Why Apple Fans Hate Tech Reporters

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Didn't you know?
Apple invented the fanboy.
Ignore that fanboys existed before Apple, Apple perfected it so now they have the trademark on all fanboys.
So from now on, if you say fanboy it is a de facto assumtion that the person in question is Apple and all others are just copying them.

/irony (as if fanboys understand what that is)
 
[citation][nom]hemelskonijn[/nom]The best part about this piece is that it supports itself with the comment section.You know that in some way thats both funny and sad, its a bitter sweet ignorance that seems to be key in posting a reply to any post about any subject on toms but reading the comments here really kicks it up to a whole new level.[/citation]

So you're implying that nobody reading thg is knowledable in what they're posting on? That's possibly the most far fetched claim I've read on this site since I stopped reading demonhorde665's posts.
 
" All Apple has done is made a nice little dumbed down operating system for noobs ahem i mean end users. "
How is Mac OSX dumnb down? Who takse pride in paying $600 to $1500 for a computer because its difficult to use?
 
neiroatopelcc:

No i am claiming people don't comment on the actual article but rather spew there opinions whether it fits or not.
Just count the amount of post that are either pro or con macs and then realize that kind of behavior was the subject of this article not the superiority or inferiority of macs or pc's.
 
Good article.

Now the disturbing part. Our leaders know this is true too. You will find that the arguments they make and the way they make them are not about turning people to their point of view, but ensuring the people already loyal do not have their point of view turned.

This is a problem when they are blatantly wrong on a provable point. :)
 
[citation][nom]hemelskonijn[/nom]neiroatopelcc:No i am claiming people don't comment on the actual article but rather spew there opinions whether it fits or not.Just count the amount of post that are either pro or con macs and then realize that kind of behavior was the subject of this article not the superiority or inferiority of macs or pc's.[/citation]

So you're saying the comments shouldn't be used to voice ones opinion on the matter, but solely for reporting on the article itself? like pointing out that there's a comma missing, but ignoring anything associated with the article that isn't mentioned?

This section's talkback - users talk back. I think you got the point of the comments section all wrong.
 
explain?

Far as I can tell, people in general agree that there's a place for amd, nvidia and intel - even for igp there's a place. I don't believe the amd fanboys outweigh the intel fanboys, or those with no particular preference. At least that's not what the forums indicate.
 
I don't think there are even a lot of Apple fans left here. As soon as Apple is mentioned, it's all the PC users and those that hate all things Apple, who start frothing at the mouth. There is a lot of bile coming from that camp.

I have both a Vista Laptop and a Macbook Pro at home. Who the hell cares? Use what ever you like to use for whatever applications it is most applicable for.
 
Is this for real? This is something that I would expect a high-school student to write. The conclusions drawn are absurd.

First, how can one make the association between the behavior of students who watch "news reels" to consumers who own a product? The news is only available through the media, the consumer product is actually something that the individual uses on a daily basis. The massacre was a horrendous act and most likely had an emotional effect on the students who were most likely associated with the area as suggested by the article. Hence, defense mechanisms would come into play. Yet, the 'journalists' here think that those who own Apple products have something in common with those who watch humans of their ethnic origin massacred.

The 2 journalists who wrote this piece also seem to know nothing about the dynamics of consumer brand loyalty. You want to see real fanaticism? Look at the Chevy vs. Ford fans, BMW vs. Benz fans, etc. It is everywhere. Windows fans, nVidia fans, AMD fans, etc. It would have been more appropriate to compare the study with American sports fans,but even then it would not have been appropriate...how can you equate the slaughter of humans to leisure or mp3 players...I guess only TH can. To compare human reaction to humans being killed to brand ownership is quite a leap of faith.

The two authors really blew it when they classified Apple fanatics with abortion partisans. This is a bit extreme. When was the last time an Apple fanatic called for the killing of doctors, bombed a clinic, or shot a doctor? This is clearly an example of media sensationalism, and journalistic irresponsibility. Why not draw some associations between Apple fanatics and the Khmer Rogue?

You ask: "Why are Mac fans so quick to see bias everywhere?" Are you two that naive to think that this type of behavior only occurs with Apple consumers? Wake-up...there is bias everywhere. The only thing that I can figure is that you two are doing some flaming, and/or trying to get on the good side of all of the Windows folks that you alienated by posting your Apple articles. Come on...show some balls and practice responsible journalism.

 
Again I will say it was a good article a little long yes. But to the one that said how can you call Apple an MONOPOLY,think about it for a second. Apple likes to have control of everything Apple related from start to finish. They tell you this is the hardware you will use it in a way that we deem fit,oh & you only have a few options for that hardware as we think it is better for the end user. They also try to tell you what you should have on your shiny new Mac product god forbid you want to purchase any type of software that they deem unfit.

Those that are in the Apple fold will try to explain away any points I have made here but the rest of us know what Apple is doing because we are looking in from the outside & have clear minds & see Apple for what it really is. Apple is a monopoly or at least that is what it is trying to become & given a chance they will succeed in that.

I also find it funny how Steve Jobs talks down about Microsoft & windows but at the same time allows people to run bootcamp to install windows on a Mac product,is this not called trying to have your cake & eat it too. I also find it funny that a Mac user will Bash windows & microsoft to the ends of the earth but when they get a shiny new Mac they install windows on that Mac. If you hate windows so much then don't use it if your Max OS is the holy grail of all OS's,why do you need to install a OS you say you hate so much. Thats right because Windows runs pretty much everything out there that was coded for it & on the Mac side there are a lot less program options,if this Mac OS is so great then why don't more dev's make programs for it.

As Apples users you always say everyone copies Apple well people it is called moving forward everything changes & sometimes different products & ideas look somewhat similar get over it already,Apple is not the only company out there that has people in it that has ideas. Oh & another thing Apple has done its fair share of taking other peoples idea as well & calling those idea their own,they even put a patent on it so no one else can ever use it again. So many ideas that people have come up with & companies were using have been pt to a stand still because of the way Apple does business,like I said they take someones idea change it just enough so they do not get called on it & patent it end of idea or product for everyone else,& if someone else tries to use that again in another product law suit time. This is a Great & almighty Apple all of us non Apple users see & keep hearing about,maybe for those that use Apple products it is time to take the blinders off & really take a look at the company you love so much. Yes they make some fairly nifty products but it is the rest of the company most non mac users hate so much.

Oh & to make this even longer sorry for the long post. I work in a computer store I fix & sell computers. I fixed a ladies Dell she was happy & then said,oh I only have to put up with this Dell for another couple months because I am getting a iPad from Apple & it will do everyting & more that my Dell can not. I was like thinking HUH!! what are you on lady the iPad is not a full computer it will not do half the stuff your Intel core 2 duo setup will do,I never tried to hard to correct her because she seemed really set on doing it. This leads me to my point of this paragraph Apple is a good marketing machine they will hide the facts & exploit other facts. That is the whole idea of marketing but the way Apple does it is really stretching things,I mean people actually think a product like the iPad is a full fledged computer & can replace things like a dual core system etc etc etc.

Thanks
JC
 
People erroneously call Apple a monopoly when it clearly is not. A monopoly exists when there is only one seller of a commodity. Clearly there are many PC vendors out there. Apple does control the Mac OS, and it is their right to sell it as they wish. Apple has chosen to make the Mac experience one that includes both the hardware and software. Clearly, Microsoft could have done the same had they wished but they chose a different route. Besides, if Apple was a monopoly don't you think anti-trust laws would kick into place?

Rocky1234, you are wrong in assuming that all Mac users put Windows on their computers. You talk as if the majority of Mac owners do it...hate to let you down, but there are not that many user that use both OS X and Win on the same box. You talk like you are above Apple users, and that Apple users are blinded. You appear to be delusional...you talk about the "rest of the company" that most non-Mac users hate...what is that you are talking about? A lot of other firms use Apple ideas, and vice-versa. Nothing wrong with that, but Apple does have more than it's share of innovative ideas on the market place. Just look at it's market capital.

Sure people may think the iPad is a full fledged computer, but people also think there will be 'death panels,' the President is not an 'American,' that 'liberalism = socialism,' etc. Welcome to America. Nobody ever said that all American's are smart.
 
"A monopoly exists when there is only one seller of a commodity"

Well in that same sense then MS is not a monopoly either if you look at it that way. MS makes the OS & sells it to the many,Apple does the same thing. People come down on MS for trying to include features & functions into a already great OS,but no one comes down on Apple for doing the same thing. Yes they have a different business model but business is business no matter how you look at it. If one company has to go by strict guide lines then so should all of the others Apple included.

I think most do not like Apple because maybe we think they get away with to much in the business world,it almost seems as if they are handed a different play book.

"Apple does control the Mac OS, and it is their right to sell it as they wish."

This can also refer to my above paragraph,you said yourself Apple does control the Mac OS,and it is tier right to sell it as they wish. I guess then that when others like MS try to do the same thing maybe everyone should think the same way,but that is not the case now is it. Hey I am just using your own words here.

"Rocky1234, you are wrong in assuming that all Mac users put Windows on their computers. You talk as if the majority of Mac owners do it...hate to let you down, but there are not that many user that use both OS X and Win on the same box."

Sorry to inform you but just because you do not do it or any of your Mac friends does not mean the whole world does not. I never said every Mac user did or does but the numbers are pretty high,I see it everyday in my work as I repair computers,& now that there are a lot of Windows installs on a lot of modern Macs I even repair the issues in those as well.

"You talk like you are above Apple users, and that Apple users are blinded. You appear to be delusional"

No I am not above a Mac user I do admit that I know more than most about computer since it is my job to know things about them,but anyone in the industry will know more than most normal everyday users that is what we are trained for. Yes I do think a lot of Apple users are blinded by the shiny boxes or the cute hand held devices but that is just my opinion,I see it almost everyday in my work place,most Apple users that come into our store let you know right off the bat that they use a mac (which is good) but they go farther & start dissing everything PC not all of them but 7 out of 10 will. Sorry that is just what I see going on & god forbid if you disagree with them if they state a point about PC's & they are clearly misinformed & you try to correct them. I had one woman call me a asshole just because I corrected her,she stormed out of the store. All I said was no maam PC's do not run slower than a Apple if they have the same hardware inside,she said the Mac OS is extremely fast & has had features in it 15 years that windows now has just got put into Windows 7. I said oh really & what would those 15 year old features be,she could not answer that. She could not answer that because she most likely read it somewhere on a website that was pro Mac. I stated to her that even Windows XP when released was ahead of the Mac OS at that time,thats when she called me a asshole & said I clearly was a PC fanboy & that I didn't know anything about computers. I replied well ummm those papers on the wall with my name onit say differently & that unlike most I have been in the computer industry since thew 8086 days so I would have to disagree with you on that. she turned & said well you know nothing about Macs because if you did you would know they simply are better than a PC in everyway I am like ok how so maam. Again she could not answer. I told her you do realize that the term PC mean "personal Computer" right? So you also know that a Apple is in a sense a PC "Personal Computer" so a Mac & PC share alot of the same hardware & pretty much work on the same software principal right. She told me no they don't & no a Mac is not a Personal Computer it is a MAC!!!(she screamed that to me),all I said was whatever maam if that makes you sleep at night I can not & will not argue the point any farther.

She called me a asshole again & asked to see my manager I told her just a second,went to the back & came back out & asked her how could I help her(as I am the manager/boss). She told me I was asshole again & left. Maybe I was a bit of one I tried to be as nice as I could be to her but I am sorry when someone is wrong & know it that is pretty messed up.

Sorry again for the long post & yes the last part about the woman was a rant sorry about that. I was just trying to show what I see a lot of going on around me & being that I work in a public job I see it a lot from both sides,but a lot more from the Apple side. I do not know why this is the way it is but it is for sure.
 
OMG sorry guys I just looked at my post the one paragraph is extremely long & hard to read hope those that make it to page 4 of this comments section can get through it...lol
 
[citation][nom]False_Dmitry_II[/nom]When saying a select few he's talking about the actually very small percentage of people who register and/or comment at all.[/citation]
Yeah but what he doesn't realize is that we're a sample of a larger pool.

"It's only those bastards who are commenting and/or voting! Everyone else sees things differently."

Also he tends to kneejerk react. "Fine. You don't like Apple articles? How about a special way to view the news, just for you!"

Several commenters pointed out that what they really wanted was some kind of coverage of competing products, to balance things out. I understand news comes in waves, however, so I usually just ride out the Apple hype storm and let things cool off. The media will eventually stop humping the iPad.

(Although my friend's wife will probably continue to point out cool things the iPad can do, that other devices have already done for years...)
 
The problem here is the concept that a few, vocal, extremist individuals represent an entire group.
People like the ones described don't represent all, or even most, Mac owners; Just like fundamentalist Moslems who strap bombs to themselves don't represent all followers of Islam, and fundamentalist Christians who picket the funerals of gay people don't represent all Christians.

Those are just the Fundamentalist Mac users. :)

BTW- I have a Mac and an iPhone, and I think they are great.
I also have a Windows PC, and a Vista Media Center PC attached to the TV.
I prefer OSX to WIndows, but there are good and bad points about both.
For example, having a separate menu bar per window is far more intuitive than just one menu bar on the desktop like Mac has, but the Mac handles USB drives, and ejecting them, far better.
 


Which is all well and good. They provide the product, they can dictate how it is used. Strictly speaking I was incorrect earlier saying that Apple are not a monopoly - they are - but over a small range of their own products. They can't force you to use their product. If you say that Apple abuses its monopoly over its own products then you also imply that Sony abuses its monopoly on the PS3, or Microsoft the 360, or Nintendo the Wii. These products are solely owned by these companies and to expect, say, Nintendo to have some control over how Microsoft dictates the use of the 360 would be a bizarre point of view.

Abuse of a monopoly position occurs when your influence extends beyond the limits of your own products, or to a point where people are forced to use those products (for example, I am essentially forced to use MS software at university). This is what Microsoft do when throwing their weight around in standards body meetings and by deliberately breaking cross-compatibility with other software and is something that Apple is in no position to do due to their relatively small market share. I have no problem with Microsoft dictating how I should use Windows. I don't need to use Windows (but I do). I have a problem when Microsoft pushes competing, and sometimes superior, standards out of the weigh to fill the void with their own.
 
[citation][nom]shin0bi272[/nom]The only issue I had with this article is that there was no fox news in 1982 so we really cant say that the news that was shown to the students was unbiased. When you compare and contrast fox news with its center right stance on most issues with say cnn or msnbc with its far left (i.e. chris matthews, keith olberman, etc etc) you can see how biased the older networks are. So saying that the study they did used an unbiased source is sort of ludicrous but understandable. Maybe they should redo the study today and use more sources. They could include pro and anti israel blogs, fox news, msnbc, conservative and liberal talk radio, the new york times and the wall street journal. I doubt the outcome would be any different but it would still be cool to see.[/citation]

LOL. So Fox News is "center right" and the older networks are "far left" huh? There is some bias for you right there. I'm sorry, but Fox is not anywhere close to the middle. Any station that sucks up to Ann Coulter and her love to hate speech, is running as far right as it can from the middle.
 
The days of analytical thought are dead (Starting to think they never existed). Welcome to the Age of Marketing, where factions of religion have been replaced with competitive brands. The result is still the same.....misunderstanding and war.
 
One that is "Fanatic" about anything, is not in his sane mind. It is one thing to admire someone or something, than becoming obsessed over someone or something. "Fanaticism = Unstable state of mind".

It all comes down to one's personal choices. I've been using PC's ever since the 80286 days, I've never had complaints about learning something new ("It's to hard" ; "I don't have the time to spend on learning this system or that system" ; "I have more important things to do than just try and figure this operating system" and etc.), without the motivation to try and experience as much as possible before dying, non of anything we have to day would of been possible.

It's "Trial and Error" that pushes the envelope of evolution one step at a time forward.

Mac owners buy them for a many reasons, either because they're to lazy to learn something new (about it and how it operates), either because they need a system that could start within seconds and let them express their creativity right away (Almost "Right away"), either because they need to show the rest of the world that they've got status (Money to spend on left and right as if it wasn't a concern to them), either just because they want to try and see what are the other alternatives to a "Windows PC" (The correct thing to say would rather be "PC running a Microsoft Windows Operating system", Microsoft does not manufacture, neither assembles, computers and sells them) or it could be any other reason.

Bottom line is, personal computers have evolved over the years (all thanks to competition), they've evolved so well over the years, that Apple decided to use those components in their systems.

Given a scenario of where "Only Apple" computers exist in a world like ours, evolution would be accessible only for the wealthy ones, thanks to "Force Major" that this, isn't the case.
 
Apple vs. PC helps Tom's hit count. Increased hit count is what Tom's advertisers like to see ... that's why you see so many articles. You can generate the same hit count with a Topic like "GOD is a mental disorder for human minds". Majority of people just can't seem to open their minds.

What I see over and over and over, are PC/Windows users bashing Apple without even owning an Apple product/computer. So what comes out of these "brand religious" Windows fanboys is information that is just completely wrong and inaccurate (hmmmm, sounds just like the Catholic church).

And these are the same people that post endless rants about why nVidia is better than ATI (or visa-versa), or why AMD is better than Intel (or visa-versa), or why Asus is better than Gigabyte. Most of the people bashing one or the other often don't have real world experience with both (and in some cases neither) -- they're just a one sided fanboy fanatic trying to justify why his/her decision to buy XYZ brand is so much better.

If you tossed out all the Tom's fanboys, Tom's would be in serious trouble for hit counts. Why do you think Reality TV shows are so popular, because people like to see the drama, oh the drama, more drama (they don't need to know it's all scripted, shake the camera a little and viola ... we have reality TV). That's what Tom's is all about.

 
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