Venice looks good!

P4Man · Mar 17, 2005

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2.4 GHz A64 Venice 3800+ overclocked to 3 GHz on air (stock AFX cooler), running at a cool 34°C. Not bad!

According to Charlie (Inquirer) 2.8 GHz opteron is also a go this month.

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Ned_Flanders · Mar 17, 2005

What's in the Venice?

SOI?

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Ned_Flanders · Mar 17, 2005

and what's with 50% of the posters saying *subscribed*?!

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P4Man · Mar 17, 2005

SOI has been used in all K8's AFAIK. Venice is a new stepping, and possibly a slightly different (IBMs ?)process skewed for clock rather than low power. I'm sure others can clue you in on this though.

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Ned_Flanders · Mar 17, 2005

1.2Vcore @ 2400MHz (stock)

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mozzartusm · Mar 17, 2005

Whats up pecker head :tongue:

Now that I have given up hope, I feel alot better

ChipDeath · Mar 17, 2005

It uses new gondola technology for prefetching.

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ChipDeath · Mar 17, 2005

Damn. Makes my winny look like a rather unrefined 'Proof of concept' chip or something :frown:

AMD seem to be really rubbing salt into Intel's raw wounds now...

Things look good for them!

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Voltmodded Sapphire 9800Pro @ 450/350 w/ modded VGA silencer 3.

Rugger · Mar 17, 2005

I'm more interested in what it will run at STABLE! I just want to get something that will OC well and stably.

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Ned_Flanders · Mar 17, 2005

lol, I thought you were being serious for a second then!

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slvr_phoenix · Mar 17, 2005

AMD seem to be really rubbing salt into Intel's raw wounds now..

That's what Intel gets for ignoring SoI. **ROFL**

I wonder what the next process shrink will bring though. Intel supposedly is going to start using SoI there. But then, they're probably so far behind SoI advances that they may need years to catch up even then. :O

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ChipDeath · Mar 17, 2005

hehe. Couldn't resist that one!

Should've used:
"It's a standard winchester, but has a mini water-cooling system under the IHS :lol: "

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A64 3200+ Winchester @ 250x10= ~2.5Ghz, ~1.41 Vcore
1Gb @ 209Mhz, 2T, 3-5-5-10
Voltmodded (1.99V) Sapphire 9800Pro @ 460/350 w/ modded VGA silencer 3.

endyen · Mar 18, 2005

they're probably so far behind SoI advances that they may need years to catch up

Not bloody likely. They are well into FD soi at this point, and should be able to regain the performance crown, if the go with a high enough fsb.

ChipDeath · Mar 18, 2005

They'll catch up. They always do...

More importantly, the Prescott isn't that bad a performer, so joe blow is still going to be satisfied with his PC (does he know or care about how hot it is? no.), so DELL et al aren't going to care, and Intel will still keep most of their huge market share. Let's face it, it's only us enthusiasts who'll really care or notice, and we make up such a tiny proportion of the market. Intel Needn't be in any rush.

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A64 3200+ Winchester @ 250x10= ~2.5Ghz, ~1.41 Vcore
1Gb @ 209Mhz, 2T, 3-5-5-10
Voltmodded (1.99V) Sapphire 9800Pro @ 460/350 w/ modded VGA silencer 3.

P4Man · Mar 18, 2005

>o joe blow is still going to be satisfied with his PC (does
>he know or care about how hot it is? no.),

No, but he'll notice the noise, and start asking around...

Furthermore, AMD already has significant marketshare in the "Joe Blow" market, around 50% of consumer desktops in Europe and Japan, I am not sure about the US, I guess Dell is too big there.

Anyway, where AMD really lags is the corporate desktop market, a HUGE market where they basically have no presence. As Opteron goes forward however, I can well imagine corporations becoming less worried about purchasing AMD based desktops. Especially since those buying shouldn't be Joe Blows, and should know about AMDs features, performance and power consuption. I'm not sure if Intel can simply rest on its laurels..

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ChipDeath · Mar 18, 2005

Ah yes, forgot about the noise. Don't know about 775, but the 478 scotty fan is a real whiny SOB. It's horrible.

I guess 'Joe Blow' probably will notice and look into it, and while he probably won't replace mobo/ram/cpu, whenever one of his friends wants a PC he'll no doubt advise against Intel.

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Voltmodded (1.99V) Sapphire 9800Pro @ 460/350 w/ modded VGA silencer 3.

Spitfire_x86 · Mar 18, 2005

I guess 'Joe Blow' probably will notice and look into it, and while he probably won't replace mobo/ram/cpu, whenever one of his friends wants a PC he'll no doubt advise against Intel.

Nooooooo........"Joe Blow"s will never ever advise against buying Intel. They worship Intel as the Almighty PC God. They are too afraid to be the victim of their PC God's wrath.

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RichPLS · Mar 18, 2005

LOL! But AMD and Intel market lemons. I have built both type PC's, and there is good and bad in each. The battle lines are drawn and redrawn depending on what is cutting edge currently, just now it is AMD's favor.

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Zoron · Mar 18, 2005

No, but he'll notice the noise, and start asking around...

Perhaps... but then again perhaps not.

A friend of mine got himself a Dell XPS system. Now this sucker is huge, has a huge heat sink, and three or four fans. I told him he was probably going to have one hell of a loud system... but imagine my surprise when we turned it on and it was virtually silent. (At least compared to my home-built box).

Depends on where you get the computer. Some will be almost silent, others will be louder than rush hour.

 If you design software that is fool-proof, only a fool will want to use it.

Xeon · Mar 19, 2005

Nooooooo........"Joe Blow"s will never ever advise against buying Intel. They worship Intel as the Almighty PC God. They are too afraid to be the victim of their PC God's wrath.

They prefer worlds largest/richest/most powerful/all knowing/bullet proof/share holder friendly semi conductor god.

-Jeremy Dach

endyen · Mar 19, 2005

For dells to be noisey, they would have to give a rat's ass about heat. Dell likes it when the chip is throttled. It makes them more stable.

Rugger · Mar 19, 2005

LOL - no mercy! Hey - it's one way to keep a Prescott cool&quiet!

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P4Man · Mar 19, 2005

>share holder friendly semi conductor god.

I made substantially more money on AMD than I did on intel.. but I guess I'm the exception

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Xeon · Mar 19, 2005

Yes very much so considering Intel made more per share but whatever.

-Jeremy Dach

P4Man · Mar 19, 2005

So [-peep-], AFAIK AMD even posted a loss. Nevertheless, I don't think I'm the only one that recognized a good buy when AMD hit something like $3.5 per share.

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Sold them on average for 3.5x as much, I'm not complaining..

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