Which is better Celeron D or Pentium D 805 / P4 with HT

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Hello ,

Please i need to buy a new Pc but wich is better :
1) a Celeron D 3.33GHz or a Pentium D 805
2) a Celeron D 3.33GHz or a Pentium 4 with HT


PLease advise
 
The 805 dual core is better. You don't need hyperthreading with 2 cores to share your workload. Fry's has the 805 with ecs board for only $99.95 this weekend. The board uses agp 8x and has onboard video with ddr or ddr2 support (2 slots each). Not a bad deal.
 

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thaks all for your support but plz do u know where i can get a Built - To - Order core 2 Duo System . I will like to customize one myself as i am not too interested in a high end graphics or sound card . But is it possible to get one for $600 on the net .
 

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thaks all for your support but plz do u know where i can get a Built - To - Order core 2 Duo System . I will like to customize one myself as i am not too interested in a high end graphics or sound card . But is it possible to get one for $600 on the net .
Monarch Computer will build you a custom Core 2 Duo system. I didn't check the prices, but they're usually very reasonable.
 

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Hello ,

Please i need to buy a new Pc but wich is better :
1) a Celeron D 3.33GHz or a Pentium D 805
2) a Celeron D 3.33GHz or a Pentium 4 with HT


PLease advise
1 problem 2 threads?! :roll:

Celeron D is not dual core; it just has 256K cache instead of 128 a Celeron had and a 533 FSB instead of 400.
For ~$150 you will find an Athlon64 X2 3800+, can find the PEntiun D 805 for less but won't perform at X2 levels.
HT was just a 'pill' to make the P4 live a bit longer; it won't give you more than 20% increase in any case while dual cores give up to 85%+.

Stay far from Celerons if you want any performance.
 

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The 805 dual core is better. You don't need hyperthreading with 2 cores to share your workload. Fry's has the 805 with ecs board for only $99.95 this weekend. The board uses agp 8x and has onboard video with ddr or ddr2 support (2 slots each). Not a bad deal.
I think it depends on what he´s using it for and if he´ll overclock it or not. I read that the Celeron Ds (the Cedar Mill cores) overclock like crazy and even without extensive cooling. With 512kb l2 and a low fsb they are the oc´ers dream. I think they would perform better in games than a 805 - wich needs excessive cooling (thanks to its 90nm).

I´m really tempted to buy a Celeron 352 and clock the crap out of it, just to comprare it to my 820. I´ve a gut feeling that it´ll beat the dual core if it comes to games. 8O
 

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The 805 dual core is better. You don't need hyperthreading with 2 cores to share your workload. Fry's has the 805 with ecs board for only $99.95 this weekend. The board uses agp 8x and has onboard video with ddr or ddr2 support (2 slots each). Not a bad deal.
I think it depends on what he´s using it for and if he´ll overclock it or not. I read that the Celeron Ds (the Cedar Mill cores) overclock like crazy and even without extensive cooling. With 512kb l2 and a low fsb they are the oc´ers dream. I think they would perform better in games than a 805 - wich needs excessive cooling (thanks to its 90nm).

I´m really tempted to buy a Celeron 352 and clock the crap out of it, just to comprare it to my 820. I´ve a gut feeling that it´ll beat the dual core if it comes to games. 8O

What you say there is true, if he wants to game, GET THE CELERON D!! They have come a loooong way since the first p4 based Celerons. The new ones are fantastic overclockers. I know someone (a fairly amateur overclocker) who has a Celeron D356 @ 4.2 with stock cooling!
 

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Go for Core Duo 2 (Dual Core), if thats no possible then
Go for Athlon X2 (Dual Core), if thats not possible then
Go for Athlon 64 (Single Core), if thats not possible then
Go for Sempron (Single Core) or Celeron D (Single Core).
 

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What you say there is true, if he wants to game, GET THE CELERON D!! They have come a loooong way since the first p4 based Celerons. The new ones are fantastic overclockers. I know someone (a fairly amateur overclocker) who has a Celeron D356 @ 4.2 with stock cooling!
Yes, the newest Celeron Ds (those on 65nm with 512K cache) are good enough; basically they're old P4s. On the ther hand, the sempron 3200+ is also a great value with around $65. Getting it to 2.7G on stock is 50% OC while 4.2G is still 26% of the CD 356. Socket 754 semprons were not good @ OCing given the 130nm process but the AM2 ones are sometimes better than athlons with the cooler temps.
 

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What you say there is true, if he wants to game, GET THE CELERON D!! They have come a loooong way since the first p4 based Celerons. The new ones are fantastic overclockers. I know someone (a fairly amateur overclocker) who has a Celeron D356 @ 4.2 with stock cooling!
Yes, the newest Celeron Ds (those on 65nm with 512K cache) are good enough; basically they're old P4s. On the ther hand, the sempron 3200+ is also a great value with around $65. Getting it to 2.7G on stock is 50% OC while 4.2G is still 26% of the CD 356. Socket 754 semprons were not good @ OCing given the 130nm process but the AM2 ones are sometimes better than athlons with the cooler temps.

The new Celerons arent like old P4s, they have 30 instruction pipelines (i think that's what they're called) , the Northwood (the one with 512k Cache) had 20. It was a more efficient architecture than Prescott (which the new Celerons are based on).

But as you said, a Sempron would also be a great idea! Or if he could afford the $100 or so for a 3200+.
 

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