Your Experience with Windows 10

[guanyu210379]

After about 1 week on using Win8.2 intensively, I am still unsure about to keep it or not.
It is better than Win8/8.1 and slightly less good than Win7 but still highly sucks due to those built-in spy-wares.
You can disable them but this is still sucks.
I want to throw Win8.2 and roll back to Win7 but DX12 is the future and I am using the PC mainly for games.
This is a really hard decision and I have only 30 days time.

 

[Darkbreeze]

The 30 day limit is only if you want to automatically roll back. So long as you have your installation media and product key, you can manually reinstall your older system any time you want.

 

[guanyu210379]

@darkbreeze:
That is not what I understood. Please correct me if I am wrong.
What I understood:
Your Win7 or Win8/8.1 keys will be invalid after you have used Win10 for more than 30 days. This means, going back to Win7 after 30days, you can not activate your Win7 or Win8/8.1 anymore, even if you are using an installation CD from scratch.
Microsoft wants to prevent you from using your older Windows version on another PC.

 

[USAFRet]

@darkbreeze:
That is not what I understood. Please correct me if I am wrong.
What I understood:
Your Win7 or Win8/8.1 keys will be invalid after you have used Win10 for more than 30 days. This means, going back to Win7 after 30days, you can not activate your Win7 or Win8/8.1 anymore, even if you are using an installation CD from scratch.
Microsoft wants to prevent you from using your older Windows version on another PC.

Where have you read this? Do you have a link for it?

 

[guanyu210379]

I know I have not tried it yet and this is still uncertain but...

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/windows-10-revert-os,news-50897.html

"At this point, then, we aren't certain if you can return to your old OS by using a clean install, because it is possible that Microsoft will invalidate old activation codes after that first month. This would seem in some way to align with Microsoft's upgrade deal, as you can only get your free Windows 10 by upgrading from your old OS; you can't use an old activation code. "

 

[USAFRet]

I know I have not tried it yet and this is still uncertain but...

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/windows-10-revert-os,news-50897.html

"At this point, then, we aren't certain if you can return to your old OS by using a clean install, because it is possible that Microsoft will invalidate old activation codes after that first month. This would seem in some way to align with Microsoft's upgrade deal, as you can only get your free Windows 10 by upgrading from your old OS; you can't use an old activation code. "

The 30 days is due to Windows.old autodeleting after 30 days. As it was in previous versions.
I've not seen anything official regarding your old OS license becoming absolutely null and void after 30 days.

 

[Nikolay Iliev]

Windows 10 is meant to boot faster and perform better in games....

It didn't for me, also had driver issues -_-

My Windows 10 Pro is crashing randomly. Always the same error: THREAD_STUCK_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER. Can anyone help.

 

[Mike BD]

Windows 10 is meant to boot faster and perform better in games....

It didn't for me, also had driver issues -_-

My Windows 10 Pro is crashing randomly. Always the same error: THREAD_STUCK_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER. Can anyone help.

I went so too...For me was the default (original) audio driver.

 

[Nikolay Iliev]

Windows 10 is meant to boot faster and perform better in games....

It didn't for me, also had driver issues -_-

My Windows 10 Pro is crashing randomly. Always the same error: THREAD_STUCK_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER. Can anyone help.

I went so too...For me was the default (original) audio driver.

Can you tell me where to look for out-dated drivers. In my case when I start a game it crashes. In my opinion it is a video driver.

 

[Archgaull]

One thing to note: The hidden admin account (the one accessed via cmd) is vastly different from it's function in Win7/8. If you're using that account, there's a good chance that is causing a lot of issues.

 

[unplanned bacon]

is the game bar working for anybody? I start a fullscreen game and press Win + G, nothing happens/ If I play windowed, it errors out when recording

 

[Darkbreeze]

My Windows 10 Pro is crashing randomly. Always the same error: THREAD_STUCK_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER. Can anyone help.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2740176/nvidia-drivers-windows.html


If you're card is AMD based, then of course you'll want to use the AMD drivers rather than the Nvidia.

 

[Nikolay Iliev]

My Windows 10 Pro is crashing randomly. Always the same error: THREAD_STUCK_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER. Can anyone help.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2740176/nvidia-drivers-windows.html


If you're card is AMD based, then of course you'll want to use the AMD drivers rather than the Nvidia.

I want to ask if you think the GPU and its drivers is the problem . Is it possible to be anything else. In that case Am I supposed to uninstall display driver and install the latest AMD drivers or ... something else.

 

[Mike BD]

Something else,update it.

 

[bytemaster]

Horrible, it takes about a minute of black screen before is shows the log in screen which itself lasts about 30 seconds. Once loaded it takes about another minute to settle even with minimum start up programs and services. I downgraded to 7 which I can use 30 seconds after powering up. 2 out of 10.

How long did you leave it up? Windows 10, like most Microsoft installers for the last several years, continues to do optimization and clean up long after it lets you log in for the first time. Windows also learns how your system boots and optimizes it for the future. It is likely your Windows 7 boot process had optimized itself pretty well. Windows 10 had not booted enough times to know how to optimize the boot order yet.

 

[bytemaster]

I know I have not tried it yet and this is still uncertain but...

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/windows-10-revert-os,news-50897.html

"At this point, then, we aren't certain if you can return to your old OS by using a clean install, because it is possible that Microsoft will invalidate old activation codes after that first month. This would seem in some way to align with Microsoft's upgrade deal, as you can only get your free Windows 10 by upgrading from your old OS; you can't use an old activation code. "

The 30 days is due to Windows.old autodeleting after 30 days. As it was in previous versions.
I've not seen anything official regarding your old OS license becoming absolutely null and void after 30 days.

I actually read the opposite on Microsoft's own forums by an admin. They will let you reinstall your old OS and then upgrade again later.

 

[orlbuckeye]

I know I have not tried it yet and this is still uncertain but...

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/windows-10-revert-os,news-50897.html

"At this point, then, we aren't certain if you can return to your old OS by using a clean install, because it is possible that Microsoft will invalidate old activation codes after that first month. This would seem in some way to align with Microsoft's upgrade deal, as you can only get your free Windows 10 by upgrading from your old OS; you can't use an old activation code. "

The 30 days is due to Windows.old autodeleting after 30 days. As it was in previous versions.
I've not seen anything official regarding your old OS license becoming absolutely null and void after 30 days.

I actually read the opposite on Microsoft's own forums by an admin. They will let you reinstall your old OS and then upgrade again later.

http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/windows-10-upgrade-and-installation-faq-we-figured-out-who-pays-and-who-doesnt

MS gives you 30 days to downgrade. After the 30 days you have to do a full install (you just can't use the downgrade method) . When I upgraded my machine a Dell utility came up and asked if I wanted to make a system restore USB flash drive. I did that and made a DVD from the ISO.

 

[IaMaBooZeR]

one thing I noticed about Win 10 is that you can install it free to any new or reformatted hard drive without an installation key. simply chose to "skip this step" every time you're prompted for the key. Windows will still activate automatically. I imagine it's free because they couldn't justify all the spying and selling of your info, if u paid $99.99 for it.

 

[Rafael Mestdag]

Apart from the 8.1 graphics(Why??) I'm finding Win10 very good, no BSODs to report, so far it's been stable and functional. Oh, there's another problem with the updates, there should be an option to limit the updates easily, like on Win7. I seem to have found a way around it but in a very complicated way not everyone will be able to find out, other than that I'm liking Win10 very much, thank you!

 

[USAFRet]

Apart from the 8.1 graphics(Why??) I'm finding Win10 very good, no BSODs to report, so far it's been stable and functional. Oh, there's another problem with the updates, there should be an option to limit the updates easily, like on Win7. I seem to have found a way around it but in a very complicated way not everyone will be able to find out, other than that I'm liking Win10 very much, thank you!

1. Is this Win 10 Home or Pro?
2. Share the wealth... What is this method?

 

[Archgaull]

It seems rather straightforward to me. This is on Windows 10 Pro.

Cortana > Windows Update Settings > Advanced Options > Defer Updates.

 

[The_Prophecy]

It seems rather straightforward to me. This is on Windows 10 Pro.

Cortana > Windows Update Settings > Advanced Options > Defer Updates.

That will only prevent the install of updates with new features. Security updates are pushed regardless.You can define at what time of day the system will reboot so as not to disrupt something you are working on (Windows defaults to something like 3:30am the following day), but they get installed regardless.

 

[USAFRet]

It seems rather straightforward to me. This is on Windows 10 Pro.

Cortana > Windows Update Settings > Advanced Options > Defer Updates.

Which is why I asked Home or Pro. Home does not have that option.
And as noted, 'defer' is the key word. Not 'stop'.

 

[Rafael Mestdag]

Apart from the 8.1 graphics(Why??) I'm finding Win10 very good, no BSODs to report, so far it's been stable and functional. Oh, there's another problem with the updates, there should be an option to limit the updates easily, like on Win7. I seem to have found a way around it but in a very complicated way not everyone will be able to find out, other than that I'm liking Win10 very much, thank you!

1. Is this Win 10 Home or Pro?
2. Share the wealth... What is this method?

Simply "Defer Updates" didn't cut it for me. By the way mine is Win10 Pro.

First off you need to go into your Device Manager(right click on the Windows symbol) and then once there, double click on the device that's being wrongly updated by Win10(graphics card in my case), then you click on the "Details" tab and pick from the drop-down list named "Property" the "Hardware Ids". Right click on the first line and copy it.

Now what I did was I typed "gpedit.msc" on Run and then under "Local Computer Policy" -->"Computer Configuration"-->"Administrative Templates"-->"System"-->Device Installation"-->"Device Installation Restrictions"

When there, I doubled clicked on "Prevent installations of devices that match any of these devices IDs", clicked on "Enable" and then under Options clicked on "Show", then I pasted the ID I got from Device Manager on there. That's it!

PS: You might want to disable "Prevent installation of devices not described by other policy settings", I did it.


So far do good, but I guess I'll have to wait until the next update to find out whether it's worked or not ;-)

 

[USAFRet]

Simply "Defer Updates" didn't cut it for me. By the way mine is Win10 Pro.

First off you need to go into your Device Manager(right click on the Windows symbol) and then once there, double click on the device that's being wrongly updated by Win10(graphics card in my case), then you click on the "Details" tab and pick from the drop-down list named "Property" the "Hardware Ids". Right click on the first line and copy it.

Now what I did was I typed "gpedit.msc" on Run and then under "Local Computer Policy" -->"Computer Configuration"-->"Administrative Templates"-->"System"-->Device Installation"-->"Device Installation Restrictions"

When there, I doubled clicked on "Prevent installations of devices that match any of these devices IDs", clicked on "Enable" and then under Options clicked on "Show", then I pasted the ID I got from Device Manager on there. That's it!

PS: You might want to disable "Prevent installation of devices not described by other policy settings", I did it.


So far do good, but I guess I'll have to wait until the next update to find out whether it's worked or not ;-)

OK...thats for updates to a specific device, not Windows updates in general.
Whole different thing.