Your Experience with Windows 10

[randomizer]

What is the point of the "Show Libraries" option in Explorer's context menu? The libraries are visible whether it's checked or not.

 

[unplanned bacon]

My experience is Error 80240020

Guess I'm staying on 8.1 then. Reserved almost two months ago, still nothing

 

[unplanned bacon]

Personally, I never understood the obsession with the Start menu.

Most used applications pinned to the Taskbar. For everything else, Win+S.

I don't get it either. I use OSX and 8.1. Neither have a start menu and I am perfectly fine with that. At the same time I use 7 occasionally and there's a start menu. Again, I am fine with that too. All three work. Adapt, people

EDIT: Like you, I use Windows + S to get everywhere in 8.1 and Spotlight in OSX to get to my documents (everything else I use regularly is in the dock, my desktop is empty and rarely do I actually have to go in to launchpad)

 

[randomizer]

EDIT: Like you, I use Windows + S to get everywhere in 8.1...

That's one too many keystrokes mate. You can search straight from the Start screen, so you don't need the S

 

[unplanned bacon]

I started using the Windows 8 RTM about a month before it shipped. And having those apps on your machine is one thing. You aren't forced to use any of them (and on that specific point, if you love Apple, you're a GIANT hypocrite)

who the hell mentioned apple? the one time i tried OSX in 2003 it was worse than any previous version of Windows i had used. that lasted about 2 months and was more than likely the last time. how did my writing about wanting slimmed down versions of an operating system bring apple to your mind?

don't come here thinking you have some revelation to lay down that will change everyone's expectations or personal hopes and opinions for an operating system. i started with DOS on an Apple II over 25 years ago so i know what to expect from operating systems and that what i want is unlikely to happen the way that i'd like it to.
you are going to prove me wrong by stating that one of the things totally unneeded on my system can be removed? wow, that's still not the point.
someone has to be pretty ignorant to look at a box that says for "base line version", "home user", "professional user", "corporate user" and to be totally baffled so as to pick the wrong version. you don't have much faith in people's ability to read, maybe you should go into advertising\marketing so you can give us more of the same.

all you seem to be stating is to deal with it, who cares, i like junk on my system.

Try it again, OSX is good now (can't speak for how it was in 2003, first used it last year)

 

[unplanned bacon]

EDIT: Like you, I use Windows + S to get everywhere in 8.1...

That's one too many keystrokes mate. You can search straight from the Start screen, so you don't need the S

I'm not in the Start screen 90% of the time so I need the Windows key to bring up the search immediately while skipping the start screen. If I was in start screen I'd just start typing

 

[xaephod]

Installation was a nightmare. The installation would fail literally an hour into it, and the MS site was pathetic, don't they have anyone there who can write a help file? I had to search and after disconnecting all my additional hard drives, I figured out I should try to disconnect my external USB wifi adapter. That works. Why didn't the installation program tell me to unplug it? Sounds so simple and I figure at least 10-15 million people use external wifi adapters. None of the testing brought that up as a possible issue?

It may only be that specific chipset, not WiFi adapters in general.

Also, wtf is with the stupid Windows update that installs an older Nvidia driver than the one I already installed? Had to reinstall it, but my Nvidia experience is not working.

10 likely uses different drivers to 7/8. If you tried to use the drivers that were already installed, stuff would be broken. So MS uses whatever the newest drivers for 10 are that are WHQL-certified and in Windows Update.

I installed the newest Windows 10 drivers from Nvidia directly, which were then overwritten by Windows update to an earlier version.

 

[Woody87]

I've so far installed Windows 10 on five devices...and failed to install it on a sixth.

Two of those devices were virtual machines used for testing. One of those VMs was my technical preview copy which I've been testing since last fall when it was first available. Microsoft has now activated it permanently which is nice I suppose....although the licence is stuck to a VM and not much use to me.

The other VM was an upgrade from 8.1 and it went pretty smooth...I used a ISO file I downloaded directly from Microsoft on the host machine (running 8.1 Pro). Initially it wouldn't allow me to install because the VM video driver was not supported...I disabled the video driver, installed Windows 10, then reactivated the video driver...no issues. I was using an older version of VMware player to run the VM.

The third machine was a full hardware desktop running an AMD A10-6800K APU with a dedicated NVidia 275GTX (older card with outdated drivers) and 8GB RAM. The upgrade went pretty smooth except the WiFi card failed after several hours running Windows 10...shutting down, pulling and reinserting the physical card in the PCI slot solved the problem...coincidence? Maybe but the point is I had a hardware problem within hours of the update. It's been several days and no more issues. This particular PC suffered occasional BSOD prior to the upgrade anyway. This install was completed using the "Get Windows 10" upgrade program and just happened to get the automatic update on the first day of release. I have about 9 Windows 8.1 PCs and this is the only one that scored the scheduled update already....the others I had to update manually.

The fourth install was on another older machine running a QX9550 slightly overclocked core 2 quad on a P35 motherboard and a newer AMD R7 graphics card with 4GB RAM. The upgrade took a very long time (much longer than on the A10 system) despite having a Samsung EVO SSD as the boot drive. The upgrade was completed using the Media Creation Tool from Microsoft to "Upgrade this PC." I tried upgrading using a USB installer I made from this same tool but it failed twice. With the latest AMD Catalyst drivers 15.71 this PC runs very well under Windows 10 with no significant issues.

The fifth install was on a Lenovo Yoga 2 Windows tablet. This is a relatively inexpensive entry level ten inch tablet with extraordinary battery life. It's not a speed demon with it's new generation Intel Atom Z3745 and 2GB RAM but it has a full HD display and micro SD card slot to supplement it's meager 32GB primary SSD boot drive. Despite it's modest specifications the Yoga 2 ran Windows 8.1 very well and this is exactly the type of device Windows 8's "metro" interface is designed for (the same reason Windows 8 annoyed desktop users is what made it great for tablets).

Several problems emerged with the Yoga 2...The install itself presented a problem because despite having downloaded the installer files for Windows 10 already it wouldn't install because it wasn't "my time" yet. These installer files took up a significant portion of the 32GB C drive. So I went into the "Get Windows 10" app and opted out...then deleted the installer files...turned off system restore and hibernate files to free up about 12.5 GB on the boot drive. I then ran the installer using the Media Creation Tool which downloaded the installer to C drive and began the upgrade...it quickly ran out of memory but it gave me the option to store files on an external drive during installation. I selected the 64GB micro SD card and continued.

Finally, after several hours, the Windows 10 upgrade was complete...I opted out of most of the annoyingly invasive privacy options and got to work. I was very disappointing in the slow performance of Windows 10 compared to Windows 8.1. In fact Windows 10 is so slow on this tablet it's barely usable. I also am very disappointed with the new "tablet mode" of Windows 10 because it's not nearly as user friendly as 8.1 start menu interface on a tablet and for some strange reason using tablet mode slows the performance of Windows 10 even further. It is so annoyingly laggy that it's sometimes impossible just to open and close windows or apps. Even the PIN login screen does some weird glitchy animations every time I log in to Windows 10. Switching between apps in Windows 10 tablet mode is far slower and more difficult than in Windows 8.1.

I'm going to give this new OS the benefit of the doubt for a couple weeks at least and attempt a clean install here to see if it improves things but this is a major undertaking for the non tech savvy person and I don't recommend most people upgrade their tablet PC to Windows 10 at this time. I have imaged the original install before upgrading so I'm ready to go back but I'm concernd about licencing issues. The Yoga 2 came with Windows 8.1 with Bing and now it has a retail licence of Windows 10 (which is weird) so I hope there will be no issues going back to 8.1.

The last PC I am attempting to upgrade is a 3 year old Acer Aspire laptop with a meager AMD C60 APU and 4GB RAM. This machine is a slow poke and sits on the shelf because no one wants tp play with it. It originally came with a Windows 7 licence and now is running 8.1. The installer has failed on my twice now becuase of compatibility issues but won't specify exactly why. The "Get Windows 10" app says it's compatible and has reserved my upgrade but won't run the compatibility checker for me again. I'm in the process of trying to force the update and see what happens. If Windows 10 runs well enough on this laptop it may give me some clues about the Yoga 2's slow Windows 10 performance.

 

[unplanned bacon]

There's some stuff that doesn't load in settings

 

[Darkbreeze]

Two nice things I've noticed after the upgrade, kinda random but I want to put it out there:

1) Multiple Monitors are a whole lot smoother now. I have a regular monitor as my main, and a TV as a second monitor. On Win 7, if the computer was on and I turned on the TV, my main monitor would go black for a couple seconds while the TV booted. It no longer does that, which is a very welcome change.

2) Seems to have actually fixed an issue with the Gameboy Emulator VBALink. On Win7, if you held the "fast forward" button (default is spacebar) for more than about 30 seconds, you would get an audio crackle through your speakers, even if the VBALink audio was muted or off. I no longer have this issue.

Mine still does it when the second monitor, my bigscreen tv (Actually the 3rd monitor) is turned on, but it's a much faster transition than before. Not that it was previously more than two seconds anyhow, but now it's more like a half second.

 

[Darkbreeze]

My experience is Error 80240020

Guess I'm staying on 8.1 then. Reserved almost two months ago, still nothing

Read the stickies. There's one on that exact problem.

http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-2740578/fix-80240020-error-installing-windows.html

 

[Darkbreeze]

installed the newest Windows 10 drivers from Nvidia directly, which were then overwritten by Windows update to an earlier version.

Aside from having a clean slater to start with, this is EXACTLY why you need to run the Wagnard tools display driver uninstaller FIRST. It changes a windows setting that disallows windows to automatically change display drivers in the future. It also makes sure there are no fragmented registry entries or supporting files remaining to gum up the works and cause problems with the operation of your new drivers once installed.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Also, just to reiterate, using the latest edition of Startisback or classic shell will fully return the start menu to Windows 7 or XP style shells if that's what you prefer. One of our moderators also found that you can get rid of the search function on the task bar entirely rather easily. It's easy to miss this option since we're not used to seeing it, but if you right click on the taskbar, then select "search", "hidden", poof, gone.

 

[unplanned bacon]

My experience is Error 80240020

Guess I'm staying on 8.1 then. Reserved almost two months ago, still nothing

Read the stickies. There's one on that exact problem.

http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-2740578/fix-80240020-error-installing-windows.html

The update got pushed out to me finally. Was updated and running within an hour or so. Only issue is one settings page didn't load (don't know how to get back to it) and taskbar was redrawing itself, but it's stopped now

 

[Darkbreeze]

Once you're satisfied that you're happy with Win10, I'd back up my data and files and do a clean install. Seems to resolve a lot of issues that are hanging around for upgrade users.

 

[unplanned bacon]

Seems weird they kept the 8.1 boot screen

 

[Ranjha Singh]

Seems weird they kept the 8.1 boot screen

to me this is whats happening in MS
Windows 7 finished version of Windows Vista
Windows 10 finished version of WIndows 8
so we should skip windows 11 and install Windows 12 in about 6 years when it comes out
Microsoft is making money out of people by calling windows 8.2 or 8.3 as windows 10 and they made money same way with windows 7 and Windows Vista

 

[Nimby]

DO NOT DO NOT INSTALL WINDOWS 10

I did and suddenly half my POGO online games would not work

Other posts on the net indicate Windows 10 or EDGE does not support plugins so Java won't work

Looks like I'd have to pay $100 t go back to Windows 8.1

MY SOLUTION: FIREFOX

 

[USAFRet]

DO NOT DO NOT INSTALL WINDOWS 10

I did and suddenly half my POGO online games would not work

Other posts on the net indicate Windows 10 or EDGE does not support plugins so Java won't work

Looks like I'd have to pay $100 t go back to Windows 8.1

MY SOLUTION: FIREFOX

You can still use FireFox in Windows 10.

 

[NoNoBadDog2]

I ran the insider builds on my laptop for several months. I upgraded two desktops, one running Windows 7 Home Premium and one running Windows 8,1 Professional.

The laptop never gave me any issues. Since it was Beta, I did a clean install. Never really had any issues with the OS, except that it would not enable all the features of my WD hard drive (the ability of the drive to sense a drop and park the heads). Had an exclamation point in Dvice manager, and never found a way around it.

On to the win7. The install went fine the first time, until I updated the AMD graphics drivers to the latest build. Upon restart, I lost my USB ports. Voila...no keyboard or mouse. I had to do a factory restore on the computer (windows 7), do all the updates, and then upgrade again. This was to Windows 10 home. This time, no problems.

My third upgrade was on a Windows 8.1 pro box. I started the upgrade from the WU screen, and after downloading and preparing files for installation, I received an error C1420127. I had to go into the registry and remove any subkeys in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WIMMount\Mounted Images. Rebooted, restarted and it upgraded without a hitch.

So far, besides the issues above, I have a very favorable impression of Windows 10. Of course I am still in the process of tweaking and getting everything just the way I like it.

 

[unplanned bacon]

Anyone got the game bar working? It tried to record, but failed and as soon as you full screen your game it stops :/
Guess I'll continue using Shadowplay

My Soundblaster ZXR control panel is dead

 

[Darkbreeze]

I don't know about the ZXR, but one of the mods mentioned that his older Xonar is working fine.


One thing I have noticed, although I'm still convinced there is a problem with the Edge browser, is that all my other browsers are clearly working faster. Overall I have to retract my previous statement that it didn't seem there were any performance differences. System response in almost everything seems faster, even without having done a clean install yet.

 

[olanof]

hi all, when installa the nvidia driver (all driver that i've installed had a cleaning installation, latest, 350.12 and 347.88) i find some freeze meanwhile surfing the web or open some programs. If i listen the music i can listen the freeze for few seconds.

thats an example of freeze.

its only 0.6 mb
http://www.mediafire.com/listen/js9o0moco3xsx4u/Track2.mp3


without nvidia driver and internal graphic card (i7 2600k) i dont find any problems. I dont know if its only nvida driver isseu or something more.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Run the DDU and reinstall, as outlined in about twenty threads so far, including this one. Simply uninstalling and reinstalling is not enough. Registry entries and leftover bits needs to be removed, which is what the Display driver uninstaller does.


http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2740176/nvidia-drivers-windows.html

 

[olanof]

All driver that i've try to install was cleaned by DDU, and the freeze and other still here, with latest and other driver that i've mentioned before. 🙁.

i dont know if you have listen the audio files, but these freeze is really annoying and i dont know how to remove.