>>I have disabled the scripts I used to use - just in case - although none
>>>>could be considered as cheating - the only one that some might take
>>>>exception to was the "wide sniper" - which I don't use, but from memory
>>>>allowed you to have a small unzoomed view whilst sniping.
>>>>
>>>>Also, when I connect, my fire button doesn't work and the spinfuser
>>>>fires
>>>>constantly.
>>>>
>>>>Anyone else used this mod at all?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The only "anti-cheat" I have installed in Defense Turret, which,
>>> unfortunately, some of the servers I like have installed as mandatory.
>>>
>>> I find it to be a huge pain as I like to launch from the Classic Only
>>> link, and Defense Turret launches the default Tribes Link. Which means
>>> a lot of stuff gets kind of hosed from the way I like it.
>>>
>>> --
>>> --==< S m e g h e a d >==--
>>
>>What does starting from classic only do?
>>
> Gets me around the "Your version of Tribes 2 is out of date, but
> there are no updates to update Tribes 2 to the latest version" for one
> thing.
>
> If I launch DT, I get "In Order to Play Tribes 2 Online, You Must
> Launch from the Supplied Shortcuts."
>
> --
> --==< S m e g h e a d >==--

Thanks, but I was asking about Tribes 1!
 
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:35:48 GMT, "Schrodinger" <no@way.com> wrote:

>"Smeghead" <tribesfan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:0tplu09au3q6idcl0jras7r000jn682r56@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:50:23 +0000 (UTC), "Adrian Ng"
>> <spam.ng@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Smeghead" <tribesfan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:11blu0t8jkrt8abc93ko41g1p9afm56f86@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:53:58 GMT, "Schrodinger" <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>It seems that quite a few servers are now running this "anti cheat" mod.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have installed it as per the instructions, but still keep getting
>>>>>kicked
>>>>>after 30 seconds.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have disabled the scripts I used to use - just in case - although none
>>>>>could be considered as cheating - the only one that some might take
>>>>>exception to was the "wide sniper" - which I don't use, but from memory
>>>>>allowed you to have a small unzoomed view whilst sniping.
>>>>>
>>>>>Also, when I connect, my fire button doesn't work and the spinfuser
>>>>>fires
>>>>>constantly.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyone else used this mod at all?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The only "anti-cheat" I have installed in Defense Turret, which,
>>>> unfortunately, some of the servers I like have installed as mandatory.
>>>>
>>>> I find it to be a huge pain as I like to launch from the Classic Only
>>>> link, and Defense Turret launches the default Tribes Link. Which means
>>>> a lot of stuff gets kind of hosed from the way I like it.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --==< S m e g h e a d >==--
>>>
>>>What does starting from classic only do?
>>>
>> Gets me around the "Your version of Tribes 2 is out of date, but
>> there are no updates to update Tribes 2 to the latest version" for one
>> thing.
>>
>> If I launch DT, I get "In Order to Play Tribes 2 Online, You Must
>> Launch from the Supplied Shortcuts."
>>
>> --
>> --==< S m e g h e a d >==--
>
>Thanks, but I was asking about Tribes 1!
>

I kinda injected the DT topic on your Fox thread, for that I
apologize. Then I replied to the off topic reply I got and got it
further off topic. For which, I again apologize.

Slightly more on topic; what exploits does T1 have? Only thing I
remember from the time I used to play it was:

Being able to suspend yourself by your head from a beacon to any
ceiling. And...

Being able to jet up through the floor of the floating bases given
enough jet "juice".

To my shame, I did exploit that bug. Once. By flying a scout over to
the enemy base on Scarabrae, getting below their base and thrusting
upwards until I was in their gen room, destroying their gens with
scout rocket fire. Then, rocketing the doorway to prevent repairs.

Those bugs were quickly patched.

So what exploits have the weasels out there discovered in the ensuing
years?

--
--==< S m e g h e a d >==--
 
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"Smeghead" <tribesfan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:35:48 GMT, "Schrodinger" <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>>"Smeghead" <tribesfan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:0tplu09au3q6idcl0jras7r000jn682r56@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:50:23 +0000 (UTC), "Adrian Ng"
>>> <spam.ng@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Smeghead" <tribesfan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:11blu0t8jkrt8abc93ko41g1p9afm56f86@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:53:58 GMT, "Schrodinger" <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>It seems that quite a few servers are now running this "anti cheat"
>>>>>>mod.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have installed it as per the instructions, but still keep getting
>>>>>>kicked
>>>>>>after 30 seconds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have disabled the scripts I used to use - just in case - although
>>>>>>none
>>>>>>could be considered as cheating - the only one that some might take
>>>>>>exception to was the "wide sniper" - which I don't use, but from
>>>>>>memory
>>>>>>allowed you to have a small unzoomed view whilst sniping.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Also, when I connect, my fire button doesn't work and the spinfuser
>>>>>>fires
>>>>>>constantly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anyone else used this mod at all?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The only "anti-cheat" I have installed in Defense Turret, which,
>>>>> unfortunately, some of the servers I like have installed as mandatory.
>>>>>
>>>>> I find it to be a huge pain as I like to launch from the Classic Only
>>>>> link, and Defense Turret launches the default Tribes Link. Which means
>>>>> a lot of stuff gets kind of hosed from the way I like it.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> --==< S m e g h e a d >==--
>>>>
>>>>What does starting from classic only do?
>>>>
>>> Gets me around the "Your version of Tribes 2 is out of date, but
>>> there are no updates to update Tribes 2 to the latest version" for one
>>> thing.
>>>
>>> If I launch DT, I get "In Order to Play Tribes 2 Online, You Must
>>> Launch from the Supplied Shortcuts."
>>>
>>> --
>>> --==< S m e g h e a d >==--
>>
>>Thanks, but I was asking about Tribes 1!
>>
>
> I kinda injected the DT topic on your Fox thread, for that I
> apologize. Then I replied to the off topic reply I got and got it
> further off topic. For which, I again apologize.
>
> Slightly more on topic; what exploits does T1 have? Only thing I
> remember from the time I used to play it was:
>
> Being able to suspend yourself by your head from a beacon to any
> ceiling. And...
>
> Being able to jet up through the floor of the floating bases given
> enough jet "juice".
>
> To my shame, I did exploit that bug. Once. By flying a scout over to
> the enemy base on Scarabrae, getting below their base and thrusting
> upwards until I was in their gen room, destroying their gens with
> scout rocket fire. Then, rocketing the doorway to prevent repairs.
>
> Those bugs were quickly patched.
>
> So what exploits have the weasels out there discovered in the ensuing
> years?
>
> --
> --==< S m e g h e a d >==--

I didn't know there were any - that fox thing seems more like a few busy
bodies trying to scare servers into using their mod. Whilst briefly on the
fox enabled server, I asked if there could be a bug causing my problems and
got flamed for it.
 
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"Smeghead" <tribesfan@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:sosmu09i8vnd8q88dlah99fk42sbc0cre9@4ax.com:

> what exploits does T1 have?

I've never played it, but I recall a "shiva" exploit, and I think T1 had
the original Happy Mod. Plus, if you hit your space bar repeatedly, you can
do this cheat called "skiing" that exploits a bug in the engine physics. 😉
(Demonstrating that "cheating" is in the eye of the beholder.)
 
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:58:54 GMT, "Schrodinger" <no@way.com> wrote:

>"Smeghead" <tribesfan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:sosmu09i8vnd8q88dlah99fk42sbc0cre9@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:35:48 GMT, "Schrodinger" <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Smeghead" <tribesfan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:0tplu09au3q6idcl0jras7r000jn682r56@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:50:23 +0000 (UTC), "Adrian Ng"
>>>> <spam.ng@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Smeghead" <tribesfan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:11blu0t8jkrt8abc93ko41g1p9afm56f86@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:53:58 GMT, "Schrodinger" <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It seems that quite a few servers are now running this "anti cheat"
>>>>>>>mod.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have installed it as per the instructions, but still keep getting
>>>>>>>kicked
>>>>>>>after 30 seconds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have disabled the scripts I used to use - just in case - although
>>>>>>>none
>>>>>>>could be considered as cheating - the only one that some might take
>>>>>>>exception to was the "wide sniper" - which I don't use, but from
>>>>>>>memory
>>>>>>>allowed you to have a small unzoomed view whilst sniping.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Also, when I connect, my fire button doesn't work and the spinfuser
>>>>>>>fires
>>>>>>>constantly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Anyone else used this mod at all?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only "anti-cheat" I have installed in Defense Turret, which,
>>>>>> unfortunately, some of the servers I like have installed as mandatory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I find it to be a huge pain as I like to launch from the Classic Only
>>>>>> link, and Defense Turret launches the default Tribes Link. Which means
>>>>>> a lot of stuff gets kind of hosed from the way I like it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> --==< S m e g h e a d >==--
>>>>>
>>>>>What does starting from classic only do?
>>>>>
>>>> Gets me around the "Your version of Tribes 2 is out of date, but
>>>> there are no updates to update Tribes 2 to the latest version" for one
>>>> thing.
>>>>
>>>> If I launch DT, I get "In Order to Play Tribes 2 Online, You Must
>>>> Launch from the Supplied Shortcuts."
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --==< S m e g h e a d >==--
>>>
>>>Thanks, but I was asking about Tribes 1!
>>>
>>
>> I kinda injected the DT topic on your Fox thread, for that I
>> apologize. Then I replied to the off topic reply I got and got it
>> further off topic. For which, I again apologize.
>>
>> Slightly more on topic; what exploits does T1 have? Only thing I
>> remember from the time I used to play it was:
>>
>> Being able to suspend yourself by your head from a beacon to any
>> ceiling. And...
>>
>> Being able to jet up through the floor of the floating bases given
>> enough jet "juice".
>>
>> To my shame, I did exploit that bug. Once. By flying a scout over to
>> the enemy base on Scarabrae, getting below their base and thrusting
>> upwards until I was in their gen room, destroying their gens with
>> scout rocket fire. Then, rocketing the doorway to prevent repairs.
>>
>> Those bugs were quickly patched.
>>
>> So what exploits have the weasels out there discovered in the ensuing
>> years?
>>
>> --
>> --==< S m e g h e a d >==--
>
>I didn't know there were any - that fox thing seems more like a few busy
>bodies trying to scare servers into using their mod. Whilst briefly on the
>fox enabled server, I asked if there could be a bug causing my problems and
>got flamed for it.
>

Typical. I really do hate anything that gets in the way of the game
itself. And these Defense Turrets and Foxes due just that.

Honestly, I have never used any scripts other than a ski script in T1.
My brother, known as u238|Janxx at the time, was a script hound. He
had what seemed like an endless myriad of scripts.

On reflection, I take that back. I did use one other script beside the
ski script... I used the fast faves deal that allowed you to pick your
faves before going into a station, bought your junk, spun you 180° and
chucked out 3 repair packs on the floor in front of you. All in the
blink of an eye.

Other than that, I was plain jane vanilla. Which is how I am in T2.
Other than 2 of DeBig's scripts; Tapthrow and Localtaunt. Tapthrow is
awesome in classic. A necessity, really. And Localtaunt is just fun.
You're not cluttering things globally with audio spam, but the little
pose, jig, verbal smack is hilarious at times.

No whacky-colored mortar explosions; movie clip voice packs; crazy
reticles; enhanced FoF indicators and all that jazz. I like it clean
as possible.

And I don't like having to use someone's 3rd party check-bot to play.

--
--==< S m e g h e a d >==--
 
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On 18 Jan 2005 20:33:35 GMT, DEbig3 <debig3@yahoo.com> wrote:

<Snipping Jesus>

>>> I still remember the first time I saw someone ski. It was on... not
>>> Snowblind... the other one with two large bases in a large, long
>>> valley... a field of boulders between... sloped-front bases. Two Elf
>>> Turrets on either side of the flagstand, which was out in the open on
>>> the roof... geez! What is that map?!

<Savior Clipping>

>>> Still can't remember the name of the map. Also happens to be the first
>>> map in rotation when I logged in for the very first time.
>>>
>>> --
>>> --==< S m e g h e a d >==--
>>
>> I know the map you mean - haven't seen it played in ages. Funnily
>> enough, that was the first map I ever played on <sigh>
>>
>> Anyway, I'm going to have to delete T1, do a clean install and then put
>> this Fox bullsh1t on so I can still play. This game still feels great
>> after - what is it now, 5 1/2 years?
>>
>>
>>
>
>iceridge.

THANK YOU! You da man!

--
--==< S m e g h e a d >==--
 
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<snip>
>>>>> --
>>>>> --==< S m e g h e a d >==--
>>>>
>>>> I know the map you mean - haven't seen it played in ages. Funnily
>>>> enough, that was the first map I ever played on <sigh>
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I'm going to have to delete T1, do a clean install and then
>>>> put this Fox bullsh1t on so I can still play. This game still feels
>>>> great after - what is it now, 5 1/2 years?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> iceridge.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Adept
>>
>> He shoots. He scores. Anyway, I tried your bit on planettribes or
>> whatever it's called and just got 404s all over the shop.
>>
>>
>>
>
> i have something on planettribes?
>
> --
> Adept

http://scripts.tribalwar.com/debig3/ ?
 
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"Schrodinger" <no@way.com> wrote in message
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> <snip>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> --==< S m e g h e a d >==--
>>>>>
>>>>> I know the map you mean - haven't seen it played in ages. Funnily
>>>>> enough, that was the first map I ever played on <sigh>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, I'm going to have to delete T1, do a clean install and then
>>>>> put this Fox bullsh1t on so I can still play. This game still feels
>>>>> great after - what is it now, 5 1/2 years?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> iceridge.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Adept
>>>
>>> He shoots. He scores. Anyway, I tried your bit on planettribes or
>>> whatever it's called and just got 404s all over the shop.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> i have something on planettribes?
>>
>> --
>> Adept
>
> http://scripts.tribalwar.com/debig3/ ?
>

:O
 
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One day, while skipping through the forest, I heard the voice of
"Schrodinger" <no@way.com> coming from a tree, and thought, "Man, this is
f*ed up," but carried on the following conversation anyway:

> <snip>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> --==< S m e g h e a d >==--
>>>>>
>>>>> I know the map you mean - haven't seen it played in ages. Funnily
>>>>> enough, that was the first map I ever played on <sigh>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, I'm going to have to delete T1, do a clean install and then
>>>>> put this Fox bullsh1t on so I can still play. This game still feels
>>>>> great after - what is it now, 5 1/2 years?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> iceridge.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Adept
>>>
>>> He shoots. He scores. Anyway, I tried your bit on planettribes or
>>> whatever it's called and just got 404s all over the shop.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> i have something on planettribes?
>>
>> --
>> Adept
>
> http://scripts.tribalwar.com/debig3/ ?
>
>

yea, i noticed that awhile ago. it just stopped worked at some point, and i
havent bothered fixing it

--
Adept