Gabe Newell defends Valve's anti-cheat system on Reddit.
Valve Says Its Anti-cheat System Doesn't Spy on Users : Read more
Valve Says Its Anti-cheat System Doesn't Spy on Users : Read more
If the NSA wanted to spy on you it wouldnt need to do so through valve or a video game. lol"Valve Says Its Anti-cheat System Doesn't Spy on Users" Yeah, NSA agrees with us...
If the NSA wanted to spy on you it wouldnt need to do so through valve or a video game. lol"Valve Says Its Anti-cheat System Doesn't Spy on Users" Yeah, NSA agrees with us...
I've been a server admin for a very long time, and I actually don't mind those sorts of hacks. By that I mean that they are blatantly obvious, which makes my life easy. Yeah, it's silly that a 5 year old spin hack still works, but I'd much rather that Valve concentrate on the sneaky new stuff than worry about the stuff that anyone who's played for more than a day can easily spot.Biggest problem with VAC is not the delayed banning or checking for DNS cache entries that shouldn't belong. It's the fact that even for really old spin hacks, autoaims, wall hacks, the system does nothing. It doesn't ban the user automatically for hacks that have already been exposed.I'm all for sneakiness and what not, but when someone goes on a server with a 5 year old hack and blasts away at the opponents then ... 570 banned player out of millions isn't even scratching the surface.
No that's not what he's saying at all. Before you get on your soap box you should gain some basic comprehension skills. Besides like others said, I don't mind Valve spying on my midget porn if it keeps bans cheater's who ruin games. On a similar note learn to have some fun and play the game without cheats.MUST ABSOLUTELY NOT have visited or contacted certain IP addresses on the internet? So in other words, exchange part of your freedom to use your machine that you own how you want to for the privileged of playing our game?
Besides like others said, I don't mind Valve spying on my midget porn if it keeps bans cheater's who ruin games. On a similar note learn to have some fun and play the game without cheats.
That is exceptionally narrowminded. Because you enjoy playing a game in a certain way, you assume that is the only way to play the game and have fun? I obviously do not agree with that assessment. Some people enjoy restoring cars, some enjoy racing them, some love modifying them and others enjoy just looking at them. All of those are legit reasons to be involved with cars.
The same should apply to electronic entertainment, and in this specific case gaming.
Besides, you imply that cheating ruins a game. Again this is incredibly narrowminded and suits only the simplest of minds. It CAN ruin a game, but it could also improve it. Cheating in Gnomoria makes the game more fun for example. Modding Flatout 2, and thus cheating, makes the game even better in multiplayer than it already was.
Thanks for your input ddpruitt. This is the part that I'm referring to:No that's not what he's saying at all. Before you get on your soap box you should gain some basic comprehension skills. Besides like others said, I don't mind Valve spying on my midget porn if it keeps bans cheater's who ruin games. On a similar note learn to have some fun and play the game without cheats.
check was done by looking for a partial match to those (non-web) cheat DRM servers in the DNS cache.
Wait wait wait. So you're telling me that in order not to get banned by this automated tool, a user - a client of yours! - MUST ABSOLUTELY NOT have visited or contacted certain IP addresses on the internet?There is a large difference between a website and a domain/IP address. The addresses they choose are not consumer web sites, but basically web facing bot net servers. It's somebody's personal website that serves as a control/reporting point for their illicit software.This is not about where you can and can not go at all.1) Steam and VAC are not anti modding in the slightest, in fact in 2012/13 they released an entire platform for modding and custom content for steam games and have become a HUGE force for increasing mod participation.... clearly cheating is not modding.2)VAC is not purely anti-cheating, it's a multiplayer / server protection tool. VAC does not run every time you start up steam but instead when you join a VAC protected server. The purpose being to provide some kind of attempted standard to make standard multi player servers available and enjoyable for everybody.Hell, even then, if you want to cheat online you can start your own server and un-check the VAC box and allow cheating. So far you are 0/0 on talking points. Clearly you have no idea of anything you are talking about. I appreciate you taking the time out of your day to call us all narrow-minded simpletons, your highness. Your judgement is much appreciated.That is exceptionally narrowminded. Because you enjoy playing a game in a certain way, you assume that is the only way to play the game and have fun? I obviously do not agree with that assessment. Some people enjoy restoring cars, some enjoy racing them, some love modifying them and others enjoy just looking at them. All of those are legit reasons to be involved with cars. The same should apply to electronic entertainment, and in this specific case gaming. Besides, you imply that cheating ruins a game. Again this is incredibly narrowminded and suits only the simplest of minds. It CAN ruin a game, but it could also improve it. Cheating in Gnomoria makes the game more fun for example. Modding Flatout 2, and thus cheating, makes the game even better in multiplayer than it already was.
Stop looking at cheat selling websites cheater.Wait wait wait. So you're telling me that in order not to get banned by this automated tool, a user - a client of yours! - MUST ABSOLUTELY NOT have visited or contacted certain IP addresses on the internet? So in other words, exchange part of your freedom to use your machine that you own how you want to for the privileged of playing our game?Yes, granted, the possibility of a client of yours that isn't cheating who visits or contacts those servers is very, very low, but it's the principle that I'm questioning. Slippery slope*? Yep, I think so, especially when I stop and take a look at how rights have been steadily more and more eroded in the United States and elsewhere.NOTE: I'm not comparing Valve to the NSA, I'm saying that if Valve continues to use a practice of restricting where their clients can go in order to use their software, what's to stop others from following their lead? Already I can't have e.g. SysInternal's ProcessExplorer running while playing certain games due to DRM, never mind the fact that it's my own machine and I should be able to run whatever I please on it because it's _MY_ machine.*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope