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Jesus this kid still doesn't understand does he? 8O :lol: Why would they spend money on a complete different job for geforce, I think they incorperate the work done first with the quadro's into the ge-force.

..... you really are ignorant! :trophy:

Ok, prove me wrong with some proof on how nvidia cards are made
 
If you still don't believe I own this look for any other pics posted on the net that arn't from the inquirer(they did a review with a pic of the system hooked up to a computer) or nvidia.com. Or I will take another picture which I dont really want to do because someone might use it for an ebay scam.
Its sound a little overkill yes, but I am trying to keep it under 8k in cost, which is fairly reasonable.
Sorry I didn't mean cores-physical processors.
I have been very intrested in computers all the way back to my pentium 75mhz, so I know a bit about computers.
I bought the pentium d 950 before it came out, it is a confidential processor, and I havn't wanted to upgrade just yet, maybe when quake wars and bioshock are released I will get a core 2 extreme.
And sorry it just seems to me that quadro cards will be what nvidia spends the majority of there time on. Why would they spend money on a complete different job for geforce, I think they incorperate the work done first with the quadro's into the ge-force.

Well it wouldn't hurt to most a picture or two so we can take you seriously :wink: the majority of us aren't con artists

Quadros are (for the most part) basically over-priced Ge-forces with certain features enabled for rendering programs. They suck with games.

And the system that you were "showing-off" was so ridiculous, you were just asking for flames when you actually started defending it.

Sometimes we can be a little hard on newbies because most of us just hate it when people come in here and can only act like they know what they're talking about.

I'd say go with a quad core or dual core C2D LGA 775 system, It's cheaper, and much simpler to setup, and can provide plenty of power. You can even OC it if you want.

And SLI-ed 8800GTX's currently can't be beat

just work with us a bit :wink:

Helping is what we're here for

EDIT: Whoops, thx Fedor 8)
 
There really is no need to bother because you'll just try to think of another way to get around it. It's not worth my time :wink: :mrgreen: I'm sure someone else might enlighten you, I'm out, peace
 
Yea these people are actually really ignorant. I will do whatever I want with my money and I don't want to buy a geforce or core 2 based system so I am not. If anyone wants me to post more pics of it for proof I will and post my name over it so it won't be used in ebay.
I am interested in the post of the quadro benchmarks. Does anyone have and benchmarks of quadro vs geforce on doom3, quake, fear, etc.
 
If you still don't believe I own this look for any other pics posted on the net that arn't from the inquirer(they did a review with a pic of the system hooked up to a computer) or nvidia.com. Or I will take another picture which I dont really want to do because someone might use it for an ebay scam.
Its sound a little overkill yes, but I am trying to keep it under 8k in cost, which is fairly reasonable.
Sorry I didn't mean cores-physical processors.
I have been very intrested in computers all the way back to my pentium 75mhz, so I know a bit about computers.
I bought the pentium d 950 before it came out, it is a confidential processor, and I havn't wanted to upgrade just yet, maybe when quake wars and bioshock are released I will get a core 2 extreme.
And sorry it just seems to me that quadro cards will be what nvidia spends the majority of there time on. Why would they spend money on a complete different job for geforce, I think they incorperate the work done first with the quadro's into the ge-force.

Well it wouldn't hurt to most a picture or two so we can take you seriously :wink: the majority of us aren't con artists

Quadros are (for the most part) basically over-priced Ge-forces with certain features enabled for rendering programs. They suck with games.

And the system that you were "showing-off" was so ridiculous, you were just asking for flames when you actually started defending it.

Sometimes we can be a little hard on newbies because most of us just hate it when people come in here and can only act like they know what they're talking about.

I'd say go with a quad core or dual core LGA 775 system, It's cheaper, and much simpler to setup, and can provide plenty of power. You can even OC it if you want.

And SLI-ed 8800GTX's currently can't be beat

just work with us a bit :wink:

Helping is what we're here for

Um, with everyone flaming him for his ridiculous purchase, and more so the fact that he thinks it will game well, you really should try to NOT slip up as you did. I refer in particular to this part:
"I'd say go with a quad core or dual core LGA 775 system, It's cheaper, and much simpler to setup, and can provide plenty of power. You can even OC it if you want."

Um, the P4 D is a dual core LGA 775 system 😛 I know, I know, you meant C2D, but still.
 
I tried to hijack this thread, I really did, Could've turned into a great watercooling discussion but Mommy let chips at the keyboard again and well...... :roll:

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Let's try again. We are having a discussion at another forum regarding watercooling the 8 series cards. Is there any real reviews out there comparing the different blocks? I have n MCW60 and the Swiftech heavy copper blocks that come with it and have gotten great performance. I am assuming that a GTX will run hotter than a GTS but by how much i don't know. Is the DD full coverage block that much better? Haven't seen many reviews.
 
Yeah, we're not telling you what to do with your money... We are simply stating that you made ignorant choices if your system is meant for gaming.. We're just trying to save you some money here. And yeah lets see these pictures. Quadros are not meant for gaming... google it
 
I bought the pentium d 950 before it came out, it is a confidential processor

Nice bro, so you saying you bought an ES processor. Im cracking up everytime this guy writes something. This topic is killing me.

This statement goes for Chips only!

I have the best news ever. I just saved up to buy a Ferrari to go to my job from monday to friday. Even thought I would only need probably a compact car, I want one of the most expensives cars in the world maybe because the sits are better and I will feel more comfortable. You know whats the best thing? I bought it just to drive to my job!. And YES! Because it is more expensive than others, it means it will be "more usefull" for every-day tasks.
 
Jesus this kid still doesn't understand does he? 8O :lol: Why would they spend money on a complete different job for geforce, I think they incorperate the work done first with the quadro's into the ge-force.

..... you really are ignorant! :trophy:

Ok, prove me wrong with some proof on how nvidia cards are made

You asked for it, so now I get to rape your eyes and lower your IQ with the amount of data I'm gonna give you.

Regardless of who builds a workstation VGA (ATI or Nvidia), these cards are never designed with the intent of gaming. To put this in perspective my 10 yr old GeForce 256 was able to outscore an FX1500 Quadro in one of the older 3DMark benches (forget which one it was about 5 yrs ago when that happened). But this is just perspective the following is hardcore data.

The 2 VGA's I'm going to be comparing are ASUS 7900GTX and the PNY FX5500 Quadro. Here are the specs for each (links will be provided to each website for reference):

7900GTX:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814121023

Interface: PCI-E x16
Core: G71 at 650mhz
Memory: 512mb GDDR3 256-bit interface at 56gb/s bandwith at 800mhz (1600mhz DDR)
PPL: 24
3D API: DX9 & Open GL 2.0
Max Res: 2560 x 1600
SLI enabled
$500 price tag
no specific driver set

FX 5500

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814133189
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVIDIA_Quadro
http://www2.pny.com/Nvidia-Quadro-FX-5500-PCIE-P1804C36.aspx

Interface: PCI-E x16
Core: G71 at 700mhz
Memory: 1gb GDDR2 256-bit interface at 64gb/s bandwith at 500mhz (1000mhz DDR)
PPL: 12
3D API: DX9 & Open GL 2.0
Max Res: 3840 x 2400
SLI enabled
$2400 price tag
application specific driver set

Now, just going by the numbers you can see that the quality of a frame is the focus of importance in the Quadro cards. The GeForce line is meant for gaming. Now if you can see that the cards have the same core, I'll clear up one of your mis-informations about the Quadro. Quadro's are loosely based on the GeForce cards. The reason I say this is for 2 reasons (large dose of IMHO comes with this):
a) the G71 equipped Geforce came out 1 yr before the G71 equipped Quadro's
b) some GeForce cards do well in CAD applications. This is not by design, rather this is due to "flukes" in how well the hardware works CAD style programs.

Also, Quadro's are designed to run off of the Open GL library rather than the DX library because DX is all about speed and GL is about quality. A CAD render at 2560 x 1600 on my 7900GTX takes about 4-5hrs to complete with all of the Quality settings cranked to max. However if I go to school and do it there on a FX1500 Quadro the render time goes down to 1-1.5hrs and my GTX is 4 times larger than that thing.

In lay mans terms if your worn out by now: The Quadro's are designed with an Open GL CAD application specific driver set and have been built from the ground up to render a single frame in extremely high quality within a reasonable time frame. The GeForce's are designed with DX specific driver set and are optimized for gaming with very generalized VGA architecture.

You wont be making any records in the 3DMark benches (although the Quadro will do nice in the batch and fill PPL/PXLS tests 😀 )

Also, you saying the P4D is nice is like saying the sun is cool to the touch. Here's an article chronicling the K8's rise to power over the P4:

http://www.cpuid.com/reviews/K8/index.php

Sad thing about that article is that its over 2 yrs old now.

Hope you save money on your next build.

SPARTAN-117 out.
 
generally, when someone posts the specs of a system he wants to build, it is for forum members to give their opinion about it.

Everyone here told you that your choice wasn't adapted to the way you use your computer (=gaming)

If you don't care about our advices... it just looks like you've posted just to show off : "hey, look at the very expensive computer I'm going to buy ! It is better than yours ! geforce are too cheap for me !"

So it is just some useless topic that exists just for you to show your e-penis, saying "I've got the biggest one !"

If you hoped everyone here would say something like "OMG, you have a Quadro Plex !!!!!", you were dreaming

Now, let merc14 turn this thread into a watercooling discussion :lol: ... it'll certainly be more interresting than your e-penis
 
Yeah, we're not telling you what to do with your money... We are simply stating that you made ignorant choices if your system is meant for gaming.. We're just trying to save you some money here. And yeah lets see these pictures. Quadros are not meant for gaming... google it


I don't know who the heck that made you truly believe that your setup is the best 8O , but if I know, I'll just shoot him to death :evil: . Everybody's telling you the truth and their opinion(s) and yet you just ignored them...but that's your choice :roll: ...IMO for USD8K, you could have 2 bad-@ss rig compared to what you've got in hand but :roll: :roll: :roll:
 
I think you have two options that will improve your life. Either:
1. You should become a graphics professional, in which case your bit of hardware will be nigh-on cutting edge.
2. You should sell the white elephant on Ebay and get a pimped-out gaming system with a 680i mobo, two 8800gtxs, a core2extreme etc.

Alternatively, you could move to Texas (if you're not there already), where most people won't notice that you're a buffoon. :evil:
 
I had a friend like you - keyword HAD - his parents gave him the money to buy a"l33t roxxors your soxxors gaming rig" - he bought some quadro with an amd 3200 single core CPU with some incredibly expensive ram and hard drives - it cost his parents $4900 NZ Dollars to buy and build - so i took my $1800 NZ Dollar Homebuilt PC and showed him what a mistake he made - the quadro could not play some game at all (the punisher and need for speed most wanted being 2) and any game he could run - ran like dog crap going uphill - where as my computer plays anything at max\damn well near max setting with 60+ FPS so he wasted $4900 on a pc that couldnt do what he wanted and i "wasted" $1800 on a computer that does everything i want and more

buy the damn quadro and the xeons - just don't come back bitching WHEN you have problems (btw is mummy and daddy paying for this "super gaming computer too?) :roll: :roll:
 
Other than name calling and childish remarks I don't see any real proof that geforce is better than quadro for gaming other than the cards are way more expensive. quadro fx-5500 cards sell on ebay for 1000 to 1200, the retail value is 2500, thats only what 400 more than 8800gtx and you get more ram. I have read in the past that quadro's play games with the doom 3 engine better does anyone have any benchmarks with the framerate.
Oh wow now you have me angry I paid for this not my parents!!! Unlike you people I don't live with my parents and on my own! You must find these boards fun to rip on people and remain immature jerks and don't grow up?
 
I will bet you $3000 with all these witnesses right in front of us that the quadro box you have choosen will loose to any 8800gtx system, doesn't even really have to be sli, at gaming, while the quadro will demolish the 8800gtx at video rendering and video editing and such. I have all these witnesses here, agree if you wish.

Also, that is not the most powerful cpu that intel makes, intel hasn't made any quad core xeons using the 800 strap, just because it has 16mb of l3 cache does not mean it is powerful, that will be only used for video editing, nothing can make use of anything beyond even 2 really, gaming tests have shown the difference from 2mb to 4mb is smaller than 10% for all games. most of the time 1-5%. I agree with the others you should have discussed this before purchasing anything.

What I want you do is find one other person here to support your thesis that these expensive 1gb ram quadros will beat an 8800gtx at gaming. Once you have done so, I will be content, I know you won't find any proof because no one will ever bother using a quadro for gaming, so unless you give us fps using sli 8800gtxs, and say even 4 quadros in sli and prove it yourself that quadros are better for games, then I'll be happy. Your 3d-mark scores may be higher, but those will be meaningless if you can't game at all
I will up the anty and say that my pc will kick his arse in any game that we play. It's like seeing a 4x4 truck with a huge lift and have road tires on 24" rims. What is its purpose? :roll:
 
quake 4 doom 3
Here are some benchmarks that proves the fx-4500 is better than the ati x1900 xt
congradulations, but the 8800gtx gets roughly twice the fps the x1900 does, especially if you overclock it or sli ityeah, two games that he can play. Whopty freaking doo. I think I'm going to go play bf2142 now. Good luck playing that on your 1337 rig there. :lol: