The most interesting thing is the FX-8350 beats the i7-4770K with Mantle(minimum frame rates), and gets smoked on DirectX. Being 10% faster probably isn't within margin of error either, so it's interesting.The newest drivers (14.2) also are helping the Kaveri APUs pretty dramatically, at least with regards to the A10-7850K. The performance improvement fundamentally changes the limitations of the GPU, and makes it more consistent with what we expected when we looked at the specs. I'm a little surprised it hasn't been reviewed here, since the one site that did showed between 20% and 40% improvements in frame rates. A more thorough review would be interesting, to say the least.Either way, with hardware pushing against a wall, software is going to be an increasingly important driver (forgive the pun) in performance. It always was important, but now it's critical. Software companies can't be lazy anymore, and hope the next generation of hardware will carry the load to the next level of performance.It amazes me Microsoft had to wait for AMD to release Mantle before they realized they might want to improve DirectX. It wasn't always right there before their eyes? A hardware company had to figure it out, for them to copy? Intel always made better compilers than the trash Microsoft sells, but for AMD to show up Microsoft is something new, and should be embarrassing for them.