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I did a comparison on newegg and I was wondering if I should go with one of these? I want to get a good one so im in no rush (my conroe is due to be delivered any minute). I would like to get one in the coming days depending how my build is going (my first). I noticed the ones I chose are less than $400. Any of these good?

Build----->e6300 conroe Gygabyte DS3 corsair xms2 ddr2-533 (1.8v)
soundblaster x-fi XM 16xDVD-RW-R

still undecided--->hard drive----->video card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCompare.asp?SubCategory=48&CompareItemList=N82E16814131003%2CN82E16814102672%2CN82E16814131005%2CN82E16814102037
 
Game support for DirectX9 while last for a while if that is your worry. Support for DX8.1 cards lasted up until this year; Oblivion is one of the first games that I know of that dropped support for DX8.1. Sure, DX10 games will be coming out, but they will also be backwards compatible with DX9 cards.

However, if you want a DX10 card because they will provide raw performance boost then that's a different story.
 
I would go ahead with a X1900 card. The X1900XT is good, but careful shopping sometimes shows a XTX model for nearly the same price, making it a better choice.

As for DX10, that requires Vista, so unless you're going to change to Vista, one of those cards won't do you any good. Also, as pointed out, it will probably be at least a year until games start coming out that support or require DX10 after it comes out. The game makers are not going to turn their backs and ignore the millions of XP users. So you should be able to use a X1900 card for a ong time.
 
Vista wont work on the high end directx9 cards? Im curious because depending on my mood, I like to have the best technology and sometimes I wait.
 
Go for the X1900XT or XTX and forget about DX10.
It's almost like Y2K all over again. People paint it to seem that once DX10 makes its debut, all our DX9 cards will be rendered useless.
As I and many others have stated, DX10's API won't become the standard overnight (not necessarily over a year's time either). In truth, the jump from DX9 to DX10 isn't even as significant as the jump from DX8 to DX9. There will be backwards compatibility for the titles that are actually worth playing, I'm certain.

If you want your gadgets to have that much more of a glossy shine, sure ... wait for Vista and buy your DX10-compatible video card accordingly at that point.

I'm personally hoping to catch the X1950XTX in about a week. Release date is projected to fall between Aug. 23 - 27. However, the Inquirer reports that it has been pushed back to September 14. But the Inquirer is about as reliable as my grandmother's bladder. With my E6600 + ASUS P5W DH Deluxe en route to my door-step as we speak, I'd really have to bite my lip if I wanted the X1950XTX with the September release date.
 
With the incoming release of x1950 does this mean the x1900's will go down in price?

If I wanted to upgrade to Vista I have to have a directx10 card?
 
With the incoming release of x1950 does this mean the x1900's will go down in price?

If I wanted to upgrade to Vista I have to have a directx10 card?
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Yep, the X1900XT & XTX are already in the process of being marked down.

Nope, Vista will work fine with a DX9 card. However, certain features (unbeknownst to me) will only be utilized with the DX10 API. I'm fairly sure the DX10-only-features are pretty much visually exclusive.
 
MMMM Arbys roast beef sandwiches lol. I miss arbys, just like roy rodgers, they left some years ago. If I want Roy Rodgers I have to go to Penn Station and cross 34th St for last remaining Roys lol.

Anyway.........

Is 256mb and 512mb a difference? Should I go to 512mb for radeon card?

Actually I think I forgot to ask.....Who's better with games: ATI or NVidia.
Im still ticked off at NVidia, my Geforce card on my Alienware 51-m died after 2 years. My ATI card in my desktop has been flawless for years.
 
Vista will support both DX10 and DX9. Most games will support DX9 for at least 2 years. I just bought the X1900XTX to go with my Conroe machine. At some point, someone will come out with the first DX10 only game and when they do, I will upgrade, but until then, the X1900XTX allows me to BF2, CSS, and DDO with everything maxed out on my 19" sony Trinitron. $500 for a card for kick butt gaming for two years??? Yeah, it's worth it.
 
Vista wont work on the high end directx9 cards? Im curious because depending on my mood, I like to have the best technology and sometimes I wait.
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Vista will work fine on DX9 cards. Upgrading a DX9 card to DX10 will be possible in the sense that a DX8 card can be upgraded to DX9. Not all the features of DX10 will work on a DX9 card, but some will. Besides, as someone pointed out, it will be a least a year, probably more, before game makers start requiring DX10 to play thier games. They don't want to abandon millions of potential customers.
 
When Im playing games, I usually dont max out the screen size. Im content when its at 1024x768. I dont play first person shooters. Like I said, when Im playing The Sims 2 (OFB) Im happy with 1024x768. I like crystal clear pictures, great water effects aka lifelike. Should I still go for x1900?

Whose better ATI Radeon or NVidia?
 
The big advantage of the X1900 series is that you can have both HDR and AA at the same time. If the game doesn't support HDR, then there is little or no difference between an ATI X1900 or a Nvidia 7900. In the future, more games will probably come out that support HDR, so I think the X1900 series are a better choice.

At the resolutions that you name for gameplay, unless you want HDR and AA at the same time, its just a coin toss between ATI and Nividia in my opinion. In such a case, I'd shop for the best price
 
Go for the X1900XT or XTX and forget about DX10.
In truth, the jump from DX9 to DX10 isn't even as significant as the jump from DX8 to DX9. There will be backwards compatibility for the titles that are actually worth playing, I'm certain.
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Thats absolutely false from many points of view DX 10 is radicaly diferent than DX 9. Actualy their so diferent that you could hardly have the same engine code runing DX9 and DX10. The thing is the visual diference won't be very perceptible especialy for games also running on DX9 cards.

DX10 wil have a slow start that's true but it's adoption is expected to rapidly grow within a year time frame. It's also espected to have the fastest adoption rate of all DX versions oance the switch to Vista is made. And still considering to wait for a DX10 card now might be too much, there most certainly be a lot more than a year before DX10 cards are a comodity and without prohibitive prices.
 
Thats absolutely false from many points of view DX 10 is radicaly diferent than DX 9. Actualy their so diferent that you could hardly have the same engine code runing DX9 and DX10. The thing is the visual diference won't be very perceptible especialy for games also running on DX9 cards.

DX10 wil have a slow start that's true but it's adoption is expected to rapidly grow within a year time frame. It's also espected to have the fastest adoption rate of all DX versions oance the switch to Vista is made. And still considering to wait for a DX10 card now might be too much, there most certainly be a lot more than a year before DX10 cards are a comodity and without prohibitive prices.
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Hmmm.
When did I say DX10 and DX9 weren't different? When did I even seem to indicate they were somehow similar beyond the name?

Here's a quote from an article I read, "...the shift from DirectX 9 to 10 isn't going to be as large as that from 8.1 to 9..."
Link (bottom of page)

Read the article in full if you must.

I recognize that DX10 was a ground-up project and is thus considerably different than DX9. The jump from DX9 to DX10 isn't as significant however (in comparison from 8.1 to 9.0).


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