Windows 7 Could Spur Mac Sales Instead

[ant1-b0dy]

^_^ Even WinXP is based on the NT kernel - which is due for a serious overhaul. Marcus, I'd like to thank you for wasting 5 minutes of my time, 5 minutes of the time I could have been using to play Crysis on my PC instead of using a Mac and wishing to play it.

 

[snotling]

[citation][nom]Ottozero[/nom]Mac our outdated hardware, but nice design and Excellent Operating system. I will purchase an iMac when they offer a 4 or 8 core CPU with at least the option for 16gb of Ram, and 2gb Video Card. I would love to run Both Current Operating systems (S.L. & Win7) I currently own a Dell studio quad core 2.3ghz with 8gb Ram, 1gb 4670 (I upgraded)and it runs great (except for Vista 64bit os, it has bugs). Then again I could just wait longer and Get an upgraded Mac Pro with USB 3.0/Blu-ray/dual 8-core CPUs/128 GB ram.......nice[/citation]
you're gonna pay 50k for such a Mac....

 

[Platypus]

Another question to ask: In the past 20 years, how many times has Apple run sales or discounts during the first few months of MSFT releasing a new OS?

 

[aago1254]

all i can say is wow what a load of bs. hands down pc's are better than a mac even though the hip adds from apple say diff. mac will tell you anything or make you think its best its part of marketing. if you want a fast and something you can use why dont you just get a pc with linux. what a idea. anywho windows 7 is way better than mac snow leopard or leopard any day of the week. and will continue to out do mac.

 

[tester24]

Thank you captain obvious. Mac had so little market share that their numbers had no where to go but up. If they went down it would be a disaster for them.

 

[AdamB5000]

Any other theories?

My theory is that the release of what has been reviewed as the best version of Windows ever will help the PC market, not hurt it.

Time will tell.

 

[Miharu]

It's logic, when competitor have a new cute OS, more people feel the need to upgrade. Upgrade doesn't mean that new MS product, this could mean the other camp "Apple".

A need to upgrade is just a need of "technology" upgrade, so you choose the technology.

 

[Abrahm]

How did I know, by just reading the title, that this was going to be another useless, baseless, and mostly fact-less article by Marcus Yam?

 

[caeden]

several reasons for this...

when 80% of the market is up for an upgrade, then people in other competitive markets feel the need to keep up (and boy oh boy will mac have to keep up on this one)

many web designers use mac and duel boot so they can see their pages on all possible browsers. This is easiest to do on a mac that may not be new enough to take full advantage of win7

dont tell me mac cuts back on advertising when there is a new win OS out there, on the contrary they will fight harder, and thus bring in a little more business

And last but not least is that the author puts this in a way as if a new win release will help mac as much as or more than it will help microfluf, and that is simply not true. When there is a new release macs sales go up and their market share goes down. So their sales go up... not nowhere near the volume of windows sales.



Now I am curious about the win7 release because most of the PC people I know already have the win7 RC. This means we wont be buying it until next summer when we are locked out of our systems. Win 7 is awesome... but I'm not exactly ready to pay for it yet.

 

[Lans]

yet a whopping 85% of Mac homes also play host to Windows-based machines

I wonder how many people upgrade both Windows and Mac around the same time. I generally notice how slow my older machines become once I get accustomed to a faster/newer machine... ;-)

 

[quantum mask]

[citation][nom]tayb[/nom]God forbid there be a Mac fan to write articles at tomshardware. We know that this is tomshardwarewindowsonly.com and Apple isn't to be talked about.[/citation]

By it's very nature, this site should hold little interest for Apple users. You can't "build" a Mac (legally) and that's what this site is all about. So why is there even Mac fans on this site commenting? Why are there pro-Apple articles on this site? If everyone went Apple, this site would either no longer exist or they would have to change their whole format. Could it be that Mac fans secretly want to be PC people? Understandable.

 

[crom]

Macs make prettier hardware. People like pretty things but they don't want to have to fully change over to a new OS environment. So they can have their cake and eat it too.

 

[_mrvtcng_]

Shit! nothing is new in Windows$ 7. Only bugs fixing from Vi$ta

 

[Guest]

Is it possible Apple fans are upgrading their hardware to run the latest Windows release? I suspect there is a correlation with the Mac buyers wanting to dual boot or run the next version of Windows in a VM. Make sense when Windows usually requires higher hardware specs than OS X

 

[quadibloc]

Well, in general, if Windows changes to a new OS, some compatibility issues exist compared to the same old OS, so that slightly lowers the bar for switching to a Mac, at least in relative terms. That would be my theory as to why an OS change, in itself, would encourage Mac sales. Usually, of course, each new Windows OS came with increased hardware requirements; this would have a stronger impact on Mac versus Windows sales, I would think, so the Windows 7 release doesn't have to have the same impact as previous Windows releases.

 

[Intel_Hydralisk]

I find myself reading Tom's less and less because of crap like this. [H] and Anand ftw.

 

[Leandri]

Sooo....what you're saying is that "We can't say that it's helping, but it certainly isn't hurting Apple sales," and "It isn't helping us directly, but we may sell more in the future at a possibly increased rate."

Sounds like statistics spinning to me.

 

[marccarney]

I'm evaluating Windows 7 currently and it's hard to see how it's much different to Vista. Seems like the same rubbish to me so far and I really DONT LIKE the interface at all. I much prefer GNOME since Vista converted me to a Fedora user....

 

[jangocat]

This site is getting ridiculous. Too think this used to be the best hard core tech site where I learned to overclock my Pentium 200mmx. Now I gotta read nonsense like this. Talk about garbage, this is the most absurd spin I have EVER read in a tech article.

 

[ssalim]

I'm telling you this is Kevin P's personal blog (which sir Marcus and lady Jane also write on).

 

[millerm84]

In 2007 Applereleased: Apple TV, the ipod Nano, OSX Leopard, ipod touch, and the bloody Iphone. In 2007 M$ released one product and it wasn't their best work to date but still sold 100 million copies by the end of the first year.

Sure Apple sold tons of new hardware, but did Leopard outsell Vista? The only sales information I could find on Apple's only software sales for leopard was the 2 million they put out on opening weekend. Vista is a half-assed OS (took 6 years to replace XP vs 2 to replace Vista that's Gatespeak for half-assed product see Windows ME) in fact in the first year M$ out sold all of Apple's new products from 2007 by a margin in the tens of millions.

This Mac blogger Marcus referred to is like a last place runner who improved their time by a fraction of a second, then boasts they are better then the winner because they did just a little bit better. No one cares if you did a little bit better in what should have been a monster year, if you still suck worse then every one else in the race.

I really don't mind if Tom's reports on Apple, they make some interesting hardware ,but I will ask that Tom's refrain from "reporting" on bloggers and their stroking of Jobs' ego.

 

[zcubed]

Macs are PCs...just over-priced with a locked down OS.

The article writer is clearly either biased or uninformed.

 

[perpetual98]

[citation][nom]quadibloc[/nom]Usually, of course, each new Windows OS came with increased hardware requirements; this would have a stronger impact on Mac versus Windows sales, I would think, so the Windows 7 release doesn't have to have the same impact as previous Windows releases.[/citation]

Windows 7 will actually work on hardware that Vista would have crippled.

 

[dante01010]

humm... Windows 7 supports GPT disks but you can't create a bootable GPT disk on a current PC because it requires a motherboard with EFI instead of BIOS

 

[godwhomismike]

[citation][nom]adillhoff[/nom]The release of Windows 7 definitely makes me want to overpay on mediocre hardware.[/citation]

Exactly. The last thing I want is to buy a notebook with a CPU that was released well over a year and a half ago mated to a netbook-quality GPU which used shared system memory and pay $1500+ for it.

What I would like is a quad core notebook and Windows 7. Speaking of which, Dell has something that will fit the bill with their new Dell Studio 15 laptop with the new mobile Core i7 cpus, 4GB DDR3 memory, 250GB 7200rpm hard drive, and a 512MB ATI Radeon 4570 video card for $999.

If I wasn't buying a house and had more money, then I would have my money on the new HP Envy 15 for $1799. Then I could have that Apple-like styling, but have a boatload of power which Apple can't seem to offer. 1GB ATI 4830 video, up to 16GB DDR3 memory, 5.2 lb laptop, Core-i7 CPU, up to two SSD drives.

Sorry, but it looks like Microsoft and PC manufacturers have this one in the bag. Sub-$1000 gets me a quad-core note book, dedicated graphics, 4GB DDR3 memory, 250GB 7200rpm hard drive.

For that price, the only thing I can get from Apple is a white notebook with an archaic 2.13 GHz dual core CPU, 2GB memory, integrated graphics, 160GB 5400rpm hard drive.