Question Windows crash ?

[Theodwros Tenizis]

- long post below -

Soo... Here are the specs:
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Asus X570E Gaming Wifi (BIOS in the latest version) - (when in windows after the BIOS update my QCode instead of AA is 9E)
Corsair Vengeace RGB (1st edition) 4x8GB 3000Mhz
KFA2 3070 (was working great before the swap)
EVGA G2 1000W Gold
Nvme 960 Pro (5 years old healthy)
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And here is my story:
Pc was working perfect but i decided to upgrade everything except the GPU ( I have a white ROG 3070 ) so I just swapped the Asus one for the KFA.

I swapped the gpus (i didnt uninstall anything nor ddu or something like that) and i decided to upgrade to windows 11 before giving my old system away.

I updated to windows 11 and used it for a couple of hours to check if everything was ok. When nothing strange happened i went in to format the pc.
I cant remember exactly how i reinstalled the windows but it ended up showing showing a folder in windows named "windows.old" or something like that.

After installing every single windows update, drivers etc I installed a game ( LOL ) just to check if everything works ok again. Everything seemed ok so I packed it and gave it to my friend.

He then tried to install his apps (discord, teams, steam etc..) Until late night he texted me and said his monitor turns off and on, except it wasn't the monitors fault, it was just the pc showing black screen (you could hear the music still playing) and then turning off until a BSOD occured with "Critical Process Died".
I took the pc back and tried several things but still nothing works.
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Things i tried:
- All bootrec.exe commancds
- Startup repair (couldnt repair the pc log file ''SrtTrail.txt''
- Repair from usb
- Recovery
- Reinstalled windows 11 (works ok for 10 minutes after inside windows but then the on off thing starts again)
- Reset (this is my last step, i tried resetting the pc and now it just powers to the logo of asus, the screen goes black and the hdmi cable connection shows up to the monitor several times and then restarts again)
- Reinstalled windows 10 and as soon as it showed me the desktop it went black and started cycling again.
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I dont know what else could be going wrong and I dont want to start swapping parts to see if there is something wrong with the hardware.
I dont think its a hardware issue because the pc was working perfect before, also the problems do not appear when i enter windows with safe mode.

Does anyone have a clue what my issue could be?

 

[Lutfij]

Reinstalled windows 11 (works ok for 10 minutes after inside windows but then the on off thing starts again)
Where did you source the installer for the OS? Did you install all relevant drivers for your motherboard with the latest version, in an elevated command, i.e, Right click installer>Run as Administrator, or did you let the OS handle that?

You're also advised to install Windows 10/11 in offline mode to prevent the OS from downloading drivers it thinks is right for your platform.

How old is the PSU?

 

[Theodwros Tenizis]

Reinstalled windows 11 (works ok for 10 minutes after inside windows but then the on off thing starts again)
Where did you source the installer for the OS? Did you install all relevant drivers for your motherboard with the latest version, in an elevated command, i.e, Right click installer>Run as Administrator, or did you let the OS handle that?

You're also advised to install Windows 10/11 in offline mode to prevent the OS from downloading drivers it thinks is right for your platform.

How old is the PSU?

Where did you source the installer for the OS?
- I didnt quite understand the question

Did you install all relevant drivers for your motherboard with the latest version, in an elevated command, i.e, Right click installer>Run as Administrator, or did you let the OS handle that?
- Everything is up to date by manually installing them from the website except the gpu drivers that update automatically.

You're also advised to install Windows 10/11 in offline mode to prevent the OS from downloading drivers it thinks is right for your platform.
- I am always connected on the internet and never had this kinda of issue..Specially on the same system that was working fine a day ago.

How old is the PSU?
- PSU is around 10 years old, still has 2 more years on warranty.

 

[ubuysa]

I upgraded everything but the GPU

Did you use the same Windows system as the original PC parts? If so, that was your mistake. If you then updated to Windows 11 (but did not clean install) then you just componded your mistake.

When Windows installs it configures and optimises itself for the hardware platform it finds itself on. In addition all the drivers (chipset in particular) are specific to the hardware platform. If you then change the hardware platform but use the old installed copy of Windows all that configuration and optimisation will be wrong and many (most) of the drivers will be wrong too. I'm not surprised you're having problems. New hardware really needs a clean install (from bootable media).

In addition, a CRITICAL_PROCESS_DIED bugcheck is most usually caused by hardware (typically CPU or RAM). Did you check that the CPU/RAM/motherboard are all compatible with one another?

 

[Theodwros Tenizis]

Did you use the same Windows system as the original PC parts? If so, that was your mistake. If you then updated to Windows 11 (but did not clean install) then you just componded your mistake.

When Windows installs it configures and optimises itself for the hardware platform it finds itself on. In addition all the drivers (chipset in particular) are specific to the hardware platform. If you then change the hardware platform but use the old installed copy of Windows all that configuration and optimisation will be wrong and many (most) of the drivers will be wrong too. I'm not surprised you're having problems. New hardware really needs a clean install (from bootable media).

In addition, a CRITICAL_PROCESS_DIED bugcheck is most usually caused by hardware (typically CPU or RAM). Did you check that the CPU/RAM/motherboard are all compatible with one another?

I think i may have confused you guys. I have 2 pcs right now. My old system (the one that has been crashing) and my upgraded one. The upgraded one is working just fine. My old system was working perfect and has the same components as before, i have changed nothing except the gpu ( i had Asus and i swapped it for the KFA) so its impossible to be a compatibility issue. It had windows 10 and i updated to 11 and then all problems started from there.

I tried what @Lutfij wrote above and did once more a windows 10 install without connecting to the internet and I managed to get into windows, pc is working great but i havent connect to internet yet. I am currently downloading the drivers from another pc and will install them without internet and see if the problem continues.

 

[Theodwros Tenizis]

*Update*

I reinstalled windows 10 without internet connection, managed to get into windows without any problems.
As soon as i connect to the internet and it automatically downloads some things like armoury crate etc after the restart everything goes back to crashing again.

Automatic repair cant fix it, getting a new blue screen code now (Bad systen config info), system restore takes me succesfully back into windows without internet (so no drivers installed) but every time i connect to the internet the problems begin. Im guessing there is something software/driver causing this?

I am out of options here cant seem to figure out what the problem is.

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

Possibly windows trying to install an incompatible driver?

 

[Theodwros Tenizis]

Coming on with a closure in this post.

I have no idea what the problem was. I had the pc taken to 3-4 technicians so that someone could hopefully find out what was wrong with it but that ended up being a waste of time.

This is the first time i have had this happened to me and it seems that the specific GPU with the specific motherboard coulnt work no matter what.

I have tried the following gpus on that motherboard:
GT730, 1060, 1660, 2070S, 3070 (Gigabyte), 3070ti (KFA2), 3070ti (TUF), 4080, 4090
Everything works perfect.

I have tried at least 6 motherboards with that gpu. Everything works perfect.

The time i install THAT specific gpu on THAT specific motherboard, everything goes wrong.

Since everything works great, i ended up ordering a brand new 3070ti, giving the build away (friend keeps me updated every day and no problems so far) and since the KFA2 3070 is working as it should i sold it standalone.

Long story short, we have no idea what would cause this but it is over now. See you on the next one

 

[ubuysa]

That's interesting. Did you try THAT specific GPU on THAT specific motherboard but with a different PSU? If the problem is not where you're looking then it's somewhere else. Your testing showed that the motherboard was OK and the graphics card was OK, so the problem had to be somewhere else. I would have gone to the PSU next....