Question Upgrade to AM5 or to an RTX 4070 Super ?

[alejor9719]

I want to upgrade my build for $600 USD. What will be better to upgrade to, AM5 or to upgrade to a 4070 Super?

My specs are:

CPU: Ryzen 5600X
GPU: RTX 3060 Ti
RAM: 2 x 8GB
Monitor: 1440p @ 165hz

 

[Lutfij]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

Since you have the RTX3060Ti, the upgrade wouldn't be worthwhile with the RTX4070 Super. In fact you should be fine as is...though what does the rest of your specs look like?

Please list the specs to your current build like so:
When posting a thread of troubleshooting nature, it's customary to include your full system's specs. Please list the specs to your build like so:
CPU:
CPU cooler:
Motherboard:
Ram:
SSD/HDD:
GPU:
PSU:
Chassis:
OS:
Monitor:
include the age of the PSU apart from it's make and model. BIOS version for your motherboard at this moment of time.

 

[helper800]

A Zen 3 CPU should be able to push a 1440p resolution north of 120 frames for most games. What do you feel your PC is lacking? What games run too slow specifically?

 

[punkncat]

According to the power supply but would probably update to the better graphics card alongside a bump up to at least 32GB of RAM.

In my own world I would wait out the AM5 until after 9000 releases and they start running hard to resist sale prices on 7xxx.

edit- bet you will be able to get a song of a deal on some 14th gen Intel...

 

[logainofhades]

As you are on 1440p, I would say yes to a gpu upgrade. The 3060ti's 8gb vram buffer is quickly becoming and issue for 1440p. Not a fan of the 12gb buffer on the 4070 super either. A 7900gre is nearly as fast, and has a 16gb, and easily $50 cheaper. Take that $50 and get a 32gb kit of ram.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecvuRvR8Uls

 

[alejor9719]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

Since you have the RTX3060Ti, the upgrade wouldn't be worthwhile with the RTX4070 Super. In fact you should be fine as is...though what does the rest of your specs look like?

Please list the specs to your current build like so:
When posting a thread of troubleshooting nature, it's customary to include your full system's specs. Please list the specs to your build like so:
CPU:
CPU cooler:
Motherboard:
Ram:
SSD/HDD:
GPU:
PSU:
Chassis:
OS:
Monitor:
include the age of the PSU apart from it's make and model. BIOS version for your motherboard at this moment of time.

CPU: Ryzen 5600X

CPU cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 v2

Motherboard: Asrock b550m pro4

Ram: 2x8gb 3200

SSD/HDD: 2tb SSD nvme gen 4

GPU: rtx 3060 ti

PSU: 550w

Chassis: bitfenix novamesh se

OS: Windows 11

Monitor: Samsung 1440p 165hz Odyssey G

 

[alejor9719]

A Zen 3 CPU should be able to push a 1440p resolution north of 120 frames for most games. What do you feel your PC is lacking? What games run too slow specifically?

Just want more fps

 

[helper800]

Just want more fps

What are the types of games you play? Most likely getting a better GPU will net you better FPS but I would not put a higher power graphics card in a PC with a 550w PSU so you would likely need a better PSU as well. What is the exact PSU in the PC?

 

[Lucky_SLS]

The next notable jump in performance would be the 7900GRE.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Fq...-gre-16-gb-video-card-gv-r79gregaming-oc-16gd

for CPU, maybe the 5700X3D.

But i would not risk it with a low quality 550W PSU.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vN...-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0850fnfagu-l

 

[logainofhades]

Yea a new PSU is needed before you upgrade anything else.

 

[rcald2000]

Sell the RTX 3060 Ti, and use the proceeds towards the upgrade. It should be able to fetch you $200-$225 USD.


RTX 4070 Ti Super ($800) + R5 5600X

OR

RTX 4070 Super ($600) + Ryzen 7 5700X3D ($200)

Selling the Ryzen 5 5600X should garner $80.

OR

Forget the PC upgrades and buy a Steam Deck OLED


Question: What are your main game(s) to play?


** notes **

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3060-ti.c3681
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ASUS TUF Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX™ 4070 Ti Super OC Edition Gaming Graphics Card (PCIe 4.0, 16GB GDDR6X, HDMI 2.1a, DisplayPort 1.4a),RTX4070Ti|OC|Black
$816.99

Amazon.com

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AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D 8-Core, 16-Thread Desktop Processor
$209.98

Amazon.com

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Thermalright BA120 ARGB
$22.90

Amazon.com

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Thermalright BA120 non-rgb
$21.49

Amazon.com

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[alejor9719]

As you are on 1440p, I would say yes to a gpu upgrade. The 3060ti's 8gb vram buffer is quickly becoming and issue for 1440p. Not a fan of the 12gb buffer on the 4070 super either. A 7900gre is nearly as fast, and has a 16gb, and easily $50 cheaper. Take that $50 and get a 32gb kit of ram.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecvuRvR8Uls

What are the types of games you play? Most likely getting a better GPU will net you better FPS but I would not put a higher power graphics card in a PC with a 550w PSU so you would likely need a better PSU as well. What is the exact PSU in the PC?

Azza PSAZ-550w

 

[alejor9719]

Sell the RTX 3060 Ti, and use the proceeds towards the upgrade. It should be able to fetch you $200-$225 USD.


RTX 4070 Ti Super ($800) + R5 5600X

OR

RTX 4070 Super ($600) + Ryzen 7 5700X3D ($200)

Selling the Ryzen 5 5600X should garner $80.

OR

Forget the PC upgrades and buy a Steam Deck OLED


Question: What are your main game(s) to play?


** notes **

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3060-ti.c3681
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ASUS TUF Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX™ 4070 Ti Super OC Edition Gaming Graphics Card (PCIe 4.0, 16GB GDDR6X, HDMI 2.1a, DisplayPort 1.4a),RTX4070Ti|OC|Black
$816.99

Amazon.com

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AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D 8-Core, 16-Thread Desktop Processor
$209.98

Amazon.com

------------------------------
Thermalright BA120 ARGB
$22.90

Amazon.com

------------------------------
Thermalright BA120 non-rgb
$21.49

Amazon.com

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[artk2219]

You dont have a bad setup as it currently stands, you could probably game on that platform for another 2 or 3 years. The steps that i would recommend taking would be to:

1. Upgrade to 32GB of RAM

2. Upgrade that power supply to a decent 750W or 850w unit, since youll need the extra power for most of the higher end future GPU's unless theres some transistor magic that happens in the next few years.

3. Pickup an RX 7900 GRE, 7900 XT or RTX 4070 ti (super). The 7900GRE is the best priced and quite well balanced. It is possible that you can get 7900 XT \ RTX 4070 ti super performance out of it with a VRAM overclock, but that is always a lottery ticket. Some cards will handle it just fine, others wont OC at all, your mileage will definitely vary, it still ofers great performance even at stock though.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-radeon-rx-7900-gre-tuf/41.html

 

[logainofhades]

I would start with a new PSU and a 7800xt, and if you can stretch the budget a bit more, 32gb ram. The 7900gre is faster, but not $50 faster.

PCPartPicker Part List

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($67.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: ASRock Challenger OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card ($479.97 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $637.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-07-31 12:15 EDT-0400


I would then sell the 3060ti, and buy a 5700x3d.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D 3 GHz 8-Core Processor ($209.96 @ Newegg)
Total: $209.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-07-31 12:17 EDT-0400

 

[Zerk2012]

Just want more fps

Turn all settings to low and off and run some games that will show about how many FPS your processor can give you.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

The GRE at launch with its locked OC potential was not worth the extra 50. But AMD allowed OC later on.

At stock it is 9% better and when you OC, you get 10% more performance.

 

[logainofhades]

I personally wouldn't pay $50 more for an average of 16fps, at 1440p, on the 1% lows, but that is for the OP to decide. I don't really pay any attention to max or average FPS. The minimum is what matters, for a smooth gaming experience.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5tbCbm1IYM&t=495s

 

[helper800]

I don't really pay any attention to max or average FPS. The minimum is what matters, for a smooth gaming experience.

In my opinion, that is also highly subjective. You have to be getting at least a minimum amount of average FPS for games to be playable as well. If your minimums are within 10 fps of your average but your average FPS is only 55 (45fps 1%) that is going to play "worse" than say 90 fps with 40 fps 1% lows. The difference here would be more consistent frame times, less stutters due to fps drops, but nearly twice the perceived input lag. One scenario would be better for certain games than the other.

 

[helper800]

The GRE at launch with its locked OC potential was not worth the extra 50. But AMD allowed OC later on.

At stock it is 9% better and when you OC, you get 10% more performance.

50 dollars for 9% more base and, with an OC, up to 20% faster than a 7800XT? Sounds worth it to me.