The Power Supply Unit tier list Discussion thread

[MasterMace]

The tiered lists for cases will do fine, just like this is doing fine. You're not going to have a best for the money list, just like this isn't one. You can't start arguing "mine costs XXX dollars so it must be better", because it doesn't work that way. In the same way, you're not going to be arguing about which tier a Corsair RM1000 belongs to based on its price by comparison to an XFX Pro Series 750W XXX Edition [Silver]. They are 2 different qualities, regardless of whether or not the XFX is $80 vs the Corsair at $150.


Speaking of which, you're missing the Corsair RM1000.

 

[tiny voices]

So you do not agree with the way the case list was portrayed above then? Because a VERY good quality HTPC case would still fan under tier 4, not 1 or 2.

 

[Deleted member 217926]

The tiered lists for cases will do fine, just like this is doing fine. You're not going to have a best for the money list, just like this isn't one. You can't start arguing "mine costs XXX dollars so it must be better", because it doesn't work that way. In the same way, you're not going to be arguing about which tier a Corsair RM1000 belongs to based on its price by comparison to an XFX Pro Series 750W XXX Edition [Silver]. They are 2 different qualities, regardless of whether or not the XFX is $80 vs the Corsair at $150.


Speaking of which, you're missing the Corsair RM1000.

I don't think your analogy is quite right there since the $80 XFX is better than the $150 Corsair. And really, no one is missing anything by missing an RM or CS series or as I like to call them, Corsair's decline into mediocrity.

 

[dottorrent]

Tier 3. TechPowerUp & Anandtech reported some bad ripple suppression on the 12v and 3.3v rail and horrific temperatures on maximum load.

 

[MasterMace]

Skylyne, I disagree with your tier setup. How are you going to but an amazing quality, $200, high end HTPC case all the way down in tier 4.

I keep my stance that a tiered case system will never work.

So you do not agree with the way the case list was portrayed above then? Because a VERY good quality HTPC case would still fan under tier 4, not 1 or 2.

The tiered lists for cases will do fine, just like this is doing fine. You're not going to have a best for the money list, just like this isn't one. You can't start arguing "mine costs XXX dollars so it must be better", because it doesn't work that way. In the same way, you're not going to be arguing about which tier a Corsair RM1000 belongs to based on its price by comparison to an XFX Pro Series 750W XXX Edition [Silver]. They are 2 different qualities, regardless of whether or not the XFX is $80 vs the Corsair at $150.


Speaking of which, you're missing the Corsair RM1000.

I don't think your analogy is quite right there since the $80 XFX is better than the $150 Corsair. And really, no one is missing anything by missing an RM or CS series or as I like to call them, Corsair's decline into mediocrity.

The only way I can think of for a tiered case list would be if it were broken down into price brackets, then sub-tiered into form factor.

Best $50-$75 itx cases
Matx cases
Mid towers
Full towers

Same thing for $75-$100 (for example), $100-$150, $150-$200

-You can't put a case in a tier based on its format. It removes the entire point of the list. In that manner, yes, I disagree with the previous poster's 9001 tiered suggestion.


-My analogy is right, because the $80 XFX is better than the $150 Corsair. My error was that I didn't read the previous poster's list because I really didn't care to read a WoT. My response was a response to a mishmash of previous posts, so it may have been confused as to whom I was responding.

 

[MasterMace]

Also missing:

Thortech Thunderbolt - 650, 850, 1000, 1200 (all Gold Certified)
Thortech Thunderbolt Plus - 850W (not reviewed in English), 1000W, 1200W (all Gold Certified)

 

[MasterMace]

Sorry about all of the model numbers etc, silverstone likes to discontinue things...

Missing (with reviews, available to buy)

Thermaltake - Tough Power DPS Gold 850W (TPG-0850D [Sirtec])
-------------------
Silverstone SFX - ST45SF-G [450W Gold - Enhance Electronics], ST45SF [450W Bronze - FSP], ST30SF [300W Bronze - FSP]
Silverstone Nightjar ST50NF [500W Silver - Seventeam], ST40NF [400W Bronze - FSP]
Silverstone Zeus - ZM1350 [1350W Silver - Seventeam]
Silverstone Strider Plus - Entire series
Silverstone Strider Gold - ST-55FG [550W Gold], ST65F-G [650W Gold]
Silverstone Strider Gold Evolution - ST1000-G Evolution
Silverstone Strider Gold S - ST75F-GS [750W], ST85F-GS [850W]
Silverstone Strider Essential - [Sirtec] ST40F-ES [400W Plus], ST50F-ES [500W Plus], ST60F-ESB [600W Bronze]
Silverstone Strider Plus - ST50F-P [500W Bronze - FSP], ST60F-PS [600W Gold - Sirtec], ST75F-P [750W Silver - Enhance Electronics], ST85F-P [850W Silver - Enhance Electronics], ST1000-P [1000W Silver - Enhance Electronics]


Missing (without Reviews/English)

Silverstone Strider Gold Evolution - ST1200-G Evolution
Silverstone Strider Essential - ST40F-ESB [400W Bronze], ST50F-ESB [500W Bronze], ST50F-ESG [500W Gold], ST60F-ESG [600W Gold], ST70F-ESB [700W Bronze], ST70F-ESG [700W Gold]

 

[MasterMace]

Regarding the power supplies, that XFX unit being a T1 puts a lot of downward pressure on the prices. You start wondering which units to recommend below it with it being $80, Silver certified, T1, and 750W.

 

[MasterMace]

Missing the Antec True Power Classic 550W Gold

 

[Deleted member 217926]

I'm going to exercise a bit of moderation here to keep this thread on track dealing with power supplies. Dottorrent if you do a case tier list and want to link to it somewhere in the tier list itself that's fine but lets keep discussions in this thread to power supplies.

I may go through this thread and delete some irrelevant posts and if yours is one of them don't be offended it's just to keep the thread on track.


Good catch above about the missing Silverstone units. They are generally very good and unlike some other brands seem to truly be worldwide. Enermax should also be on the priority list as well in my opinion.

 

[MasterMace]

be quiet! Power Zone 650 and 850W are mislabeled here, and on realhardtech as being Silver certified, when they are in fact Bronze.

 

[MasterMace]

Corsair GS and TX Series are discontinued and largely unavailable. You CAN still order them on Amazon, for highly inflated prices.

 

[Deleted member 217926]

Just noticed the Corsair HXi is tier 1. Based on HardOCP's rather unflattering review of the HX 1000i I would say tier 2b would be more like it. It's not as good as the original HX that was released 6 years ago.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/10/20/corsair_hx1000i_1000w_power_supply_review/9#.VGAoFsnzhf4

 

[MasterMace]

Missing the Enermax Platimax 1350W. (Edit* 1500W and 1050W unavailable for purchase)

 

[tiny voices]

Just noticed the Corsair HXi is tier 1. Based on HardOCP's rather unflattering review of the HX 1000i I would say tier 2b would be more like it. It's not as good as the original HX that was released 6 years ago.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/10/20/corsair_hx1000i_1000w_power_supply_review/9#.VGAoFsnzhf4

Read the review and 100% agree.

 

[MasterMace]

I do believe Hardocp tested it and it was 1% efficiency below Platinum at 100% load (15.3A [3.3v] - 15.2A [5V] - 71.1A [12v]) (Platinum 89%, Test 88%) at cold.

JonnyGuru's test (10 - 10 - 75) gave 89.2% Hot, 89.5% cold.
KitGuru's test (16.53 - 15.66 - 71.4) gave 92% hot.
TechPowerup's (3.03 - 9.046 - 76.233) gave 91.46% hot.
Overclock3d ran 91.6% [terrible review, no info]
NextHardware (italian) ran 91.9% [not sure if terrible, or bad translation for lack of amperage info]
technic3d (german) ran 90% [worst, rounded to whole numbers, no info]

I believe running below cert at a review is grounds for losing T1

 

[LukaBoki]

Hey guys,about this Antec Earthwatts Green I want to get,I was reading some reviews of it on Amazon and Newegg and a couple of people said that they noticed a burning smell and smoke coming from their PC.
Now I'm scared to get this unit. 🙁
It's this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371044&cm_re=Antec_Earthwatts_Green_650W-_-17-371-044-_-Product
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004NBZAES/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AZA8F2FX7HCUJ

 

[Deleted member 217926]

Hey guys,about this Antec Earthwatts Green I want to get,I was reading some reviews of it on Amazon and Newegg and a couple of people said that they noticed a burning smell and smoke coming from their PC.
Now I'm scared to get this unit. 🙁
It's this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371044&cm_re=Antec_Earthwatts_Green_650W-_-17-371-044-_-Product
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004NBZAES/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AZA8F2FX7HCUJ

Nothing wrong with that unit except at that price you can get 80 Plus Gold and likely modular. Are you in the US? If so here are a couple of great deals.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182263&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

http://www.ncixus.com/products/?usaffiliateid=1000031504&sku=73043&vpn=P1-650X-XXB9&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1452

 

[LukaBoki]

I am not in the US unfortunately,and it seems that the seller has removed the PSU I want to order,so now I can't get anything.

 

[damric]

The list is looking great except the yellow letters I cannot read them.

 

[ko888]

The list is looking great except the yellow letters I cannot read them.

It all looks clear and readable to me. Try properly calibrating your monitor.

 

[tiny voices]

Looks good to me too!

 

[dottorrent]

Sorry about all of the model numbers etc, silverstone likes to discontinue things...

Missing (with reviews, available to buy)

Thermaltake - Tough Power DPS Gold 850W (TPG-0850D [Sirtec])
-------------------
Silverstone SFX - ST45SF-G [450W Gold - Enhance Electronics], ST45SF [450W Bronze - FSP], ST30SF [300W Bronze - FSP]
Silverstone Nightjar ST50NF [500W Silver - Seventeam], ST40NF [400W Bronze - FSP]
Silverstone Zeus - ZM1350 [1350W Silver - Seventeam]
Silverstone Strider Plus - Entire series
Silverstone Strider Gold - ST-55FG [550W Gold], ST65F-G [650W Gold]
Silverstone Strider Gold Evolution - ST1000-G Evolution
Silverstone Strider Gold S - ST75F-GS [750W], ST85F-GS [850W]
Silverstone Strider Essential - [Sirtec] ST40F-ES [400W Plus], ST50F-ES [500W Plus], ST60F-ESB [600W Bronze]
Silverstone Strider Plus - ST50F-P [500W Bronze - FSP], ST60F-PS [600W Gold - Sirtec], ST75F-P [750W Silver - Enhance Electronics], ST85F-P [850W Silver - Enhance Electronics], ST1000-P [1000W Silver - Enhance Electronics]


Missing (without Reviews/English)

Silverstone Strider Gold Evolution - ST1200-G Evolution
Silverstone Strider Essential - ST40F-ESB [400W Bronze], ST50F-ESB [500W Bronze], ST50F-ESG [500W Gold], ST60F-ESG [600W Gold], ST70F-ESB [700W Bronze], ST70F-ESG [700W Gold]

Noted. Update soon.

 

[dottorrent]

UPDATE November 10th 2014 -

The following PSUs have been changed -

Tier two class A

Antec Truepower Classic 750 changed to Truepower Classic series
Thermaltake Toughpower DPS Gold 1050w changed to Toughpower DPS Gold series

I've also had a few requests to add a few more Silverstone units. So here are the following current units as of this post in the following tiers -

Tier two class A -

Silverstone
Strider Gold Evolution series
Strider Plus 750w 850w 1000w 600w

Tier two Class B -

Silverstone
Strider Gold / Gold S series
Strider Plus 500w

Tier three -

Silverstone Strider Essential 400w 500w 600w

Currently un-tiered -

Silverstone
Strider Essential 400w 500w
Strider Gold S 1500w

The Thermaltake units are next to be added ASAP.

 

[MasterMace]

Missing all but the 500 of the LEPA G Series. Of that series you have 2 OEMs:
*Enermax - G700-MA, G900-MA, G1000-MA, G1200-MA [not reviewed?], G1600-MA
*CWT - G650-MAS, G750-MAS, G850-MAS


Underlined models are available for purchase.