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I'm really tired of this game's technical issues. Anyone else find that
there is more server down times or lag here than in other MMORPGs? My
subscription ends tomorrow, and I'm not going to renew. Gives me free time
to live again, yipee, I feel reborn. The sky is so blue outside, and that
little cloud over there, it looks just like a gnome atop a
robo-bird-thingy...it's going to take some time to recover.
 
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:51:34 -0500, Grackle wrote:

> I'm really tired of this game's technical issues. Anyone else find that
> there is more server down times or lag here than in other MMORPGs? My
> subscription ends tomorrow, and I'm not going to renew. Gives me free time
> to live again, yipee, I feel reborn. The sky is so blue outside, and that
> little cloud over there, it looks just like a gnome atop a
> robo-bird-thingy...it's going to take some time to recover.

Nope, I have had NO problems with server crashes, etc. Pick a different
server if you have problems with the one you're on. Yeah, I know it's hard
to give up on a toon and start over, but that's really your only option
other than quitting entirely...

Shimrod
 
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In article <kNbLd.805$Ck1.238556@news20.bellglobal.com>,
nowhere@lalaland.ca says...
> I'm really tired of this game's technical issues. Anyone else find that
> there is more server down times or lag here than in other MMORPGs? My
> subscription ends tomorrow, and I'm not going to renew. Gives me free time
> to live again, yipee, I feel reborn. The sky is so blue outside, and that
> little cloud over there, it looks just like a gnome atop a
> robo-bird-thingy...it's going to take some time to recover.
>
>
>

LOL, your post gets the award for dumbest post.

WoW doesn't even have CLOSE to the problems and downtime of EVERY other
MMORPG on the market. They have less problems, with twice the
subscribers (would be more but they quit selling new copies) of any
other one out there.

--
Rob Berryhill
 
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"Rob Berryhill" <rob_berryhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1c670d952efc94cd989683@news.central.cox.net...
> In article <kNbLd.805$Ck1.238556@news20.bellglobal.com>,
> nowhere@lalaland.ca says...
> > I'm really tired of this game's technical issues. Anyone else find that
> > there is more server down times or lag here than in other MMORPGs? My
> > subscription ends tomorrow, and I'm not going to renew. Gives me free
time
> > to live again, yipee, I feel reborn. The sky is so blue outside, and
that
> > little cloud over there, it looks just like a gnome atop a
> > robo-bird-thingy...it's going to take some time to recover.
> >
> >
> >
>
> LOL, your post gets the award for dumbest post.
>
> WoW doesn't even have CLOSE to the problems and downtime of EVERY other
> MMORPG on the market. They have less problems, with twice the
> subscribers (would be more but they quit selling new copies) of any
> other one out there.

Hmmm. I started playing CoH soon after it launched, and I don't recall
downtime anything near what WoW subscribers are experiencing.

Perhaps you are overgeneralizing?
 
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"Rob Berryhill" <rob_berryhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <kNbLd.805$Ck1.238556@news20.bellglobal.com>,
> nowhere@lalaland.ca says...
>> I'm really tired of this game's technical issues. Anyone else find that
>> there is more server down times or lag here than in other MMORPGs? My
>> subscription ends tomorrow, and I'm not going to renew. Gives me free
>> time
>> to live again, yipee, I feel reborn. The sky is so blue outside, and
>> that
>> little cloud over there, it looks just like a gnome atop a
>> robo-bird-thingy...it's going to take some time to recover.
>>
>>
>>
>
> LOL, your post gets the award for dumbest post.
>

LOL, your post doesn't deserve my attention.
 
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> LOL, your post gets the award for dumbest post.

I think yours is the dumbest , sorry.

Everyone knows Blizzard is having a hard time with their servers, wake up.
They even give free days of playing because of all the troubles they have.

And btw , I cant remember seing a single server down in DAOC except for
scheduled patchs.
 
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"Rob Berryhill" <rob_berryhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> WoW doesn't even have CLOSE to the problems and downtime of EVERY other
> MMORPG on the market.

Um, Rob. Your extreme fanboyism is really going off the deepend now. Relax
and stop taking personally every single negative comment about your baby.
Yes, it's a fun game. But come on, when you start denying reality you know
it's time to get a grip.

--
Bob Perez

"Men do not quit playing because they grow old; they grow old because they
quit playing."
- Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes
 
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:51:34 -0500, "Grackle" <nowhere@lalaland.ca>
wrote:

>I'm really tired of this game's technical issues. Anyone else find that
>there is more server down times or lag here than in other MMORPGs? My
>subscription ends tomorrow, and I'm not going to renew. Gives me free time
>to live again, yipee, I feel reborn. The sky is so blue outside, and that
>little cloud over there, it looks just like a gnome atop a
>robo-bird-thingy...it's going to take some time to recover.

Sounds like somebody didn't play Ultima Online any time around launch.
Or Anarchy Online. Or Star Wars: Galaxies. Or Horizons. Or even
Everquest, though that one wasn't nearly as bad as the others.

Seriously, WoW is probably the second smoothest launch in online
gaming history, next to Asheron's Call.
 
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>Sounds like somebody didn't play Ultima Online any time around launch.
>Or Anarchy Online. Or Star Wars: Galaxies. Or Horizons. Or even
>Everquest, though that one wasn't nearly as bad as the others.

I was going to say this, and then... well, you said it for me.

C//
 
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"drocket" <drocket@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:51:34 -0500, "Grackle" <nowhere@lalaland.ca>
> wrote:
>
>>I'm really tired of this game's technical issues. Anyone else find that
>>there is more server down times or lag here than in other MMORPGs? My
>>subscription ends tomorrow, and I'm not going to renew. Gives me free
>>time
>>to live again, yipee, I feel reborn. The sky is so blue outside, and that
>>little cloud over there, it looks just like a gnome atop a
>>robo-bird-thingy...it's going to take some time to recover.
>
> Sounds like somebody didn't play Ultima Online any time around launch.
> Or Anarchy Online. Or Star Wars: Galaxies. Or Horizons. Or even
> Everquest, though that one wasn't nearly as bad as the others.
>
> Seriously, WoW is probably the second smoothest launch in online
> gaming history, next to Asheron's Call.
>

Asheron's Call had the most reliable server time of anything I remember
since. Even if WoW is down rarely, in the past month it has been down at
very inconvenient times, like my prime playing time. Today, Sunday
afternoon, my world was no longer on the list. Very annoying. The longest
I've seen the login announcement screen not announcing some problem is about
three days in a row.
 
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"drocket" <drocket@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sounds like somebody didn't play Ultima Online any time around launch.
> Or Anarchy Online. Or Star Wars: Galaxies. Or Horizons. Or even
> Everquest, though that one wasn't nearly as bad as the others.

Yep, Ultima Online's lag issues were probably the worst of any of these.
Anarchy Online's launch was worse in the sense that the game was full of
bugs, particularly with missions. SWG's launch was worlds better than any of
the others in terms of being able to play. They did have problems the first
day or two. But guys, this is January, and WoW's been out since, what,
November? And they're still having major problems that require 16-hour
downtimes for hot fixes, long queues (30-40 mins) to get online to popular
servers, and warning signon messages about losing items in the Auction
houses, etc.

--
Bob Perez

"Men do not quit playing because they grow old; they grow old because they
quit playing."
- Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes
 
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"Grackle" <nowhere@lalaland.ca> wrote in message
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> I'm really tired of this game's technical issues. Anyone else find that

what a coincidence i tried to log in to cancel EQ2 and Lava storm was down


choad
 
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>From: "Grackle" nowhere@lalaland.ca
>Date: 1/30/2005 12:51 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <kNbLd.805$Ck1.238556@news20.bellglobal.com>
>
>I'm really tired of this game's technical issues. Anyone else find that
>there is more server down times or lag here than in other MMORPGs? My
>subscription ends tomorrow, and I'm not going to renew. Gives me free time
>to live again, yipee, I feel reborn. The sky is so blue outside, and that
>little cloud over there, it looks just like a gnome atop a
>robo-bird-thingy...it's going to take some time to recover.
>

Sorry to hear you are having that much trouble, thus far the game runs pretty
smooth for me.


-Well, God was my co-pilot....but we crashed into a mountain and I had to eat
Him.

www.atar.com/alexmars (yet another useless web site)
 
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"Alexander Mars" <alexmars@aol.comspamnerf> wrote in message
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> >From: "Grackle" nowhere@lalaland.ca
>>Date: 1/30/2005 12:51 PM Pacific Standard Time
>>Message-id: <kNbLd.805$Ck1.238556@news20.bellglobal.com>
>>
>>I'm really tired of this game's technical issues. Anyone else find that
>>there is more server down times or lag here than in other MMORPGs? My
>>subscription ends tomorrow, and I'm not going to renew. Gives me free
>>time
>>to live again, yipee, I feel reborn. The sky is so blue outside, and that
>>little cloud over there, it looks just like a gnome atop a
>>robo-bird-thingy...it's going to take some time to recover.
>>
>
> Sorry to hear you are having that much trouble, thus far the game runs
> pretty
> smooth for me.
>
>
> -Well, God was my co-pilot....but we crashed into a mountain and I had to
> eat
> Him.
>
> www.atar.com/alexmars (yet another useless web site)
>
>

Ran flawlessly tonight, lot's of fun in a quest (with an excellent group).
What can I say, when it's good, it's real good, when I can't log in after a
long day of work, it really pisses me off. Cancelling now, I still have a
lvl 34 char waiting for me when I re-subscribe, and it's still the best
MMORPG I've played in a long time. But it's good to take a break sometimes.
 
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"Bob Perez" <myfirstname@thecomdomaincalledSHADOWPIKE> wrote in message
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>
> "drocket" <drocket@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:83lqv0p0hslhagtrgajjcu2vsqp7l6qqq7@4ax.com...
>
> > Sounds like somebody didn't play Ultima Online any time around launch.
> > Or Anarchy Online. Or Star Wars: Galaxies. Or Horizons. Or even
> > Everquest, though that one wasn't nearly as bad as the others.

Lets just say I had tons of experience questing. Prepare to be frustrated.

Broken Encounters (mobs break, no credit)
Camping (almost as bad as EQ1 camping, and much less civil)
Unspawning mobs (unless you play right after server reset)
Broken Quest updates (See : Mastery Quests)
Instance Zones require 3-6 (or even 12 or more) to enter.
Spend hours LFG
Can't do any quest mobs post 20 without group.
Spend hours LFG.
Greyed out quest mobs (can't complete quests.. aka Languages)
Nerfs! (ooh, you're too powerful)
Spend hours LFG
Working as intended.
Tradeskills borked
Oh, that staff you need to finish the axe quest? well, it can't be
made.

Overall, I stopped having fun about level 30, at about 600 completed quests.
Then it became an impossible grind. Waiting 3 days for Bloodtalon, Wasting
everyone's time in Cove only to have octo break, Unable to get mobs to spawn
in RoV. I'd rather play a 'kiddie game' that WORKS than try and work around
broken quests..

All the fanboys will cry 'It's a new game, they will fix it'. Well, guess
what, If I spend 4 hours getting a group together to try and do octogorgon
(p.s. it's GREY to everyone), so I can advance quest.. (ooh, wait, need a
group to even get to zone to do it), only to find it's broken, what have I
ended up with? Hmm.. I'm 4 hours older, and much wiser. I stopped playing
the game for the simple reason that it's broken for questers. There is no
solo play, there never has been solo play, and there never will be solo
play. Unless you can live in moms basement, you can't put in the time
required to get a group to do an instance to advance your quest on later
levels..

But, good luck anyway.. I'm only 33 in that other game, but I'm still having
a blast. Can get a sense of accomplishment when I can only play 1 hour or so
at night. Yes, quests are simpler, but, guess what, they are doable!. Maybe
I'll hit 60 in 2 months, and get bored, but I don't see myself getting
FRUSTRATED in that 'other game' like I did here.
 
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Grackle wrote:
> I'm really tired of this game's technical issues. Anyone else find
> that there is more server down times or lag here than in other
> MMORPGs?

No, I've had practically no down time at all. And so could you and just
about anyone else having issues if you'd have been willing to move to a
low/medium population server, most likely.

--
chainbreaker

If you need to email, then chainbreaker (naturally) at comcast dot
net--that's "net" not "com"--should do it.
 
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Allan C Cybulskie wrote:
> Hmmm. I started playing CoH soon after it launched, and I don't
> recall downtime anything near what WoW subscribers are experiencing.
>
> Perhaps you are overgeneralizing?

Some highly overpopulated servers are indeed having some problems.

I played CoH shortly after it launched, too, and the problems I've had on
the WoW server I'm playing on are similar to what I experienced during the
month I played CoH--maybe not even so much. I know I don't experience as
much general lag and as many disconnects as I did while playing CoH.


--
chainbreaker

If you need to email, then chainbreaker (naturally) at comcast dot
net--that's "net" not "com"--should do it.
 
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"Grackle" <nowhere@lalaland.ca> writes:

> I'm really tired of this game's technical issues. Anyone else find that
> there is more server down times or lag here than in other MMORPGs? My
> subscription ends tomorrow, and I'm not going to renew. Gives me free time
> to live again, yipee, I feel reborn. The sky is so blue outside, and that
> little cloud over there, it looks just like a gnome atop a
> robo-bird-thingy...it's going to take some time to recover.

Every time I want to play I can login and play. No problems.

--
Scott Streeter
ss@wpi.edu
http://www.wpi.edu/~ss/
 
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Bob Perez wrote:
> day or two. But guys, this is January, and WoW's been out since, what,
> November? And they're still having major problems that require 16-hour
> downtimes for hot fixes, long queues (30-40 mins) to get online to popular
> servers, and warning signon messages about losing items in the Auction
> houses, etc.

For what it's worth, the server I play on has some minor
very-liveable lag issues, and none of the other stuff.
People who are packed onto over-crowded servers do have
a legitimate gripe, but the way I'd solve it if it was me
would be to implement the often-discussed migration tool
to let people find happier hunting grounds. Then maybe
open up a couple more nodes and let people roam where they
may.

--
Nathan Engle Computer Support, IUB Psych Dept
nengle@indiana.edu http://mypage.iu.edu/~nengle
"Some Assembly Required"
 
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:27:25 -0500, chainbreaker wrote:

> Grackle wrote:
>> I'm really tired of this game's technical issues. Anyone else find
>> that there is more server down times or lag here than in other
>> MMORPGs?
>
> No, I've had practically no down time at all. And so could you and just
> about anyone else having issues if you'd have been willing to move to a
> low/medium population server, most likely.

Why should the players have to suffer for Blizzard's failings? How loud
would people have screamed if SOE (or at the time Verant) had not gotten
things worked out and their response was to move to another server. There
is no excuse for that in my book. What if everyone came up with that idea
all at once? One server would be jammed and the rest would be low
populations - end result: same situation. Blizzard needs to step up, bite
the bullet and forcibly start moving people to lower population servers to
spread the load out a bit. It won't solve the problem (and will cause
additional, albeit minor, problems) but at least it may give them a bit
more time to work things out. FYI I play on Earthen Dawn and have *some*
lag problems, but not to the extent most people are having. Then again I
don't play too much anymore.
--
RJB
1/31/2005 10:18:50 AM

I bought some powdered water, but I don't know what to add to it.
--Steven Wright
 
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"chainbreaker" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:ctlbnt02udd@news2.newsguy.com...
> Grackle wrote:
>> I'm really tired of this game's technical issues. Anyone else find
>> that there is more server down times or lag here than in other
>> MMORPGs?
>
> No, I've had practically no down time at all. And so could you and just about anyone else having
> issues if you'd have been willing to move to a low/medium population server, most likely.
>
> --
> chainbreaker
>
> If you need to email, then chainbreaker (naturally) at comcast dot
> net--that's "net" not "com"--should do it.

I am on my 3rd server now. The first server I picked a medium just in case the population problems
of DAoC happened which did not take long to have a queue. Then I picked a low population server, and
it went red ("high") with a server queue. Then I picked another low pop server. I don't plan on
moving again. On the others, I had multiple low level characters, I didn't do things quite right, so
not entirely upset at switching. I have been doing a lot of tradeskills on my current server, and I
have a few good characters going. If I see a queue again, it's time to /cancel.

What really concerns me is that I now experience very distrubing lag during peak hours. The server
is now in the red (high pop), and about every night during 6 EST to 11 EST, there are severe bouts
of lag. What you see on screen is a vague suggestion of what is really happening. 15 seconds to cast
an instant spell. It's not often that bad. Usually, it's like you are on 2-4 second delay.
 
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"Lopez" <lopez_1_99@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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<snip high caffiene rant>

Sounds like that EQ2 isn't for you, is it? So, what exactly is your point
here on the topic of WoW's downtime?

LOL dude you need to seriously chill out and relax with the realization that
it's Ok for some people to have likes and dislikes alike with respect to
both games. EQ2's got all of the problems you cite and others. An equally
motivated EQ2 fanboy could cite all of WoW's and we'd be right back where we
started: laughing at both extremists.

--
Bob Perez

"Men do not quit playing because they grow old; they grow old because they
quit playing."
- Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes
 
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"Nathan Engle" <nengle@indiana.edu> wrote in message
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> For what it's worth, the server I play on has some minor
> very-liveable lag issues, and none of the other stuff.
> People who are packed onto over-crowded servers do have
> a legitimate gripe, but the way I'd solve it if it was me
> would be to implement the often-discussed migration tool
> to let people find happier hunting grounds. Then maybe
> open up a couple more nodes and let people roam where they
> may.

That's what I'm hoping will happen. Unfortunately, the reason my wife and I
chose to play on the server we did is because our son plays there and it's
really the primary reason we play, so we can game online with him. The
reason *he*'s there is because all his friends are there, and so on, and
thus begins the chain of dependencies that will only be broken if everyone
agrees to pack up and move at once, that's if Blizzard even offers up that
option. I'm left wondering why Blizzard even allowed new characters to be
made on servers that couldn't handle them. Anyway, that's our situation and
at this point the benefits still sufficiently outweigh the downsides, so we
wait every night 30-40 minutes to log on and just enjoy less time actually
playing, but we do enjoy it. Fanboys like Berryhill who insist that there's
nothing wrong with his baby will remain in denial, but ... what else is new?
:)

--
Bob Perez

"Men do not quit playing because they grow old; they grow old because they
quit playing."
- Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes
 
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In article <HcdLd.1554$Ck1.268878@news20.bellglobal.com>,
"Grackle" <nowhere@lalaland.ca> wrote:

> > LOL, your post gets the award for dumbest post.

> LOL, your post doesn't deserve my attention.

And yet... <G>

--
Please take off your shoes before arriving at my in-box.
I will not, no matter how "good" the deal, patronise any business which sends
unsolicited commercial e-mail or that advertises in discussion newsgroups.
 
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"chainbreaker" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> No, I've had practically no down time at all. And so could you and just
> about anyone else having issues if you'd have been willing to move to a
> low/medium population server, most likely.

Easy for you to say. I chose the server I did because my son plays there and
the primary reason my wife and I play WoW is to be able to play online with
him. He chose the server because ALL of his friends played there, and have
since day one, when no one knew which servers were going to be the most
crowded. All in all, we're willing to put up with the significant ongoing
technical problems and the nightly waits in the queue for 30-40 minutes just
to log in, because we still think it's a net positive experience. Your
flippant attitude about our choice of where to play, as if it were my fault
and I am the one creating my problems, is making you sound pretty fanboyish.
Have you lost your sense of objectivity here?

--
Bob Perez

"Men do not quit playing because they grow old; they grow old because they
quit playing."
- Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes
 
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