To sum up: Factually incorrect, intellectually incoherent and wholly disingenuous.
I believe the author has a great future ahead of him in politics.
I believe the author has a great future ahead of him in politics.
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[citation][nom]Nikki18[/nom]Everyone comparing Macbook Pros to HP's and Dell's are forgetting the fact that:1. HP and Dell are the shoddiest, cheapest, poorest manufacturers on the planet.2. The Mac is much thinner, which raises the cost.3. Vista is crap and XP is obsolete.[/citation]
I do have to agree with your first and second statement but I do not completely agree with your third statement.
Yes, Vista, for how much they charge for it and what makes up Vista, is pretty much garbage but XP is not obsolete.
The differences between XP and Vista are truly minute. About 90% of what is in Vista is already in XP which, in my opinion, is why MS has not dropped the price on XP Pro at all since the launch of Vista.
I do have to agree with your first and second statement but I do not completely agree with your third statement.
Yes, Vista, for how much they charge for it and what makes up Vista, is pretty much garbage but XP is not obsolete.
The differences between XP and Vista are truly minute. About 90% of what is in Vista is already in XP which, in my opinion, is why MS has not dropped the price on XP Pro at all since the launch of Vista.
[citation][nom]Jonamac[/nom]Here you have it. All these comments confirm why so many myths continue to abound about Macs. The anti-Apple-Taliban are so ridiculously dismissive that they have blinded themselves.[/citation]
1) Hey if you want to buy a computer with a homosexual logo then get ass-raped on the price....be my guest maybe you like that.
2)"The anti-Apple-Taliban" as you call it are not the ones brainwashing people into buying same quality components as pc for (at time)double the price
3)Apple has made some decent products but the fact that an I pod touch comes with 8/16/32 gigs and apple charges 299/399/499 is very unappealing. SO if you want to buy this hand held ego masturbation tool to show of to your friend by all means go ahead.
I do not have a problem with he hardware ( because it is PC hardware) I have a problem with the Apple policy and practices. Also Apple appears to be very popular in the gay community and I think pretty soon it will be synonymous with that community.
1) Hey if you want to buy a computer with a homosexual logo then get ass-raped on the price....be my guest maybe you like that.
2)"The anti-Apple-Taliban" as you call it are not the ones brainwashing people into buying same quality components as pc for (at time)double the price
3)Apple has made some decent products but the fact that an I pod touch comes with 8/16/32 gigs and apple charges 299/399/499 is very unappealing. SO if you want to buy this hand held ego masturbation tool to show of to your friend by all means go ahead.
I do not have a problem with he hardware ( because it is PC hardware) I have a problem with the Apple policy and practices. Also Apple appears to be very popular in the gay community and I think pretty soon it will be synonymous with that community.
I think Tuan answered a different question than his article set out to do. It's effectively more, "Can you build/buy a cheaper PC with the same components as a Mac, as long as you stick to Mac base configurations?" His answer is may be but not by much.
But that does not answer whether Macs are overpriced or not. Do I consider a Voodoo laptop or a Dell XPS PC overpriced? Sure I do. You can get 80% of its performance for a quarter of the price. You don't have to pay for style points either. It's like asking if a Ferrari is overpriced compared to a Lamborghini. Both are. And both are overpriced compared to a Camry. Especially for most users the Mac are marketed to, that means overpriced even prior to the rip-off of upgrades. Most of Mac buyers probably would be fine with the 80% performance point. But there's budget option in the Mac line-up.
Reverse the problem: Find a Mac equivalent to the $600 Dell 530 desktop with 3GB DDR2, Q6600, 500 Gb HD, 8600 GT 256 Mb, Wifi, card reader, IEEE, Vista home premium, 5.1 audio I got 2 months ago. I do video editing and encoding, photoshop, 3D and online games, etc. with it. Could I get better performance? Could it be more stylish? Sure could on both counts but this computer would also do the job for 90% of computer buyers. Macs effectively force its customers to overpay for performance and style they don't really need, at least not at that price premium. To me that makes them overpriced.
But that does not answer whether Macs are overpriced or not. Do I consider a Voodoo laptop or a Dell XPS PC overpriced? Sure I do. You can get 80% of its performance for a quarter of the price. You don't have to pay for style points either. It's like asking if a Ferrari is overpriced compared to a Lamborghini. Both are. And both are overpriced compared to a Camry. Especially for most users the Mac are marketed to, that means overpriced even prior to the rip-off of upgrades. Most of Mac buyers probably would be fine with the 80% performance point. But there's budget option in the Mac line-up.
Reverse the problem: Find a Mac equivalent to the $600 Dell 530 desktop with 3GB DDR2, Q6600, 500 Gb HD, 8600 GT 256 Mb, Wifi, card reader, IEEE, Vista home premium, 5.1 audio I got 2 months ago. I do video editing and encoding, photoshop, 3D and online games, etc. with it. Could I get better performance? Could it be more stylish? Sure could on both counts but this computer would also do the job for 90% of computer buyers. Macs effectively force its customers to overpay for performance and style they don't really need, at least not at that price premium. To me that makes them overpriced.
[citation][nom]RobWright[/nom]Rabid over Apple? Huh. I must have missed the company memo. ScotterMonkey, you claim a loss of objectivity here, but I wonder if you and others read the full article, specifically the part where Tuan chastizes Apple for its hardware upgrade pricing and severely limited hardware options. When highlighting OS X, he also makes a point to praise Vista (Vista!). I consider that to be pretty balanced and objective. I think some folks are getting carried away, jumping to conclusions and getting a little defensive. I know we're Tom's Hardware. I know you're all PC enthusiasts. But the Mac-hating here is little over-the-top. The mere act and perceived offense of writing about Apple on this site has sent some of you into a rage to the point where you're ready to burn the author at the stake. [/citation]
I have to agree with what rob said... partially. I'm not sure if someone mentioned this in the previous 462 pages of comments, but isn't it a little foolish to write an article clearly praising Apple (I'm not saying that's wrong) and post it on a website in which 95% of its readers are hardcore Window's PC users? It's like going to ps3 fanboy and trying to write an article praising how great the Wii is. Sure, you MIGHT get a handful of people to open their eyes, but chances are, you
're just going to anger the vast majority of the audience.
I believe that if this article is going to be written, it needs to be done in a way that is fool-proof and filled with facts. The problem is (and always will be) there is no competition in the OSX world, while that is what Windows PCs strive on... so differences in price.
I have to agree with what rob said... partially. I'm not sure if someone mentioned this in the previous 462 pages of comments, but isn't it a little foolish to write an article clearly praising Apple (I'm not saying that's wrong) and post it on a website in which 95% of its readers are hardcore Window's PC users? It's like going to ps3 fanboy and trying to write an article praising how great the Wii is. Sure, you MIGHT get a handful of people to open their eyes, but chances are, you
're just going to anger the vast majority of the audience.
I believe that if this article is going to be written, it needs to be done in a way that is fool-proof and filled with facts. The problem is (and always will be) there is no competition in the OSX world, while that is what Windows PCs strive on... so differences in price.
It's hard to know how to respond to this piece, but I think to author is making the wrong argument. I do tech support for a small community college and we have both Macs and PCs. Currently they're fairly close in real-world performance, but it's only recently that I've been able to say that with a straight face.
We used to pay a pretty hefty premium on the Macs to get anywhere near the same level of performance that we expected from our base-level PCs. It varied over the years, but for a while was averaging around $700-$800 more for the Macs. That was actually an improvement, since it had originally been more than a thousand dollars more per machine.
I can't quote you benchmarks or specific hardware configurations this long after the fact, but in most cases the complaints about slow or underpowered Macs came from the Mac users themselves. The comparisons they made were generally with the PCs sitting side by side with the Macs and running the same applications. A few of them had much higher-end Macs at home and were unhappy that we couldn't offer them the same models at work, but the price difference was just too high for us, budgets being what they were. In any case, there was definitely a performance difference for a very long time at the price point that we purchased machines at, even factoring in educational discounts, state purchase agreements and the like.
I'm not a big fan of Apple in general or Macs in particular, but they definitely have some good points and are much better than they used to be. They will probably always be difficult for me to support in our mixed environment, but I think that is largely because of deliberate design choices that Apple makes. I've never found their hardware terribly compelling, so on the whole I probably agree with the people who think Apple should drop the proprietary hardware (which has become less of an issue over time anyway) and concentrate on their OS. I'd like to see their OS become platform independent and provide a legitimate alternative to Microsoft and the various flavors of Unix/Linux.
We used to pay a pretty hefty premium on the Macs to get anywhere near the same level of performance that we expected from our base-level PCs. It varied over the years, but for a while was averaging around $700-$800 more for the Macs. That was actually an improvement, since it had originally been more than a thousand dollars more per machine.
I can't quote you benchmarks or specific hardware configurations this long after the fact, but in most cases the complaints about slow or underpowered Macs came from the Mac users themselves. The comparisons they made were generally with the PCs sitting side by side with the Macs and running the same applications. A few of them had much higher-end Macs at home and were unhappy that we couldn't offer them the same models at work, but the price difference was just too high for us, budgets being what they were. In any case, there was definitely a performance difference for a very long time at the price point that we purchased machines at, even factoring in educational discounts, state purchase agreements and the like.
I'm not a big fan of Apple in general or Macs in particular, but they definitely have some good points and are much better than they used to be. They will probably always be difficult for me to support in our mixed environment, but I think that is largely because of deliberate design choices that Apple makes. I've never found their hardware terribly compelling, so on the whole I probably agree with the people who think Apple should drop the proprietary hardware (which has become less of an issue over time anyway) and concentrate on their OS. I'd like to see their OS become platform independent and provide a legitimate alternative to Microsoft and the various flavors of Unix/Linux.
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All one has to do is read this thread and see why Microsoft PC buyers are completely retarded (homosexual logo, oh brother what a turd) -- but hey, keep buying those junk PC's and enjoy your misery.
Oh if you want to play games on a Mac it's called Boot Camp you morons.
You buy Mac memory from NewEgg for same prices as PC memory only fully buffered with ECC so you cut down on RAM errors.
You add the same $70 500GB drive to any MacPro just as you can with a PC.
You have options for ATI and nVidia graphics cards when you order your MacPro.
You get a 8 core (two quad Intel processors). You get an Intel motherboard, and you get a extremely well designed and thought out case with a wispher quiet PC (important when you work with Professional level audio/video).
But I'm sure all you chimers know all this, cause you own a MacPro right?? It's always the same here, bunch of retarded people posting on a subject they have ZERO experience in.
Yes a MacPro can play games, very well, it's called Boot Camp and you load the OS of your choice XP, Vista, etc. and go play. So will you retards please STOP commenting on something you have NO f'in experience with.
Oh if you want to play games on a Mac it's called Boot Camp you morons.
You buy Mac memory from NewEgg for same prices as PC memory only fully buffered with ECC so you cut down on RAM errors.
You add the same $70 500GB drive to any MacPro just as you can with a PC.
You have options for ATI and nVidia graphics cards when you order your MacPro.
You get a 8 core (two quad Intel processors). You get an Intel motherboard, and you get a extremely well designed and thought out case with a wispher quiet PC (important when you work with Professional level audio/video).
But I'm sure all you chimers know all this, cause you own a MacPro right?? It's always the same here, bunch of retarded people posting on a subject they have ZERO experience in.
Yes a MacPro can play games, very well, it's called Boot Camp and you load the OS of your choice XP, Vista, etc. and go play. So will you retards please STOP commenting on something you have NO f'in experience with.
[citation][nom]Jon Tseng[/nom]Aside from factual inaccuracies (GPU memory et al), this article is basing its argument on a false comparison which is logically incorrect.--------Looking firstly at the laptop comparison😛roposition 1: Apple product is same price/lower price than XPS/OmenProposition 2: XPS/Omen are representative of PCs as a whole.Conclusion (and I quote): "Macs aren?t "way more" expensive than PCs."Proposition 2 is clearly erroneous.--------Alternatively you can restate it asProposition 1: Apple isn't more expensive than XPS/Omen.Proposition 2: XPS/Omen are aren't more expensive than PCs as a whole.Conclusion: Apple isn't more expensive than PCs as a whole.Again, position 2 is clearly erroneous.--------Turning to the desktop comparison the logical fallacies are not as egregious but still present😛roposition 1: The Mac Pro is the same price as the custom build.Proposition 2 (and I quote): The custom build "is essentially a baseline Mac Pro replicated using the cheapest minimum required components to build".Conclusion: Macs are not more expensive than PCs.Proposition 2 is a falsehood, IMHO (unless someone can demonstrate that a $320 PSU counts as "the cheapest minimum required").--------Actually apart from that the desktop argument is logically consistent. However in following pages the author builds on this comparison and there is an implicit fallacy😛roposition 1: Mac Pro is is the same price as the custom build.Proposition 2: I choose to discount alternative models where a mac hardware is more expensive than a similarly specced custom build.Conclusion: Mac hardware is not more expensive than PC hardware.--------As a general note to the editor, this article (following so soon after the SSD debacle) has severely damaged my confidence in this site. To sum up😛roposition 1: I read articles on Toms Hardware because I want information ("tell me something I didn't know") and insight ("explain something I couldn't have figured out myself").Proposition 2: Recent articles on Toms Hardware (this one and the SSD debacle earlier) display neither of these. In fact they misinform and display clear logical errors.Conclusion: Why should I read Toms Hardware.Kind regardsJonathan[/citation]
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[citation][nom]V8VENOM[/nom]Oh if you want to play games on a Mac it's called Boot Camp you morons. [/citation]
Damn you must be rich, You bought a MacPro and Windows?
[citation][nom]V8VENOM[/nom]Oh if you want to play games on a Mac it's called Boot Camp you morons. [/citation]
Damn you must be rich, You threw out the $40 video card on your MacPro and bought another one?
[citation][nom]V8VENOM[/nom]
Oh if you want to play games on a Mac it's called Boot Camp you morons.
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No its not called Boot Camp moron, its called Money.
[citation][nom]V8VENOM[/nom]
and you get a extremely well designed and thought out case with a wispher quiet PC (important when you work with Professional level audio/video).
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Yeah...wow been doing this pro level audio/video stuff you know, with my $40 vid card and ma ac97 chip. totally dude! and i'm so using 800 iee1394, cos my pro Canon 5D SLR has only firewire on it you know. (ok, you're not probably going to get that, since i doubt you have ever seen any "pro level" studio, the Canon does not even have firewire, actually come to think of it, which pro SLR >$2k has a firewire port on it?)
[citation][nom]V8VENOM[/nom]STOP commenting on something you have NO f'in experience with. [/citation]
Yup, can you hear it
hahahahaha
Better luck next time young warrior. You are playing with the big boys now.
Damn you must be rich, You bought a MacPro and Windows?
[citation][nom]V8VENOM[/nom]Oh if you want to play games on a Mac it's called Boot Camp you morons. [/citation]
Damn you must be rich, You threw out the $40 video card on your MacPro and bought another one?
[citation][nom]V8VENOM[/nom]
Oh if you want to play games on a Mac it's called Boot Camp you morons.
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No its not called Boot Camp moron, its called Money.
[citation][nom]V8VENOM[/nom]
and you get a extremely well designed and thought out case with a wispher quiet PC (important when you work with Professional level audio/video).
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Yeah...wow been doing this pro level audio/video stuff you know, with my $40 vid card and ma ac97 chip. totally dude! and i'm so using 800 iee1394, cos my pro Canon 5D SLR has only firewire on it you know. (ok, you're not probably going to get that, since i doubt you have ever seen any "pro level" studio, the Canon does not even have firewire, actually come to think of it, which pro SLR >$2k has a firewire port on it?)
[citation][nom]V8VENOM[/nom]STOP commenting on something you have NO f'in experience with. [/citation]
Yup, can you hear it
hahahahahaBetter luck next time young warrior. You are playing with the big boys now.
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[citation][nom]V8VENOM[/nom]You have options for ATI and nVidia graphics cards when you order your MacPro.
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I can't believe you said that with a straight face. Several different versions of a 2600XT and one version of the 8800GT?
If you weren't so obviously ignorant, I would accuse you of joking. Sadly, it appears you've drunk the cool-aid long enough to believe a Pentium III (2600XT) or Pentium 4 (8800GT) can compare to a Core 2 Quad (HD4870)
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I can't believe you said that with a straight face. Several different versions of a 2600XT and one version of the 8800GT?
If you weren't so obviously ignorant, I would accuse you of joking. Sadly, it appears you've drunk the cool-aid long enough to believe a Pentium III (2600XT) or Pentium 4 (8800GT) can compare to a Core 2 Quad (HD4870)
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=12590
this would tend to disagree with the assertions made in this article. obviously though identical hardware should cost the same, thing is why buy more than you need? I do everything on my Windows machine (including 1280x1024 crysis gaming) and have yet to spend more than a grand at a time.....
i think this might be my first post since joining this site years ago.
this would tend to disagree with the assertions made in this article. obviously though identical hardware should cost the same, thing is why buy more than you need? I do everything on my Windows machine (including 1280x1024 crysis gaming) and have yet to spend more than a grand at a time.....
i think this might be my first post since joining this site years ago.
[citation][nom]bardia[/nom]I can't believe you said that with a straight face. Several different versions of a 2600XT and one version of the 8800GT? If you weren't so obviously ignorant, I would accuse you of joking. Sadly, it appears you've drunk the cool-aid long enough to believe a Pentium III (2600XT) or Pentium 4 (8800GT) can compare to a Core 2 Quad (HD4870)[/citation]
WATCH OUT!
That upgrade from a 2600XT (a 50$ or so card) costs A WHOOPING 150$ more!
So they value the 8800GT at $200 eh? I thought newegg had them from MIR 129.99
WATCH OUT!
That upgrade from a 2600XT (a 50$ or so card) costs A WHOOPING 150$ more!
So they value the 8800GT at $200 eh? I thought newegg had them from MIR 129.99
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[citation][nom]gxsolace[/nom]http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2816Anand's version of the PC / Mac comparison.[/citation]
Didn't see any none mac on that article. Only Power Mac vs Intel Mac. They did what Tom's should have done in the first place, and they didn't even try to proselyting anybody to covert.
Didn't see any none mac on that article. Only Power Mac vs Intel Mac. They did what Tom's should have done in the first place, and they didn't even try to proselyting anybody to covert.
I believe Mac Pro is fairly priced. To build a equiv PC would cost very close to Mac Pro (because 2x 2.83ghz Socket 771 Xeons costs $1400, and a Dual Socket 771 Mobo costs around $400. Add the rest of components and it will be around $2500+ before shipping... I think a 10% premium isn't bad at all for a preassembled computer.
Also, MacBook Pro was a very good deal for a while because it offered one of the best 15.4inch screens, was very light and thin, and actually high end-spec'ed at its time (when it came out, and after the first major refresh).
I personally would not buy a MacBook Pro or Mac Pro because they are not the best value *for me*. A ThinkPad with similiar specs to MBP now can be had for $1300; and I won't need a 8-core setup until it becomes mainstream.
Rather save money for my other hobbies.. photography and audio
Also, MacBook Pro was a very good deal for a while because it offered one of the best 15.4inch screens, was very light and thin, and actually high end-spec'ed at its time (when it came out, and after the first major refresh).
I personally would not buy a MacBook Pro or Mac Pro because they are not the best value *for me*. A ThinkPad with similiar specs to MBP now can be had for $1300; and I won't need a 8-core setup until it becomes mainstream.
Rather save money for my other hobbies.. photography and audio
Just the fact that he had to write another incredibly biased article full of factual inaccuracies to defend the previous article of the same is far more childish than any comments that have been made on here. He is entitled to his opinion of course, but why is it being hosted HERE? Does anyone come here to look at new tech and price hardware deals to upgrade their Mac?
Also, anyone who hasn't given Vista (SP1) a fair shake with their own hands is missing out. It runs smooth as butter on new hardware. I wouldn't suggest upgrading an older PC with it, though. I think that's where people end up with a bad taste in their mouths, because their old rig just isn't up to the task. I can understand that.
Also, anyone who hasn't given Vista (SP1) a fair shake with their own hands is missing out. It runs smooth as butter on new hardware. I wouldn't suggest upgrading an older PC with it, though. I think that's where people end up with a bad taste in their mouths, because their old rig just isn't up to the task. I can understand that.
[citation][nom]V8VENOM[/nom]All one has to do is read this thread and see why Microsoft PC buyers are completely retarded (homosexual logo, oh brother what a turd) -- but hey, keep buying those junk PC's and enjoy your misery. [/citation]
If any us were in misery using our comps, perhaps we would have switch to Apple. But it seems to me the only people that are in misery using windows are the fools that don't know what they are doing. (Yes I am calling you a fool.) One mouse button, that to me is misery.
Furthermore, those Junk PCs you speak of are made from the same hardware that your MAC now runs. If the PC is in fact junk, perhaps you can explain the strategy behind Apple abandoning their micro architecture and jumping all over Intel's phallus?
And please, Microsoft's homosexual logo? Must I remind you of the multicolored apple yalls used to sponsor? Looked like a flag from a Gay pride parade.
Although, that is beside the point, because this article, and this thread are about the hardware. Microsoft has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. Just because I own a "PC" does not mean that I run Windows. But I am sure you have lots of experience with Linux and I don't need to reiterate this point.
[citation][nom]V8VENOM[/nom]Oh if you want to play games on a Mac it's called Boot Camp you morons.[/citation]
Or i could play games on my PC with my more powerful hardware that I bought at a discount over the Apple hardware. Then if i feel the need, i can boot OSX on my PC using GRUB. But no, we have no experience with such things...
I for one do not care about MACs or Mac OS. If you want to use it great! Good for you. What riled me up about this article is the blatant lack of factual evidence to support some of the authors egregious claims. I would have been equally irritated if the article had been slanderous to MACs. The picture of the two laptops talking to each other on the first page is a perfect example of how the author let the his personal feelings dictate the tone of the article.
We, as posters on some random thread, have the liberty of allowing our emotions to dictate our responses. An article written on THG, in my opinion, should not contain bias. It should present an argument based on fact. This article failed to do so.
If any us were in misery using our comps, perhaps we would have switch to Apple. But it seems to me the only people that are in misery using windows are the fools that don't know what they are doing. (Yes I am calling you a fool.) One mouse button, that to me is misery.
Furthermore, those Junk PCs you speak of are made from the same hardware that your MAC now runs. If the PC is in fact junk, perhaps you can explain the strategy behind Apple abandoning their micro architecture and jumping all over Intel's phallus?
And please, Microsoft's homosexual logo? Must I remind you of the multicolored apple yalls used to sponsor? Looked like a flag from a Gay pride parade.
Although, that is beside the point, because this article, and this thread are about the hardware. Microsoft has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. Just because I own a "PC" does not mean that I run Windows. But I am sure you have lots of experience with Linux and I don't need to reiterate this point.
[citation][nom]V8VENOM[/nom]Oh if you want to play games on a Mac it's called Boot Camp you morons.[/citation]
Or i could play games on my PC with my more powerful hardware that I bought at a discount over the Apple hardware. Then if i feel the need, i can boot OSX on my PC using GRUB. But no, we have no experience with such things...
I for one do not care about MACs or Mac OS. If you want to use it great! Good for you. What riled me up about this article is the blatant lack of factual evidence to support some of the authors egregious claims. I would have been equally irritated if the article had been slanderous to MACs. The picture of the two laptops talking to each other on the first page is a perfect example of how the author let the his personal feelings dictate the tone of the article.
We, as posters on some random thread, have the liberty of allowing our emotions to dictate our responses. An article written on THG, in my opinion, should not contain bias. It should present an argument based on fact. This article failed to do so.
R u guys retarded? Why would you compare a 17inch Dell to 15 MacbookPro?
If you compare a 15 inch Dell to a 15 inch Macbook you would see that the Dell starts at $999.
The apple 17 inch starts at $2799. The Dell is $1999
Let's compare Apples to Apples here. No pun intended
If you compare a 15 inch Dell to a 15 inch Macbook you would see that the Dell starts at $999.
The apple 17 inch starts at $2799. The Dell is $1999
Let's compare Apples to Apples here. No pun intended
The bottom line, for me, is that they would even take the time to publish this article. THG used to constantly test and retest computer parts. Not anymore.
The CPU and VGA charts are useless now. If you want to see how a Q9450 compares to the E8400 in various games and applications, you have to go elsewhere. The same goes for the latest vga cards.
This site is going the way of PC Magazine.
The CPU and VGA charts are useless now. If you want to see how a Q9450 compares to the E8400 in various games and applications, you have to go elsewhere. The same goes for the latest vga cards.
This site is going the way of PC Magazine.
Wow, an article griping about Apple price mis-conceptions by adding more mis-conceptions. That's new.
Apple = Penthouse: expensive, trendy, but can't do much with it.
Windows = Suburbs: Any price any configuration, can do almost anything with it, and prices are very negotiable and broad ranged depending on the service you want.
Is it me or is Tom's hardware going down the drain?
Apple = Penthouse: expensive, trendy, but can't do much with it.
Windows = Suburbs: Any price any configuration, can do almost anything with it, and prices are very negotiable and broad ranged depending on the service you want.
Is it me or is Tom's hardware going down the drain?
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