Windows 7 Ad Highlights Mac's Lack Of Blu-ray

[Usersname]

[citation][nom]Vladislaus[/nom]Take 3.Actually the CGI was made using linux.[/citation]E.v.e.r.y.t.i.m.e. (™)

 

[thillntn]

If M$ wants to push blu-Ray now, let me ship my xbox360 to them and a 100 dollar bill.they can add a bluray to my 360, and avoid a future flanking from a $ony commercial. I know this is about laptops, but it is kind of hypocrytical of their part!

 

[sykozis]

[citation][nom]j3ff86[/nom]The stupid thing about this ad is that Windows 7 by itself has no Blu-ray disc playback support. Windows Media Center can play Blu-ray discs, but you need PowerDVD or Arcsoft Totalmedia installed, which start at $50.[/citation]

PowerDVD comes with most blu-ray drives....unless you're dumb enough to buy an OEM drive. For those that buy pre-builts...it comes pre-installed on most media center systems. Your argument doesn't hold water....kind of like Mac's can't play blu-ray...

 

[jsc]

[citation][nom]outlw6669[/nom]Nah, keep it classy Microsoft.No need to stoop down to Steve's level...[/citation]
I agree with outlaw.

 

[fayzaan]

Mac stinks!!! they stink so bad that they stink!

 

[wotan31]

Funny commercial, but I don't own any blu-ray discs, no plans to buy any either unless the cost of movie disc comes down to DVD levels. Also, Avatar was a really crappy movie. Yes the special effects were awesome, but that's all it has. As a movie, it plain sucks; shallow cheesy plot, poor character development, predictable story line. I give it a C-. It would be an F, if it weren't for the special effects.

 

[wotan31]

[citation][nom]overclockingrocks[/nom]I can understand why Microsoft didn't want to go and spend all the money licensing the codecs for BR. It would have added probably a huge extra cost to the OS. I'd rather spend the $50 buying Power DVD rather than spending probably the extra $80-100 more that MS would have added in to the cost of Windows 7 had they included BR support as a native thing rather than relying on 3rd party apps. [/citation]
So Blu-Ray support is actually not included in Windows. So what exactly is the difference between you spending the extra money to buy and install 3rd party software on a PC - and having to buy and install a blu-ray drive with software on a Mac? All Mac's do indeed support Blu-Ray, they just don't ship with them from Apple. Plenty of SATA, USB, and Firewire Blu-Ray drives to choose from, all of which are just plug-n-play on OSX. Seems like both Windows and OSX are in the same boat on this one.

 

[Vladislaus]

[citation][nom]wotan31[/nom]So Blu-Ray support is actually not included in Windows. So what exactly is the difference between you spending the extra money to buy and install 3rd party software on a PC - and having to buy and install a blu-ray drive with software on a Mac? All Mac's do indeed support Blu-Ray, they just don't ship with them from Apple. Plenty of SATA, USB, and Firewire Blu-Ray drives to choose from, all of which are just plug-n-play on OSX. Seems like both Windows and OSX are in the same boat on this one.[/citation]
All laptops with bluray drives come with the appropriate software to play movies as does reatail drives. Only the OEMs lack the software. Also I can get a PC with an internal bluray drive, something I can't with a mac. Also to my knowledge there isn't any software on the mac that plays bluray movies. Unless of course you use bootcamp or parallels to run windows with the appropriate software.

 

[Drag0nR1der]

ahahaha ... "No macs were used in the making of this movie" ... brilliant

 

[Drag0nR1der]

"The stupid thing about this ad is that Windows 7 by itself has no Blu-ray disc playback support. Windows Media Center can play Blu-ray discs..."

Is that the same Media Centre which comes with nearly all (and certainly every sensible) versions of Windows 7... ?

 

[rantoc]

[citation][nom]xbeater[/nom]SO WHAT?? They give you the flexibility to make it work. The only reason that M$ doesnt have builtin BluRay support is because of massive licencing fees probably. just TRY and get bluray on your mac, is the point they are trying to make.[/citation]

More likely they want the customer to be able to choose and on the windows platform it's a tons of good media players that support about any format worthwhile and they don't want to step on the media makers toes - Playing it nice knowing the windows have the eco system with tons of software so why ruin it when it works to everyone's advantage in the end since its a free system.

Not dictated what you can and can't do with YOUR computer by a single guy with godhood complex!

 

[jimmysmitty]

[citation][nom]LuckyDucky7[/nom]How about this ad for Microsoft:You can't hold a Windows Phone wrong.You can open a Windows computer if it needs an upgrade.You can log in to a Windows computer with your finger.Windows computers are always more powerful for the same price.Windows computers support every device you plug in.Macs need antivirus too.Windows Media Player 12 is better than iTunes.Our $2400 computers don't hit 212 degrees F during normal use.Windows computers do what iWon't.[/citation]

Lol. I do love WMP 12. Hope 13 improves it even more.

[citation][nom]jhansonxi[/nom]I waiting for Sony to come out with an ad about Blu-ray on the Xbox.[/citation]

Not the same. This is about having HD mobility. In most cases with the XBox, people will have a BD player as well and the 360 will be the game part of the setup.

I for one prefer BD on my PC. My GPU enhances quality.

 

[1pp1k10k4m1]

[citation][nom]xbeater[/nom]SO WHAT?? They give you the flexibility to make it work. The only reason that M$ doesnt have builtin BluRay support is because of massive licencing fees probably. just TRY and get bluray on your mac, is the point they are trying to make.[/citation]

Actually you can get blu ray on your mac...blu ray is just a movie encoded a certain way (.m2ts), which is playable on a mac. So technically apple gives you that same flexibility. So their point is misinformed and not valid.

I'm not a huge apple fan or a huge microsoft fan, but it's rather funny to see Microsoft releasing an ad about bluray when they offer a) no native support for it, b) pioneered the HD-DVD format and talked about how much blu-ray sucked, and c) came out with a complete failure of an Xbox 360 HD-DVD player. How long did that last...? As much as I despise Steve Jobs, at least he stuck to his guns on this one, and there are both external and internal blu ray drives for mac, as well as support for it thru Roxio Toast. So the Windows/Mac blu ray is moot at best, neither platform offers native support at the software level (though quicktime can convert it or you can play it through VLC). Neither Microsoft nor Apple manufactures a bluray drive. So, even if it isn't "built in", people on a supposed enthusiast site should have the sense to install a drive. Plus, isn't this supposed to be a site where many people like to custom build, add, subtract, etc to/from their machine of choice? Who gives two craps if its built in? It's kinda sad Microsoft has to use the words "built in" to make itself appear better.

What was the point of this? All it sounds like is Microsoft preying on consumer ignorance.

Just as a quick aside, if you want a blu ray player, try a PS3, its still the number 1 or 2 rated blu ray player on the market by CNET and others. And it's cheaper than either a laptop (w/1080p res) be it apple or microsoft. Again, making the whole ad completely ridiculous and moot at best.

 

[kastraelie]

Ok so. I own a BR player and I love watching BR movies on my 52" 1080 TV.

What exactly is the point of watching BR on a 15" laptop? Aside from draining the battery like crazy is there really a point? I'm not sure if I could tell the difference on a screen that small...

 

[Vladislaus]

[citation][nom]1pp1k10k4m1[/nom]Actually you can get blu ray on your mac...blu ray is just a movie encoded a certain way (.m2ts), which is playable on a mac. So technically apple gives you that same flexibility. So their point is misinformed and not valid. I'm not a huge apple fan or a huge microsoft fan, but it's rather funny to see Microsoft releasing an ad about bluray when they offer a) no native support for it, b) pioneered the HD-DVD format and talked about how much blu-ray sucked, and c) came out with a complete failure of an Xbox 360 HD-DVD player. How long did that last...? As much as I despise Steve Jobs, at least he stuck to his guns on this one, and there are both external and internal blu ray drives for mac, as well as support for it thru Roxio Toast. So the Windows/Mac blu ray is moot at best, neither platform offers native support at the software level (though quicktime can convert it or you can play it through VLC). Neither Microsoft nor Apple manufactures a bluray drive. So, even if it isn't "built in", people on a supposed enthusiast site should have the sense to install a drive. Plus, isn't this supposed to be a site where many people like to custom build, add, subtract, etc to/from their machine of choice? Who gives two craps if its built in? It's kinda sad Microsoft has to use the words "built in" to make itself appear better. What was the point of this? All it sounds like is Microsoft preying on consumer ignorance.Just as a quick aside, if you want a blu ray player, try a PS3, its still the number 1 or 2 rated blu ray player on the market by CNET and others. And it's cheaper than either a laptop (w/1080p res) be it apple or microsoft. Again, making the whole ad completely ridiculous and moot at best.[/citation]
You can buy a bluray player/recorder for the mac, and the mac does play m2ts. But the files on the commercial bluray movies are encrypted and since there isn't any software that plays bluray movies on the mac you only have three options: 1 - Install windows through bootcamp or parallels with software to play the bluray movie. 2 - Illegally rip the movie. 3 - not see the movie at all. The only thing the mac can do with blurays is burn and read data on to them.

Also you can get an internal bluray drive for you mac laptop only if you forgo the warranty. On almost all "PC" laptops I can change the drive without voiding the warranty.

Microsoft didn't said they had native supported for bluray movies. They said it's built-in which can have lots of meanings. One of them is that you can get a pc with a built-in bluray drive while a mac can't.

 

[stoogie]

macs blow

 

[tommysch]

I almost forgot that they didn't had BluRays... LOL fail.

Is getting screwed by iTunes a feature?

 

[tommysch]

[citation][nom]molo9000[/nom]This will all be forgotten in a few years when 99% of people download all their movies from the interwebs. Optical discs are a dying breed.This is a bit like when Apple introduced the 1998 iMac without a floppy drive, 2 years before USB flash drives came along.[/citation]

Are you high on crack? Data caps dude... At 50Gb per movie, Id like to see that happening with todays datacaps.

 

[tommysch]

[citation][nom]sykozis[/nom]PowerDVD comes with most blu-ray drives....unless you're dumb enough to buy an OEM drive. For those that buy pre-builts...it comes pre-installed on most media center systems. Your argument doesn't hold water....kind of like Mac's can't play blu-ray...[/citation]

So you are dumb enough to pay for the license... ROFL

 

[The Greater Good]

[citation][nom]LuckyDucky7[/nom]How about this ad for Microsoft:You can't hold a Windows Phone wrong.You can open a Windows computer if it needs an upgrade.You can log in to a Windows computer with your finger.Windows computers are always more powerful for the same price.Windows computers support every device you plug in.Macs need antivirus too.Windows Media Player 12 is better than iTunes.Our $2400 computers don't hit 212 degrees F during normal use.Windows computers do what iWon't.[/citation]

Too bad the thumbs up stops at 20.

 

[jgiron]

so funny..Microsoft is telling Apple that Blu-Ray rocks at the same time not mentioning that the XBOX 360 does not support Blu-Ray (and most likely never will). Sony needs to step in...Blue-Ray is awesome...our computers use it and so does our Playstation 3.

 

[mayne92]

[citation][nom]Vladislaus[/nom]All laptops with bluray drives come with the appropriate software to play movies as does reatail drives. Only the OEMs lack the software. Also I can get a PC with an internal bluray drive, something I can't with a mac. Also to my knowledge there isn't any software on the mac that plays bluray movies. Unless of course you use bootcamp or parallels to run windows with the appropriate software.[/citation]
Your overuse of the term "PC" to mean "Windows" is making my head hurt...

 

[Vladislaus]

[citation][nom]jgiron[/nom]so funny..Microsoft is telling Apple that Blu-Ray rocks at the same time not mentioning that the XBOX 360 does not support Blu-Ray (and most likely never will). Sony needs to step in...Blue-Ray is awesome...our computers use it and so does our Playstation 3.[/citation]
The Xbox360 is a gaming console, it's purpose is gaming. Microsoft made that fact clear by not even including a browser. They did tried to expand the usability of the console but it still remains a gaming console. The playstation on the other hand was made to be a swiss army knife, it has a browser, it works much better as a media center than the xbox, at one time we could even install a full OS in it.

 

[Guest]

Bunch of NOOBS
Blue RAY is DEAD
Nobody USES BLUE Ray ( as there is no real stable standard.
Everybody uses NAS Boxes these days. 2 Terra Byte Hard disks at 100$.
Stuff Blue Ray.. NAS is where Home Movie Systems have gone.
Notebook Hard disks are more than large enough to hold a bunch of movies on the local hard disk. nuff sad.. BLUE RAY = DEAD RUBBISH.

 

[Vladislaus]

[citation][nom]mayne92[/nom]Your overuse of the term "PC" to mean "Windows" is making my head hurt...[/citation]
I know that it's incorrect to mention a windows machine as a pc because a mac is also a pc, as is a computer running linux/unix,... But most people generalized the term pc as being a computer running windows. Even the adverts "I'm a mac" refered to a windows computer as a pc. But I'll be more precise next time.