Question What hardware parts for gaming rig?

[Sanic]

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I’m looking to build an everything PC with a main focus on 1440p gaming and I would like your help to make sure I’m getting the most cost to performance, future-resisting and good looking with at least some RGB for a flexible budget of $2k.

I’ve put a lot of research behind mostly every component especially the GPU and RAM. Why I choose the XFX is because I found an eBay to Amazon price between $750-$860 and unlike all other brands of 6800XT’s, it’s the only one with 41.47 TFlops of Floating-Point performance over all the rest at 21.74, but I don’t fully understand what differences that would make while gaming.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LbHBqm

The CPU could be over priced and it’s not as fast core or boost as it’s older gen, however the 96mb of L3 cache would make a huge differences for games that can use it (which I’m not sure which ones would)

The Ram I know is a lot faster than my current 7 year old rig but it caps out when I am multi tasking and some games with heavy mods too. Want lower timings and faster speed that wasn’t going to set my wallet on fire so I selected in the non-rgb even know I really wanted it haha

I chose the m.2 because if it’s very high read/write time of 8000 m/s, I’m not sure if the mobo has a heat sink or a fan to cool it if needed, and I know it doesn’t help with fps, but I load massive game worlds so it is something that would help me.

not sure if that’s a good monitor but it was recommended by a tech YouTuber and seems legit with 1m/s. Couldn’t find anything cheaper for 240htz at 1440p; even know I prefer IPS panel over VA.

not sure if that’s a good mobo but I wanted to make sure I had pcie4. Same for AIO, I’ve never water cooled before.

i would like to try overclocking a little so I got a more power 850w PSU as the gpu manufacturer req wanted 750w, what do you think?

Tech specs for GPU: https://www.xfxforce.com/shop/xfx-amd-radeon-tm-rx-6800xt-16gb-gddr6-merc-319

GPU comparison:
https://versus.com/en/amd-radeon-rx...on-rx-6800-xt-vs-xfx-radeon-rx-6800-xt-gaming

Please let me know what you think and any suggestions you have would be appreciated!

 

[Why_Me]

Change your RAM to 2x16GB.

 

[CountMike]

Hello PC Gurus!

I’m looking to build an everything PC with a main focus on 1440p gaming and I would like your help to make sure I’m getting the most cost to performance, future-proofing and good looking with at least some RGB for a flexible budget of $2k.

I’ve put a lot of research behind mostly every component especially the GPU and RAM. Why I choose the XFX is because I found an eBay to Amazon price between $750-$860 and unlike all other brands of 6800XT’s, it’s the only one with 41.47 TFlops of Floating-Point performance over all the rest at 21.74, but I don’t fully understand what differences that would make while gaming.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JHKWtn

The CPU could be over priced and it’s not as fast core or boost as it’s older gen, however the 96mb of L3 cache would make a huge differences for games that can use it (which I’m not sure which ones would)

The Ram I know is a lot faster than my current 7 year old rig but it caps out when I am multi tasking and some games with heavy mods too. Want lower timings and faster speed that wasn’t going to set my wallet on fire so I selected in the non-rgb even know I really wanted it haha

I chose the m.2 becuase if it’s very high read/write time of 8000 m/s, I’m not sure if the mobo has a heat sink or a fan to cool it if needed, and I know it doesn’t help with fps, but I load massive game worlds so it is something that would help me.

not sure if that’s a good monitor but it was recommended by a tech YouTuber and seems legit with 1m/s. Couldn’t find anything cheaper for 240htz at 1440p; even know I prefer IPS panel over VA.

not sure if that’s a good mobo but I wanted to make sure I had pcie4. Same for AIO, I’ve never water cooled before.

i would like to try overclocking a little so I got a more power 850w PSU as the gpu manufacturer req wanted 750w, what do you think?

Tech specs for GPU: https://www.xfxforce.com/shop/xfx-amd-radeon-tm-rx-6800xt-16gb-gddr6-merc-319

GPU comparison:
https://versus.com/en/amd-radeon-rx...on-rx-6800-xt-vs-xfx-radeon-rx-6800-xt-gaming

Please let me know what you think and any suggestions you have would be appreciated!

Looks god except instead of 2 kits of RAM, get one kit of 4x8GB or 2x16GB. Two kits of even same RAM are not guaranteed to work well together.

 

[Phaaze88]

Delete the concept of futureproof - you will always lose that game. Performance per dollar/currency can be done.

My 2 cents:
1)The 5800X 3D is a good investment if you are already on AM4. If you are not, then it's passable... then again, it depends on your upgrade intervals.
If you replace parts around 5 years or more, then it's probably fine, since by that time, you'll be doing a cpu and mobo overhaul anyway. [And maybe even ram, but that's likely a stretch.]
If every 2-3 years, then skip the 3D for Intel's 12400, 12600, and 12700, with a B600 series motherboard. Z-series boards and K cpus don't have much going for them this generation.
In that time frame, you could drop in a 13000(or whatever Intel's going to call them).

2)AIOs are not cost effective. The retail price is deceptive, even on the more affordable ones. They get you in cost over time.
Have a secondary cooler - preferably air - on hand for troubleshooting, and for when a pump failure happens.
Pump failures can happen from under a year to... I think 8(maybe 9?) years is the longest I've heard someone go on one, but it's not common at all. Average is somewhere in the middle, but sometimes, crap just happens even on models that have been highly praised.

3)Those 2 sets of 2x 8GBs of ram is a dice roll. Sets are guaranteed to work as sold.
Get a single set of 4x 8GB, or a set of 2x 16GB.

4)Don't really need bigger than a 500/512GB drive for an OS only drive, and could allocate the difference somewhere else, or keep it.
Ignore that numerical mumbo-jumbo, it's marketing to reel in the unawares to get them to waste money. A SATA 3 SSD does everything one needs for games - a NVMe adds nothing more:

Spoiler

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YoRKQy-UO4

FYI: PCIe Gen 4 has no practical benefits to gaming, except for the gimped 5500XT and 6500XT. It is not a necessity otherwise. What benefits from it - and the NVMes for that matter - are productivity applications.

5)Went a little cheap on the psu quality, but it might work: https://forums.tomshardware.com/thr...er-list-rev-14-8-final-update-jul-21.3624094/ (Tier B, low priority units)
"[1] Units experiencing tripping issues with high transient power draw GPUs like AMD Vega, 6900 XT and nVidia RTX3080 / 3080 Ti / 3090."
6800XT isn't mentioned there, that's why I said might. I suggest keeping overclocking off the table.

 

[Sanic]

Looks god except instead of 2 kits of RAM, get one kit of 4x8GB or 2x16GB. Two kits of even same RAM are not guaranteed to work well together.

I didn’t know that and it was cheaper for the 2 separate, but yes I’ll make that change. I heard it’s not good to go 2x16 cuz you’re not guaranteed dual ranked with the silicone lottery, so it’s better to get 4x8gb.

thanks!

 

[CountMike]

I didn’t know that and it was cheaper for the 2 separate, but yes I’ll make that change. I heard it’s not good to go 2x16 cuz you’re not guaranteed dual ranked with the silicone library so it’s better to get 4x8gb.

thanks!

That's OK too, 5000 series Ryzen doesn't mind using both IMC channels and there are reports of even gaining some performance.

 

[Sanic]

Change your RAM to 2x16GB.

I heard you can end up with single channel with 2x16 where as 4x8 guarantees dual channel?

 

[Why_Me]

I heard you can end up with single channel with 2x16 where as 4x8 guarantees dual channel?

I've never heard that before.

 

[Phaaze88]

I heard you can end up with single channel with 2x16 where as 4x8 guarantees dual channel?

I've never heard that before.

If for some reason one installs both sticks in A1 + A2, or B1 + B2...

 

[drivinfast247]

I heard you can end up with single channel with 2x16 where as 4x8 guarantees dual channel?

You heard wrong.

 

[Sanic]

You heard wrong.

It was a 150k subs youtuber PC Builder haha.

 

[Sanic]

* Answered please continue on*

Ryzen 5800x w/ 6750 XT build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mdGnpH

vs.

Ryzen 5800X3D w/ 6800XT build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vY2b2m


What would be superior considering price to performance for 1440p gaming? (potentially $350 difference between the two)

 

[hotaru.hino]

The second system is better overall, so that one. Especially when you consider the price between the two are within spitting distance of each other (at least at the time of this post)

EDIT: I just realized the first system still has a 6800 XT and both have different RAM.

 

[punkncat]

Technically, the higher you go in resolution, the more of the load that is put onto the GPU as opposed to the CPU. I would consider whichever one has the more powerful GPU and perhaps even a downgrade in CPU if such would bump you up a level for said.

 

[Sanic]

The second system is better overall, so that one. Especially when you consider the price between the two are within spitting distance of each other (at least at the time of this post)

EDIT: I just realized the first system still has a 6800 XT and both have different RAM.

I fixed it, do you see it now?

 

[Why_Me]

Another option to consider.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144531
MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 $129.99

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B660M-A-DDR4

or ...

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144522
MSI MAG B660M MORTAR WIFI DDR4 $159.99

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B660M-MORTAR-WIFI-DDR4

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-12700f-core-i7-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118359
Intel Core i7-12700F $312.99 + $10 off w/ promo code EDLBSA745

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...2700f-processor-25m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

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Today we have a combo review of all-new Intel hardware, our first look at the affordable Intel B660 platform, the non-K Core i7-12700 and Intel's latest box...

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https://www.amazon.com/Rev-B-Cooler-LGA1700-LGA1151-Towers/dp/B09NZGH4RD/
Scythe Fuma 2 Rev.B CPU Cooler $65.99

https://www.scytheus.com/fuma2-rev-b

 

[hotaru.hino]

I fixed it, do you see it now?

Yes. Still think the second option is better overall if you can afford it. However as a third option, take the 5800X3D and the 6750 XT together.

You could also consider a 12th gen Intel system, but the only caveat is you need to be on Windows 11 to make the most of it.

 

[Sanic]

Yes. Still think the second option is better overall if you can afford it. However as a third option, take the 5800X3D and the 6750 XT together.

You could also consider a 12th gen Intel system, but the only caveat is you need to be on Windows 11 to make the most of it.

Above they are saying to go cheaper on the CPU and spend more on the GPU, I don't know how much performance gain the 5800X over the 5800X3D As it does have slightly lower core clock speeds but has alot more L3 cache; not sure how viable that is in actual FPS/performance over the latter.

I am open to intel, but the price jumps up a bit and seemingly about the same gaming performance?

 

[mdd1963]

The 6800XT seems about ~10-15% faster than the 6750XT at 1440P...(assuming system equipped with 6800XT is not hindered via slower or inadequate RAM clocks/amounts, a prebuild's TDP /boost duration limits, etc..)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg-TcVrh8rA&t=355s


Naturally , if the price difference (in GPU alone) was more than 10-15% to jump to the 6800XT, the 6750XT might be a better value... (What you don't want is 30% higher GPU price for 10% more performance (there are worse price jump/performance ratios once examining the 3090/3090 Ti , which is what I call being ...Nvidia'd!

(FYI, the 5800X3D, by virtue of it's large cache size, is a big gaming jump over the 5800X, despite the former's lower clock speeds, but, many of these gains are only realized with the fastest GPUs, and, will be less significant when paired with a 6800XT vice paired with a 6900XT or 3090))

 

[drivinfast247]

It was a 150k subs youtuber PC Builder haha.

I'm not surprised.

 

[Lafong]

What's your primary reason for choosing liquid cooling?

Where are you buying Windows 11 for 20 dollars?

 

[Sanic]

What's your primary reason for choosing liquid cooling?

Where are you buying Windows 11 for 20 dollars?

Figured long game play or heavy loads would benifit from the water cooling aio more that typical air cooling fans?
I found CD keys for it: https://www.vip-scdkey.com/software/p202110081006586021.html

 

[Why_Me]

Hello everyone,

I was wondering what your thoughts are on my new gaming build. I am aiming for 1440p gaming 144hz+ and I'm trying to keep my budget close to $1800 USD, but a little flexible.

Keeping the GPU, is it possible to cheapen up this build without loss to performance? Don't mind if its Intel or AMD either and RGB is nice, but not necessary.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/77WKqm

Thank you!

You want a 4-pin rear exhaust fan for that case so it isn't a hotbox.

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Cooling-120mm-Pressure-optimised-ACFAN00170A/dp/B07ZZ8BLPR/

 

[Lafong]

"AIO" is a very broad category of varying quality, cost, and efficiency.

Did you pick that one at random?

If not random, why that one?

"Typical fans" is likewise very broad and non-specific. You certainly wouldn't need to consider whatever you call "typical".

You'll get various opinions on your source for Windows. I'll refrain.

Have you already decided that you will definitely overclock the CPU?

 

[Sanic]

"AIO" is a very broad category of varying quality, cost, and efficiency.

Did you pick that one at random?

If not random, why that one?

"Typical fans" is likewise very broad and non-specific. You certainly wouldn't need to consider whatever you call "typical".

You'll get various opinions on your source for Windows. I'll refrain.

Have you already decided that you will definitely overclock the CPU?

Understood, I choose that one since it seemed to have good reiews and it was one of the few under $100 options since I am trying to go high end budget build. If you know of an air cooler that is cheaper and does just a good of job at cooling then I'm all ears.

I do want to get my feet wet and try some overclocking for the first time, but as my current rig is: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JkmCLs with no overclocking.
I'm sure the stock settings will blow my current PC out of the water, but extra free performance is welcome too.