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Only MS Noobs say stupid things like my java did not install in ubuntu.
another example. my .net does not work.. why canot' my ms windows install just look the same.
NOOBS!! I am glad you guys love windows.. Windows is by far the easyest to hack and mess with.
another example. my .net does not work.. why canot' my ms windows install just look the same.
NOOBS!! I am glad you guys love windows.. Windows is by far the easyest to hack and mess with.
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Really that comparison isn't very convincing. It should be like Windows: If you want viruses and like your resources being hogged. Ubuntu: If you don't want viruses and you like your hardware to be used efficiently.
Don't get me wrong, Windows is much better in some aspects, but Unix based stuff completely kicks butt.
Don't get me wrong, Windows is much better in some aspects, but Unix based stuff completely kicks butt.
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Windows can be just as complicated as Linux depending on what you're doing with it. Ubuntu is a great introduction to Linux if the user doesn't want to change much (if anything). I think it's kinda cool that Dell offers options. I still won't buy their machines, but I applaud their chutzpah to offer choices of OS.
"Grandma, open a terminal, get root access, change directories and now edit the .conf..."
Naw, it's not very grandma-friendly but for someone who wants to check out the other options and don't mind a little learning curve it's great!
"Grandma, open a terminal, get root access, change directories and now edit the .conf..."
Naw, it's not very grandma-friendly but for someone who wants to check out the other options and don't mind a little learning curve it's great!
Dell should include the Kubuntu free of charge with every system and let the consumer decide after trying both.
A nice feature of Kubuntu is the ability to try it without making changes to the Windows environment.
If the variant is unacceptable simply remove the free disc and pass it on in the spirit of Ubuntu.
A nice feature of Kubuntu is the ability to try it without making changes to the Windows environment.
If the variant is unacceptable simply remove the free disc and pass it on in the spirit of Ubuntu.
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i used to teach a lot of elderly to use computer. it is very easy to teach them to use ubuntu to surf the web (with firefox) and check emails (with thunderbird). they have no complain on the OS or sometimes they barely know the difference. but when i teach windows users, the first thing they complain about is a sluggish computer. i have to explain to them how those antivirus, anti-spyware programs are dragging the machine.
Yet, later some ask me how to use photoshop and ulead video studio etc, i explain to them there are "free" software to accomplish the same tasks. they then refuse to learn as they prefer to use software that everyone is using. they do not want to risk to stay away from the (windows) crowd.
so i guess for beginners doing very simple tasks, ubuntu really does it's job much better than windows (even in win7, so many complain it takes forever just to boot up and "this and that" are not working).
intermediate users who like to do a little bit more with their device may be despaired of the little hicups in linux such as hardware, unfamiliar software names (like gimp, pidgin, rhythmbox) and most often the unsupported games.
Advanced users despite of whether they are linux maniacs or windows patrons will have enough to justify themselves.
I personally prefer linux to windows for the sake of open source and effortless better security.
Yet, later some ask me how to use photoshop and ulead video studio etc, i explain to them there are "free" software to accomplish the same tasks. they then refuse to learn as they prefer to use software that everyone is using. they do not want to risk to stay away from the (windows) crowd.
so i guess for beginners doing very simple tasks, ubuntu really does it's job much better than windows (even in win7, so many complain it takes forever just to boot up and "this and that" are not working).
intermediate users who like to do a little bit more with their device may be despaired of the little hicups in linux such as hardware, unfamiliar software names (like gimp, pidgin, rhythmbox) and most often the unsupported games.
Advanced users despite of whether they are linux maniacs or windows patrons will have enough to justify themselves.
I personally prefer linux to windows for the sake of open source and effortless better security.
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Choose Windows if you are new to computers? I have friends who have been using Windows for over a decade and still don't understand how to do anything but the absolute basics. If you're new to computers (and I mean really new) then it doesn't matter if you fire up Windows 7 or UNIX System V; you're going to be lost.
Give it up, Linux is bad. It is not easy to install and use; the way it handles new programs is terrible at best; the amount of programs you can use is terrible at best; you have to use emulators to run a lot of games and they run like crap... it goes on and on. Face it Linux outside of corporate use is a hobby for tech geeks; it is far far behind Windows 7 and OSX as a consumer operating system and is the worst by far at offering a pleasing user experience.
I find it hilarious that Linux folks always say how easy it is to fix a problem, but when a power user who is new to Linux it is unf***ing possible to actually do it the "easy way".
For example : I installed the new Ubuntu on one of my laptops. Turns out v 10 removed support for my graphics card, but the funny thing is that, in Ubuntu 8 the graphics card installed using proprietary drivers.
Now , its impossible to install my x1700 card.
Gave up on that laptop, so I tried installing Ubuntu on another laptop which I found that the graphic card was supported before I installed it.
The first of many problems was to get to play flash movies in full screen. The browser just crashed, BAM straight to the desktop. No errors, no nothing.
After alot of fiddling and fooling around I managed to heap a *fix*. I installed compiz 3d graphic effects and then all of the sudden, I could watch flash movies in full screen.
Second problem I had was when I was watching movies on both of those laptops (real movies, not flash). I had insane amounts of tearing when the picture moved to much. No matter what I tried solved the damn problem. People said that its because I didnt have graphical hardware acceleration, which makes sense on one of the laptops but I had the same problem on both laptops , one of which had gfx drivers installed.
Sure, when Linux actually works, I will consider starting to use itB But as of now, it is so damn annoying with no damn standards and files you have to execute via terminal. I just want to shoot myself in the face with a sawed off shotgun.
For example : I installed the new Ubuntu on one of my laptops. Turns out v 10 removed support for my graphics card, but the funny thing is that, in Ubuntu 8 the graphics card installed using proprietary drivers.
Now , its impossible to install my x1700 card.
Gave up on that laptop, so I tried installing Ubuntu on another laptop which I found that the graphic card was supported before I installed it.
The first of many problems was to get to play flash movies in full screen. The browser just crashed, BAM straight to the desktop. No errors, no nothing.
After alot of fiddling and fooling around I managed to heap a *fix*. I installed compiz 3d graphic effects and then all of the sudden, I could watch flash movies in full screen.
Second problem I had was when I was watching movies on both of those laptops (real movies, not flash). I had insane amounts of tearing when the picture moved to much. No matter what I tried solved the damn problem. People said that its because I didnt have graphical hardware acceleration, which makes sense on one of the laptops but I had the same problem on both laptops , one of which had gfx drivers installed.
Sure, when Linux actually works, I will consider starting to use itB But as of now, it is so damn annoying with no damn standards and files you have to execute via terminal. I just want to shoot myself in the face with a sawed off shotgun.
I find it hilarious that windows folk always make out that linux is so hard to use or really hard to get things to work, they make windows out to be some kind of easy OS that never has any problems. Look at it this way how many businesses are there out there that only exist because of windows problems, i can't count the number of times i have been called in to fix a family members windows pc because something has stopped working, i think its a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
Have you used linux before? in my case it was much easier to install than windows 7, xubuntu took 15-20 minutes to install and i didn't even need to download and install the drivers for my graphics card, sound card and touchpad like i did in windows 7, and once up and running its just as easy if not easier than windows 7.
"the way it handles new programs is terrible" I have no idea where you get that from, just open up synaptic package manager type in the name of the software you want and click install then start using it, couldn't be simpler, and debian has over 18,000 packages available.
It sounds like the last time you used linux was over 10 years ago, if anything windows and OSX are behind linux, i get a pleasing user experience with linux - much faster, no need for antivirus & antispyware software, multiple desktops through compiz to name a few.
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Dude don't bother with the users who read things on this site, I have just realized that this is a PRO-Windows website. These users have never used Ubuntu and are making things up as they go along. Also who knows how many of these posts are actual Microsoft trolls.
As for the guy talking about software again, dumb ass users indeed they are trying to run Windows software on a non Microsoft windows system. Like trying to run an .exe or .msi file on a MAC. Instead of using the native operating system software which if they have truly ever used the OS they can install it from the Ubuntu Software Center(Do a search and click install). As for the guy with the graphics card story Ubuntu supports both ATI and NVIDIA cards with their proprietary drivers(this means straight from Nvidia or ATI folks). Any other graphics cards is supported by either their own drivers or the open source one. The whole video tearing issue humm....total bullshit I bet it would run the same way on windows, which means he had a shit of a system. But seriously enough arguing with these folks leave them in Windows land so they can get taken advantage of, I think I would actually enjoy that. You try to tell people of a good thing and they spit in your face, so why bother with them. I'm done and you should quit too, preach it to those whom are actually willing to listen.
I got this one guy in my office whom is using my old PC which ran Ubuntu with no problem, the Hard drive never made a sound. Now the PC has Windows installed both 7 and now XP and when I tried to tell him that is a windows issue the guy wanted to chew my head off, why it beats me. So instead of him saying "You know what let me look in to that" he got all butt hurt and mad at me for trying to tell him why the PC might be doing that.
Dude don't bother with the users who read things on this site, I have just realized that this is a PRO-Windows website. These users have never used Ubuntu and are making things up as they go along. Also who knows how many of these posts are actual Microsoft trolls.
As for the guy talking about software again, dumb ass users indeed they are trying to run Windows software on a non Microsoft windows system. Like trying to run an .exe or .msi file on a MAC. Instead of using the native operating system software which if they have truly ever used the OS they can install it from the Ubuntu Software Center(Do a search and click install). As for the guy with the graphics card story Ubuntu supports both ATI and NVIDIA cards with their proprietary drivers(this means straight from Nvidia or ATI folks). Any other graphics cards is supported by either their own drivers or the open source one. The whole video tearing issue humm....total bullshit I bet it would run the same way on windows, which means he had a shit of a system. But seriously enough arguing with these folks leave them in Windows land so they can get taken advantage of, I think I would actually enjoy that. You try to tell people of a good thing and they spit in your face, so why bother with them. I'm done and you should quit too, preach it to those whom are actually willing to listen.
I got this one guy in my office whom is using my old PC which ran Ubuntu with no problem, the Hard drive never made a sound. Now the PC has Windows installed both 7 and now XP and when I tried to tell him that is a windows issue the guy wanted to chew my head off, why it beats me. So instead of him saying "You know what let me look in to that" he got all butt hurt and mad at me for trying to tell him why the PC might be doing that.
Not really, windows may have more drivers for peripherals but linux will run on more hardware than windows http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_kernels#Supported_CPU_architectures
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[citation][nom]janfebmar[/nom]I find it hilarious that Linux folks always say how easy it is to fix a problem, but when a power user who is new to Linux it is unf***ing possible to actually do it the "easy way".[/citation]
By "power user" I think you meant "Windows user." Windows "power users" find it harder to use Linux than new users, because they have a large amount of Windows knowledge that they like to draw on to solve problems. Unfortunately these problem-solving skills are Windows-specific and can't be used on an entirely different OS. If you have only ever known Unix-like OSs, you'll have the exact same problem when going over to Windows.
The next time you look for regedit.exe remember that Linux is not Windows.
By "power user" I think you meant "Windows user." Windows "power users" find it harder to use Linux than new users, because they have a large amount of Windows knowledge that they like to draw on to solve problems. Unfortunately these problem-solving skills are Windows-specific and can't be used on an entirely different OS. If you have only ever known Unix-like OSs, you'll have the exact same problem when going over to Windows.
The next time you look for regedit.exe remember that Linux is not Windows.
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Awesome dude! One more reason to dump Windows that dreaded registry. I'm so glad Windows Vista came out because after spending my last $150 on that horrible OS that is when I quit Windows completely and cloud not be happier now. Sorry Windows people I got tired of getting all butt hurt every time I got a blue screen of death or a black one in Vista.
Awesome dude! One more reason to dump Windows that dreaded registry. I'm so glad Windows Vista came out because after spending my last $150 on that horrible OS that is when I quit Windows completely and cloud not be happier now. Sorry Windows people I got tired of getting all butt hurt every time I got a blue screen of death or a black one in Vista.
Spartan2276
Well said, i guess i was just board and thought i would chime in.
I really dislike waiting for things to happen on computers so speed was one of the main reasons i switched to linux, with xubuntu i can boot from grub to a workable desktop (with compiz running)in 22 to 24 seconds on my old AMD turion X2 64 laptop, where windows 7 takes over one minute on the same machine, plus the general speed of the whole desktop is much faster with xubuntu.
Well said, i guess i was just board and thought i would chime in.
I really dislike waiting for things to happen on computers so speed was one of the main reasons i switched to linux, with xubuntu i can boot from grub to a workable desktop (with compiz running)in 22 to 24 seconds on my old AMD turion X2 64 laptop, where windows 7 takes over one minute on the same machine, plus the general speed of the whole desktop is much faster with xubuntu.
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