Will X2 939 3800+ be faster than CONROE 1.86 GHZ

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Fortunately for the Intel fanboys No.
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Fortunately, does not make any diference for the non-fanboys. And fortunately it makes PAIN IN THE A$$ for the AMD fanboys like you.

But don't let that stop you because there are plenty of Intel chips that it is faster than.
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and more expencive than.
 
Fortunately for the Intel fanboys No.
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Fortunately, does not make any diference for the non-fanboys. And fortunately it makes PAIN IN THE A$$ for the AMD fanboys like you.

But don't let that stop you because there are plenty of Intel chips that it is faster than.
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and more expencive than.


Just because you live in a cave outside Bitola, I'll forgive your misspelling of EXPENSIVE.


He should still go for a 3800+ or a 4200+. It will be enough for games though not for bragging rights.
 
Bragging rights is when youve bought something very exclusive and very expensive not when youve bought something inferior for more/same money.
 
That's true, but consider the price of a Conroe motherboard vs. a 939 or AM2 board. Sure the CPU itself is priced the same or better, but when your motherboard is $200+ the small savings on the CPU is no longer relevant.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813121016
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131025
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Then factor in that AM2 requires the best DDR2 money can buy, to perform decently(more money), whereas Conroe doesn't.
 
Answer for stock speed: NO.

Answer after overclock: Probably NOT. Every preview I've seen show very good overclocking potential for CONROE and I wouldn't be surprise to see this 1,86GHZ baby overclock like heaven (has oppose to hell :wink: ) But to confirm this we'll all have to wait at the end of july. I'll put my money on CONROE tough!!! :twisted:

I mean, it's not like the internet is filled with post of 50% overclock for A64X2 3800+. But I think will be fairly easily achievable for the baby Conroe at 1,86GHZ. I'mm not saying it will be cool, but with decent cooling it should overclock very well in theory.

My 2 cents. :!: :)
 
Thats also true, but DDR1 wont get any cheaper (= going to become more expensive), while Conroe only needs some low clockspeed (667 or even 533) DDR2 to perform.
 
Just because you live in a cave outside Bitola, I'll forgive your misspelling of EXPENSIVE.
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Again you failed to impress me. If you googled around to find any info (city from my country) that does not make you a geography Ph. D. But I am sure you'll claim that you are, just like the 50 jobs you are doing in parallel.
I gave you my addres & phones numbers(yes we have phones in our caves), but you are very stupid to check out in which city I actually live.
So becouse you are stupid, I'll not forgive you and I will PWN your dumb ass over and over every time you post BS.
Now can we start please, I feel like arguing with idiot and it is fun. :lol:
 
You guys just need to chill. There are other threads dedicated to juvenile arguments like those. I'm sure AMD and Intel appreciate you championing their respective causes, but it's not necessary.

It has been established that Core 2 Duo/Conroe will, I repeat will beat the current Athlon 64 architecture, hands-down. I think we can agree on this, fanboys from both sides alike. We can also agree that it is not the end of the world for either side. Both companies are working hard to produce better products.

Everyone can agree that while Netburst was fast, the A64 architecture was superior in most areas. Netburst was hot-running, and very inefficient. Now Intel is going to take the performance crown with Core 2. And if it's better, they earned it. No amount of poo-pooing will take that crown away from them. Core 2 will be good, so deal with it.

Intel people, feel free to brag. AMD people, feel encouraged to just smile and nod, knowing that Texas will produce something to beat Core 2. And the cycle will continue.

Fanboys STFU!!!!
 
I totally agree!!!!!!!!!

Like I said many times before. We all win whatever from a good competition between Intel and AMD. I'm glad Intel came out with a superperforming cpu. I'll be happy also when either K8L or AMD new architecture will surpass it in 2007/2008. And so on with NEHALEM from Intel if everything goes as expected.

And you should all agree with me!!! :evil: :twisted:
Otherwise, go get a life! :roll:
 
Nothing is required; you act as if he expects the best performance possible on a budget, well that is not going to happen no matter what memory he buys. Even with the more expensive memory, the $250 price on the Conroe motherboard vs. $100 on an AM2 board still doesn’t make up the difference. I’m not saying that the Conroe isn’t a good chip, because that’s far from the truth, it’s just the savings are not as great when you are actually buying a complete system.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145526
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145566
 
I believe Yes. 3800 can overclock to 3ghz stock HSF and prime stable, plus. AMD’s are SLI ready. The E6300 is 2mb cache and will be slow in games. check the link below. I am seeing a lot of privileged Intel's front runner fanboys who advertised for conroe w/ their cherry picked ES, beginning to show their dissatisfactions and complaining about "conroe being hot", "motherboards frying", "no good bios available", "Can not overclock and be stable",
"Motherboards and chipset FSB overclocking limitations" and plenty other complaints.
These are the same "privileged" fanboys who where cheerleading conroe for the past 2.5 months.
Best to wait for retail version and non "super cooked" ES’s hit the market and average un-bias users report their findings here and in the other forums.

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=465961
 
Nothing is required; you act as if he expects the best performance possible on a budget, well that is not going to happen no matter what memory he buys. Even with the more expensive memory, the $250 price on the Conroe motherboard vs. $100 on an AM2 board still doesn’t make up the difference. I’m not saying that the Conroe isn’t a good chip, because that’s far from the truth, it’s just the savings are not as great when you are actually buying a complete system.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145526
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145566
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Not every Conroe-compatable mobo is going to be $250+ either. Just realize that it isn't just black or white here, and if price were his only criteria, he wouldn't have only asked if the 3800+ is faster. He would have asked which is cheaper.
 
I believe Yes. 3800 can overclock to 3ghz stock HSF and prime stable, plus. AMD’s are SLI ready. The E6300 is 2mb cache and will be slow in games. check the link below. I am seeing a lot of privileged Intel's front runner fanboys who advertised for conroe w/ their cherry picked ES, beginning to show their dissatisfactions and complaining about "conroe being hot", "motherboards frying", "no good bios available", "Can not overclock and be stable",
"Motherboards and chipset FSB overclocking limitations" and plenty other complaints.
These are the same "privileged" fanboys who where cheerleading conroe for the past 2.5 months.
Best to wait for retail version and non "super cooked" ES’s hit the market and average un-bias users report their findings here and in the other forums.

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=465961
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Well, I guess the best way to get attention in a room full of intelligent people is to act like an idiot.
 
Not every Conroe-compatable mobo is going to be $250+ either. Just realize that it isn't just black or white here, and if price were his only criteria, he wouldn't have only asked if the 3800+ is faster. He would have asked which is cheaper.
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That is true, but seeing as he's choosing between a budget Conroe and an X2 3800+, I'd say price is a factor. If price had no bearing, I'd say get the E6700.
 
mjp1618
Well, I guess the best way to get attention in a room full of intelligent people is to act like an idiot.
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You fail to be objective and loose your sense/head when someone doubts your master. a sign of weakness and clear pattern from Intel's side of things.
I linked to an Intel forum BTW, and those are direct quotes from Intel's privileged conroe ES owners. are you in denial?
 
Hey, Heyyou,

I think you will find that the release of "additional Mobos, from additional companies" rumored to begin tomorrow the 4th, will level those price points ALOT!

You grab the price of "ONE OF" the few currently Conroe compliant mobos and assume that they all are that price?

Please allow for the release of additional boards, and if they all are in that same dollar amount I will gladly come back and agree with you. Until then your pricing info is just conjecture based upon too small of a sample.

The arguement that the Intel boards are too expensive "more than making up the differential of CPU cost" is still yet to be seen. Especially since the true market has not yet been established for conroe pricing either "unless you want to go by pre-order from buy.com" again a small sample.
 
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