The 3rd Presidential Debate

[chunkymonster]

And since the mid '80's, DoD has ordered over 400,000 M9 bayonets to replace the older M7's.

Where do get your information from some right wing newspaper online.

Actually Marv, being DoD, the information is readily available through a google search. And, not to dispute what jsc wrote but to reinforce/add to it, from my quick search, I put the total DoD order at over 500,000 M9 bayonets since it was adopted in 1984.

 

[wanamingo]

Im not really sure how you came to the conclusion that there was 1 terrorist attack under Bush....

I can think of several off the top of my head. 9/11 - Cole bombing - Karachi consulate attacked - Several diplomats killed in gaza....

 

[wanamingo]

My bad you are correct. But there was definitely more than 9/11.... There were several diplomats killed under bush.

 

[johnsonma]

My bad you are correct. But there was definitely more than 9/11.... There were several diplomats killed under bush.

Those are not THE FACTS! 😀

 

[chunkymonster]

The number of publicized and documented cases of both domestic and foreign terrorist attacks under these Presidents;

Clinton - 6 in eight years
Bush - 17 in eight years
Obama - 10 in less than four years

I'm not really sure how you came to the conclusion that there was 1 terrorist attack under Bush....

I can think of several off the top of my head. 9/11 - Cole bombing - Karachi consulate attacked - Several diplomats killed in gaza....

The Cole Bombing took place October 2000, Clinton was still president.

Admittedly, my first set of number were after an all too quick search in order to post a response. After spending some moments trying to find a definitive answer, the level of partisan reporting in both conservative and liberal media makes it difficult to get an accurate count of attacks. There is a tremendous difference in the count given what is defined as a "terrorist attack". For example, if you count only Islamic terrorist attacks that took place against the West excluding foiled attacks, honor killings, and etc, then you get results found here, "Islamic terror attacks on the West". However, if you don't pay attention to dates, you end up with info like this, "Terrorist Attacks and Presidents"

So, with that said, I revise the above numbers, bolded in the quote above and in the original post are based on the the following link, which I have found to be the most reasonable and within context of Islamic terrorist attacks directly against America and/or within the United States, "Terrorist Attacks in the U.S. or Against Americans".

See mingo, if I'm wrong I'll admit it and post a correction...

 

[wanamingo]

“Logic is the beginning of wisdom, not the end.”

-Spock-

 

[riser]

Clinton had 7 "major" attacks.
Bush had more because "terrorist" attacks were broadly used. We had 9/11, a couple embassy attacks... What else? I don't count foreign military establishments as terrorist attacks to be honest. Attacks against unarmed people would be a terrorist attack.

Ft. Hood in my opinion should be labeled a terrorist attack as it was conducted against unarmed people, both civilians and military.

Attacks against an Embassy, yes. Libya, yes.

Overall, I think Bush had less "major" due to the fact that he didn't give lip service like Clinton and Obama.

 

[musical marv]

GI Bill is alive and well.

The]http://www.gibill.va.gov/

The GI Bill is still in play in the government.Many soldiers including myself took advantage of this bill during the Vietnam War was over.

 

[musical marv]

Clinton had 7 "major" attacks.
Bush had more because "terrorist" attacks were broadly used. We had 9/11, a couple embassy attacks... What else? I don't count foreign military establishments as terrorist attacks to be honest. Attacks against unarmed people would be a terrorist attack.

Ft. Hood in my opinion should be labeled a terrorist attack as it was conducted against unarmed people, both civilians and military.

Attacks against an Embassy, yes. Libya, yes.

Overall, I think Bush had less "major" due to the fact that he didn't give lip service like Clinton and Obama.

Bush was a puppet to Cheney that was all he was in his presidency beside being a total moron .

 

[fazers_on_stun]

Actually Marv, being DoD, the information is readily available through a google search. And, not to dispute what jsc wrote but to reinforce/add to it, from my quick search, I put the total DoD order at over 500,000 M9 bayonets since it was adopted in 1984.

From Foxnews fact-checkers right after the debate, I heard 520,000 bayonets currently distributed to the military.

Personally, given Obummer's reference to horses, I'd bet he meant 'sabers' or 'swords' in lieu of bayonets. Of course the military still uses ceremonial swords as well - my brother had my Dad's mounted on his study wall. But Obummer really mixed up his metaphors - AFAIK, the Navy never deployed horses at sea 😛..

Of course, what can you expect from a community organizer with 4 years extra-credit training on how to take expensive vacations, comedy shows and golfing expeditions all at the taxpayer's expense? I read somewhere that Obummer holds the presidential record for vacation time taken - maybe if he had paid attention to his job once in a while, he could have done several of those things he promised the American people he would do during his first and hopefully last term in office..

 

[wanamingo]

I cant believe you guys are still on the bayonets thing....

 

[johnsonma]

Fox actually used fact checkers for the bayonets.....LOL. Must not have anything else to do.

 

[johnsonma]

Of course, what can you expect from a community organizer with 4 years extra-credit training on how to take expensive vacations, comedy shows and golfing expeditions all at the taxpayer's expense? I read somewhere that Obummer holds the presidential record for vacation time taken - maybe if he had paid attention to his job once in a while, he could have done several of those things he promised the American people he would do during his first and hopefully last term in office..

Complete and utter lie.......

A direct comparison places Obama squarely on middle ground of presidential vacation days used. Of the past five presidents, during their first year in office, only two, Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton took less time off than Obama. Ronald Reagan, George HW Bush and his son all spent much more time away from the White House than the current occupant. Obama’s retreat to Martha’s Vinyard in August 2011 sparked a particularly high number of criticisms, however at that point in his presidency he had only taken a total of 61 days off. Compared to that same time in office Ronald Reagan had spent 112 days on vacation and George W Bush had been away for a total of 180 days. Bill Clinton, at 28 days, had the least time off of recent presidents. Reagan held the total vacation day record of 436 until the younger Bush left office with a grand total of 977 days away from Washington, representing 1/3 of his presidency.

 

[wanamingo]

God Dammit Johnson quit bringing logic to a crazy fight.

 

[johnsonma]

God Dammit Johnson quit bringing logic to a crazy fight.

I'm a rebel.....

 

[ctbaars]

The whole vacation thing is bogus. Presidents are president 24-7. You give up your life for your country. As an aside; it's reported that Obama actually doesn't like Camp David much.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Yea, even when talking to school children youre pres, and expected to act so, like not alarming anyone.
No mention of the video?
How strange, since that and that alone was the widest and most used by this admin since shovel ready

 

[musical marv]

I cant believe you guys are still on the bayonets thing....

I guess nothing else to discuss.

 

[musical marv]

The whole vacation thing is bogus. Presidents are president 24-7. You give up your life for your country. As an aside; it's reported that Obama actually doesn't like Camp David much.

How do you this have you been with Obama lately? Romney 24-7 that is a joke with his foreign policies.GOD FORBID he elects Bolton we are all on trouble as Secretary of State.

 

[ctbaars]

I think John Bolton is one cool dude. His honesty and forthrightness is refreshing.

 

[musical marv]

I think John Bolton is one cool dude. His honesty and forthrightness is refreshing.

I guess you like war hawks if you like Bolton.he is perfect for another hawk Romney.

 

[riser]

We can simply solve the debate on how Obama has done.

Are you better off today than 4 years ago?

I am not.

 

[chunkymonster]

Recent articles have stated that the average middle class income has been reduced by 40%, the lowest since 1995, and blame Obama's fiscal policies for the reduction and poor economic growth.

With this in mind, I would encourage everyone to visit the Social Security Administration's website (www.ssa.gov) and create an account to view their income history.

My income has been reduced by over $4000 since 2009. I made $300 less in 2011 than what I made in 2008.

We can simply solve the debate on how Obama has done.

Are you better off today than 4 years ago?

I am not.

I definitely am not!

I simply can not afford four more years of Obama.

 

[musical marv]

We can simply solve the debate on how Obama has done.

Are you better off today than 4 years ago?

I am not.

You are a citizen of Australia not the states. Romney will lead this country into a disaster if this turd is elected by the people.Gimme a break what you are stating here.

 

[chunkymonster]

You are a citizen of Australia not the states. Obama [strike]Romney[/strike] will lead this country into being the next Greece [strike]a disaster[/strike] if this anti-colonialist-social-democrat [strike]turd[/strike] is elected again by the libtards and progressives [strike]people[/strike]. Gimme a break what you are stating here.

There you go Marv, I corrected your statement for you...