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Unlike most of you I've left my credit card alone and have just stuck mainly
to conventional add on's where I can get into a 747 set the vertical speed
and let it climb to a set altitude (apart from aircraft such as the 727
where the old AP is a different procedure... and enjoyable)

However I've inherited a fancy unwanted 747-200. Perhaps somewhere in the
many pages of text the procedure lies- I can't find it- but the vertical
speed is like a figureless trim wheel plus or minus. and the altitude hold
holds the height at the time you switch it on. If I set the required height
and let it climb up to it on AP it just keeps climbing through and beyond.
Likewise I set the auto throttle at say 250 during initial climb with the
engaged light on it goes straight through to overspeed.

No trouble with ILS but if I set a lower height on AP nothing happens
until I trim the aircraft into descent then it doesnt stop at the lower
setting.

ILS works ok

Er how do you drive this thing excuse my iggorence (Pushback Classic) Any
URL reference appreciated. ....I've mastered the startup

Butts
 
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> Unlike most of you I've left my credit card alone and have just stuck
> mainly
to conventional add on's where I can get into a 747, set the REQUIRED
ALTITUDE etc

mistake sorry

Butts
 

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Ah Butts, you have just come across one of the best and probably the most
complicated add on aircraft on FS9.
Very steep learning curve but definitely worth the trouble to learn it.
First of all, make sure you utilise the Takeoff Calculator available for
free off the panelshop website.
www.panelshop.com
You need that to set your EPR among a few other things.
There is a very set order in which to do things and the vertical speed will
disconnect if things are not done properly. When this happens, your pitch
will remain constant and not attain your altitude. It will, as you said, go
straight through it.
The entire procedure is quite long and will take up too much space here for
a detailed explanation. I recommend the forum at:
http://panelshop.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=b42640897c83c1701434ca645bfd2d5b&showforum=21
Every single question to do with this product is found there and you will
have no problem in finding what you are looking for.
I will say again that the package you have is extremely complex and all must
be done exactly as it is in the real world. The person that designed the
aircraft has copped a bit of flack from people saying it is TOO real and
complicated. If you don't feel you are ready for such a package, stick to
the default planes but I guarantee you, once you do get the hang of it, you
will have no problem in flying it.
Just for the record, the first time I got this plane, it took me 3 hours to
go from cold and dark to airborne. Now it takes me no more than 20 minutes.


"donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:yRcZd.9489$1S4.1004089@news.xtra.co.nz...
>
>
>> Unlike most of you I've left my credit card alone and have just stuck
>> mainly
> to conventional add on's where I can get into a 747, set the REQUIRED
> ALTITUDE etc
>
> mistake sorry
>
> Butts
>
 
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Gee Goran I really appreciate your reply. I have just registered at that
addresss you gave me (above) and will study it carefully. I certainly had
my moments limping back to base with the gear still down (missed out on the
hydraulic board didn't I?) and one other time not being able to turn on the
ground... (dunno what I did there). I don't think you can get much faster
than 20 mins in the procedure unless you smarten those guys up in the
electrical carts down below (Australian labour?) ;-) I did enjoy showing
the start off the startup procedure to a friend and just swivelled the
excellent VC around to show the rear panel boards, swiching on the battery
from that viewpoint and the hydraulic board. Then swivelling to the
overhead panel to carry out the next function. At the same time I have all
those enviromental sounds from another add on chirping away. Makes you want
to store your suitcase somewhere!!

Thanks again mate
Butts





"Goran" <goranm@youwish.com> wrote in message
news:42356254$0$5595$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Ah Butts, you have just come across one of the best and probably the most
> complicated add on aircraft on FS9.
> Very steep learning curve but definitely worth the trouble to learn it.
> First of all, make sure you utilise the Takeoff Calculator available for
> free off the panelshop website.
> www.panelshop.com
> You need that to set your EPR among a few other things.
> There is a very set order in which to do things and the vertical speed
> will disconnect if things are not done properly. When this happens, your
> pitch will remain constant and not attain your altitude. It will, as you
> said, go straight through it.
> The entire procedure is quite long and will take up too much space here
> for a detailed explanation. I recommend the forum at:
> http://panelshop.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=b42640897c83c1701434ca645bfd2d5b&showforum=21
> Every single question to do with this product is found there and you will
> have no problem in finding what you are looking for.
> I will say again that the package you have is extremely complex and all
> must be done exactly as it is in the real world. The person that designed
> the aircraft has copped a bit of flack from people saying it is TOO real
> and complicated. If you don't feel you are ready for such a package,
> stick to the default planes but I guarantee you, once you do get the hang
> of it, you will have no problem in flying it.
> Just for the record, the first time I got this plane, it took me 3 hours
> to go from cold and dark to airborne. Now it takes me no more than 20
> minutes.
>
>
> "donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:yRcZd.9489$1S4.1004089@news.xtra.co.nz...
>>
>>
>>> Unlike most of you I've left my credit card alone and have just stuck
>>> mainly
>> to conventional add on's where I can get into a 747, set the REQUIRED
>> ALTITUDE etc
>>
>> mistake sorry
>>
>> Butts
>>
>
>
 

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Always remember F.E.A.H. for the RFP 742
Fuel
Electrics
APU
Hydraulics



"donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:QQmZd.9591$1S4.1022002@news.xtra.co.nz...
>
> Gee Goran I really appreciate your reply. I have just registered at that
> addresss you gave me (above) and will study it carefully. I certainly had
> my moments limping back to base with the gear still down (missed out on
> the hydraulic board didn't I?) and one other time not being able to turn
> on the ground... (dunno what I did there). I don't think you can get much
> faster than 20 mins in the procedure unless you smarten those guys up in
> the electrical carts down below (Australian labour?) ;-) I did enjoy
> showing the start off the startup procedure to a friend and just swivelled
> the excellent VC around to show the rear panel boards, swiching on the
> battery from that viewpoint and the hydraulic board. Then swivelling to
> the overhead panel to carry out the next function. At the same time I have
> all those enviromental sounds from another add on chirping away. Makes
> you want to store your suitcase somewhere!!
>
> Thanks again mate
> Butts
>
>
>
>
>
> "Goran" <goranm@youwish.com> wrote in message
> news:42356254$0$5595$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> Ah Butts, you have just come across one of the best and probably the most
>> complicated add on aircraft on FS9.
>> Very steep learning curve but definitely worth the trouble to learn it.
>> First of all, make sure you utilise the Takeoff Calculator available for
>> free off the panelshop website.
>> www.panelshop.com
>> You need that to set your EPR among a few other things.
>> There is a very set order in which to do things and the vertical speed
>> will disconnect if things are not done properly. When this happens, your
>> pitch will remain constant and not attain your altitude. It will, as you
>> said, go straight through it.
>> The entire procedure is quite long and will take up too much space here
>> for a detailed explanation. I recommend the forum at:
>> http://panelshop.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=b42640897c83c1701434ca645bfd2d5b&showforum=21
>> Every single question to do with this product is found there and you will
>> have no problem in finding what you are looking for.
>> I will say again that the package you have is extremely complex and all
>> must be done exactly as it is in the real world. The person that
>> designed the aircraft has copped a bit of flack from people saying it is
>> TOO real and complicated. If you don't feel you are ready for such a
>> package, stick to the default planes but I guarantee you, once you do get
>> the hang of it, you will have no problem in flying it.
>> Just for the record, the first time I got this plane, it took me 3 hours
>> to go from cold and dark to airborne. Now it takes me no more than 20
>> minutes.
>>
>>
>> "donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:yRcZd.9489$1S4.1004089@news.xtra.co.nz...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Unlike most of you I've left my credit card alone and have just stuck
>>>> mainly
>>> to conventional add on's where I can get into a 747, set the REQUIRED
>>> ALTITUDE etc
>>>
>>> mistake sorry
>>>
>>> Butts
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 
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Thanks. 1st question. The side views look like nice drawings on the VC
version where I prefer the realistic photographic work right down to the
rust. Apparently the earlier version was better and someone was asking
whether side views could be replaced. The forum went dead on that subject.
Have you seen anything on this topic?
Butts


"Goran" <goranm@youwish.com> wrote in message
news:42360c8e$0$5595$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Always remember F.E.A.H. for the RFP 742
> Fuel
> Electrics
> APU
> Hydraulics
>
>
>
> "donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:QQmZd.9591$1S4.1022002@news.xtra.co.nz...
>>
>> Gee Goran I really appreciate your reply. I have just registered at that
>> addresss you gave me (above) and will study it carefully. I certainly
>> had my moments limping back to base with the gear still down (missed out
>> on the hydraulic board didn't I?) and one other time not being able to
>> turn on the ground... (dunno what I did there). I don't think you can
>> get much faster than 20 mins in the procedure unless you smarten those
>> guys up in the electrical carts down below (Australian labour?) ;-) I
>> did enjoy showing the start off the startup procedure to a friend and
>> just swivelled the excellent VC around to show the rear panel boards,
>> swiching on the battery from that viewpoint and the hydraulic board.
>> Then swivelling to the overhead panel to carry out the next function. At
>> the same time I have all those enviromental sounds from another add on
>> chirping away. Makes you want to store your suitcase somewhere!!
>>
>> Thanks again mate
>> Butts
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Goran" <goranm@youwish.com> wrote in message
>> news:42356254$0$5595$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>> Ah Butts, you have just come across one of the best and probably the
>>> most complicated add on aircraft on FS9.
>>> Very steep learning curve but definitely worth the trouble to learn it.
>>> First of all, make sure you utilise the Takeoff Calculator available for
>>> free off the panelshop website.
>>> www.panelshop.com
>>> You need that to set your EPR among a few other things.
>>> There is a very set order in which to do things and the vertical speed
>>> will disconnect if things are not done properly. When this happens,
>>> your pitch will remain constant and not attain your altitude. It will,
>>> as you said, go straight through it.
>>> The entire procedure is quite long and will take up too much space here
>>> for a detailed explanation. I recommend the forum at:
>>> http://panelshop.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=b42640897c83c1701434ca645bfd2d5b&showforum=21
>>> Every single question to do with this product is found there and you
>>> will have no problem in finding what you are looking for.
>>> I will say again that the package you have is extremely complex and all
>>> must be done exactly as it is in the real world. The person that
>>> designed the aircraft has copped a bit of flack from people saying it is
>>> TOO real and complicated. If you don't feel you are ready for such a
>>> package, stick to the default planes but I guarantee you, once you do
>>> get the hang of it, you will have no problem in flying it.
>>> Just for the record, the first time I got this plane, it took me 3 hours
>>> to go from cold and dark to airborne. Now it takes me no more than 20
>>> minutes.
>>>
>>>
>>> "donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:yRcZd.9489$1S4.1004089@news.xtra.co.nz...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Unlike most of you I've left my credit card alone and have just stuck
>>>>> mainly
>>>> to conventional add on's where I can get into a 747, set the REQUIRED
>>>> ALTITUDE etc
>>>>
>>>> mistake sorry
>>>>
>>>> Butts
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 

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I think you would have to alter some lines in the panel.cfg and dig up some
old textures from the 1st Gen 747.
I personally don't like messing with the panel.cfg file. However, feel free
to start another post explaining that you did a search and it wasn't
resolved. Ed Green and Ralph Tofflemeire are very forthcoming and they are
the real experts on this plane, since Ralph is the one who created it...on
his own no less!




"donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dqoZd.9626$1S4.1022849@news.xtra.co.nz...
>
> Thanks. 1st question. The side views look like nice drawings on the VC
> version where I prefer the realistic photographic work right down to the
> rust. Apparently the earlier version was better and someone was asking
> whether side views could be replaced. The forum went dead on that
> subject. Have you seen anything on this topic?
> Butts
>
>
> "Goran" <goranm@youwish.com> wrote in message
> news:42360c8e$0$5595$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> Always remember F.E.A.H. for the RFP 742
>> Fuel
>> Electrics
>> APU
>> Hydraulics
>>
>>
>>
>> "donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:QQmZd.9591$1S4.1022002@news.xtra.co.nz...
>>>
>>> Gee Goran I really appreciate your reply. I have just registered at that
>>> addresss you gave me (above) and will study it carefully. I certainly
>>> had my moments limping back to base with the gear still down (missed out
>>> on the hydraulic board didn't I?) and one other time not being able to
>>> turn on the ground... (dunno what I did there). I don't think you can
>>> get much faster than 20 mins in the procedure unless you smarten those
>>> guys up in the electrical carts down below (Australian labour?) ;-) I
>>> did enjoy showing the start off the startup procedure to a friend and
>>> just swivelled the excellent VC around to show the rear panel boards,
>>> swiching on the battery from that viewpoint and the hydraulic board.
>>> Then swivelling to the overhead panel to carry out the next function. At
>>> the same time I have all those enviromental sounds from another add on
>>> chirping away. Makes you want to store your suitcase somewhere!!
>>>
>>> Thanks again mate
>>> Butts
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Goran" <goranm@youwish.com> wrote in message
>>> news:42356254$0$5595$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>> Ah Butts, you have just come across one of the best and probably the
>>>> most complicated add on aircraft on FS9.
>>>> Very steep learning curve but definitely worth the trouble to learn it.
>>>> First of all, make sure you utilise the Takeoff Calculator available
>>>> for free off the panelshop website.
>>>> www.panelshop.com
>>>> You need that to set your EPR among a few other things.
>>>> There is a very set order in which to do things and the vertical speed
>>>> will disconnect if things are not done properly. When this happens,
>>>> your pitch will remain constant and not attain your altitude. It will,
>>>> as you said, go straight through it.
>>>> The entire procedure is quite long and will take up too much space here
>>>> for a detailed explanation. I recommend the forum at:
>>>> http://panelshop.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=b42640897c83c1701434ca645bfd2d5b&showforum=21
>>>> Every single question to do with this product is found there and you
>>>> will have no problem in finding what you are looking for.
>>>> I will say again that the package you have is extremely complex and all
>>>> must be done exactly as it is in the real world. The person that
>>>> designed the aircraft has copped a bit of flack from people saying it
>>>> is TOO real and complicated. If you don't feel you are ready for such
>>>> a package, stick to the default planes but I guarantee you, once you do
>>>> get the hang of it, you will have no problem in flying it.
>>>> Just for the record, the first time I got this plane, it took me 3
>>>> hours to go from cold and dark to airborne. Now it takes me no more
>>>> than 20 minutes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:yRcZd.9489$1S4.1004089@news.xtra.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Unlike most of you I've left my credit card alone and have just stuck
>>>>>> mainly
>>>>> to conventional add on's where I can get into a 747, set the REQUIRED
>>>>> ALTITUDE etc
>>>>>
>>>>> mistake sorry
>>>>>
>>>>> Butts
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 
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Thanks again... I see there are 2 panels available analogue and tape and I
have yet to find out what this is all about Is there a trip switch
somewhere?

Butts

"Goran" <goranm@youwish.com> wrote in message
news:42361db8$0$22220$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>I think you would have to alter some lines in the panel.cfg and dig up some
>old textures from the 1st Gen 747.
> I personally don't like messing with the panel.cfg file. However, feel
> free to start another post explaining that you did a search and it wasn't
> resolved. Ed Green and Ralph Tofflemeire are very forthcoming and they
> are the real experts on this plane, since Ralph is the one who created
> it...on his own no less!
>
>
>
>
> "donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:dqoZd.9626$1S4.1022849@news.xtra.co.nz...
>>
>> Thanks. 1st question. The side views look like nice drawings on the VC
>> version where I prefer the realistic photographic work right down to the
>> rust. Apparently the earlier version was better and someone was asking
>> whether side views could be replaced. The forum went dead on that
>> subject. Have you seen anything on this topic?
>> Butts
>>
>>
>> "Goran" <goranm@youwish.com> wrote in message
>> news:42360c8e$0$5595$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>> Always remember F.E.A.H. for the RFP 742
>>> Fuel
>>> Electrics
>>> APU
>>> Hydraulics
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:QQmZd.9591$1S4.1022002@news.xtra.co.nz...
>>>>
>>>> Gee Goran I really appreciate your reply. I have just registered at
>>>> that addresss you gave me (above) and will study it carefully. I
>>>> certainly had my moments limping back to base with the gear still down
>>>> (missed out on the hydraulic board didn't I?) and one other time not
>>>> being able to turn on the ground... (dunno what I did there). I don't
>>>> think you can get much faster than 20 mins in the procedure unless you
>>>> smarten those guys up in the electrical carts down below (Australian
>>>> labour?) ;-) I did enjoy showing the start off the startup procedure
>>>> to a friend and just swivelled the excellent VC around to show the rear
>>>> panel boards, swiching on the battery from that viewpoint and the
>>>> hydraulic board. Then swivelling to the overhead panel to carry out the
>>>> next function. At the same time I have all those enviromental sounds
>>>> from another add on chirping away. Makes you want to store your
>>>> suitcase somewhere!!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again mate
>>>> Butts
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Goran" <goranm@youwish.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:42356254$0$5595$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>> Ah Butts, you have just come across one of the best and probably the
>>>>> most complicated add on aircraft on FS9.
>>>>> Very steep learning curve but definitely worth the trouble to learn
>>>>> it.
>>>>> First of all, make sure you utilise the Takeoff Calculator available
>>>>> for free off the panelshop website.
>>>>> www.panelshop.com
>>>>> You need that to set your EPR among a few other things.
>>>>> There is a very set order in which to do things and the vertical speed
>>>>> will disconnect if things are not done properly. When this happens,
>>>>> your pitch will remain constant and not attain your altitude. It
>>>>> will, as you said, go straight through it.
>>>>> The entire procedure is quite long and will take up too much space
>>>>> here for a detailed explanation. I recommend the forum at:
>>>>> http://panelshop.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=b42640897c83c1701434ca645bfd2d5b&showforum=21
>>>>> Every single question to do with this product is found there and you
>>>>> will have no problem in finding what you are looking for.
>>>>> I will say again that the package you have is extremely complex and
>>>>> all must be done exactly as it is in the real world. The person that
>>>>> designed the aircraft has copped a bit of flack from people saying it
>>>>> is TOO real and complicated. If you don't feel you are ready for such
>>>>> a package, stick to the default planes but I guarantee you, once you
>>>>> do get the hang of it, you will have no problem in flying it.
>>>>> Just for the record, the first time I got this plane, it took me 3
>>>>> hours to go from cold and dark to airborne. Now it takes me no more
>>>>> than 20 minutes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:yRcZd.9489$1S4.1004089@news.xtra.co.nz...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unlike most of you I've left my credit card alone and have just
>>>>>>> stuck mainly
>>>>>> to conventional add on's where I can get into a 747, set the REQUIRED
>>>>>> ALTITUDE etc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> mistake sorry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Butts
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 

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When you go into FS and the select aircraft menu, they are all bunched
together. I don't think you can purposefully make an aircraft with an
analog gauge into one with a tape gauge. They are not categorised into
analog or tape. But, they are easily separated into the tape and analog
gauges by their liveries. For that, you'll have to go into one of the
livery aircraft panel folders.
Eg.
On my hard drive, the KLM panel.cfg gauge is located in:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9\Aircraft\VMAX KLM\panel
That is just one of the liveries. In this folder, there is a panel.cfg file
which points to either an analog gauge or tape gauge in the RFP Panels
folder in the main FS9 directory. In this case, it's a tape gauge. This is
not a panel.cfg file in itself, just a file that points to the panel.cfg
file in RFP Panels. I think you may be able to change it to analog gauges,
I never really tried to be honest but I don't think you could have it point
to both gauges as it would get confused and not know which one to go to.
Hope this clears it up for you.


"donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eFrZd.9723$1S4.1028707@news.xtra.co.nz...
> Thanks again... I see there are 2 panels available analogue and tape and I
> have yet to find out what this is all about Is there a trip switch
> somewhere?
>
> Butts
>
> "Goran" <goranm@youwish.com> wrote in message
> news:42361db8$0$22220$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>I think you would have to alter some lines in the panel.cfg and dig up
>>some old textures from the 1st Gen 747.
>> I personally don't like messing with the panel.cfg file. However, feel
>> free to start another post explaining that you did a search and it wasn't
>> resolved. Ed Green and Ralph Tofflemeire are very forthcoming and they
>> are the real experts on this plane, since Ralph is the one who created
>> it...on his own no less!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:dqoZd.9626$1S4.1022849@news.xtra.co.nz...
>>>
>>> Thanks. 1st question. The side views look like nice drawings on the VC
>>> version where I prefer the realistic photographic work right down to the
>>> rust. Apparently the earlier version was better and someone was asking
>>> whether side views could be replaced. The forum went dead on that
>>> subject. Have you seen anything on this topic?
>>> Butts
>>>
>>>
>>> "Goran" <goranm@youwish.com> wrote in message
>>> news:42360c8e$0$5595$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>> Always remember F.E.A.H. for the RFP 742
>>>> Fuel
>>>> Electrics
>>>> APU
>>>> Hydraulics
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:QQmZd.9591$1S4.1022002@news.xtra.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> Gee Goran I really appreciate your reply. I have just registered at
>>>>> that addresss you gave me (above) and will study it carefully. I
>>>>> certainly had my moments limping back to base with the gear still down
>>>>> (missed out on the hydraulic board didn't I?) and one other time not
>>>>> being able to turn on the ground... (dunno what I did there). I don't
>>>>> think you can get much faster than 20 mins in the procedure unless you
>>>>> smarten those guys up in the electrical carts down below (Australian
>>>>> labour?) ;-) I did enjoy showing the start off the startup procedure
>>>>> to a friend and just swivelled the excellent VC around to show the
>>>>> rear panel boards, swiching on the battery from that viewpoint and the
>>>>> hydraulic board. Then swivelling to the overhead panel to carry out
>>>>> the next function. At the same time I have all those enviromental
>>>>> sounds from another add on chirping away. Makes you want to store
>>>>> your suitcase somewhere!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again mate
>>>>> Butts
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Goran" <goranm@youwish.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:42356254$0$5595$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>>> Ah Butts, you have just come across one of the best and probably the
>>>>>> most complicated add on aircraft on FS9.
>>>>>> Very steep learning curve but definitely worth the trouble to learn
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> First of all, make sure you utilise the Takeoff Calculator available
>>>>>> for free off the panelshop website.
>>>>>> www.panelshop.com
>>>>>> You need that to set your EPR among a few other things.
>>>>>> There is a very set order in which to do things and the vertical
>>>>>> speed will disconnect if things are not done properly. When this
>>>>>> happens, your pitch will remain constant and not attain your
>>>>>> altitude. It will, as you said, go straight through it.
>>>>>> The entire procedure is quite long and will take up too much space
>>>>>> here for a detailed explanation. I recommend the forum at:
>>>>>> http://panelshop.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=b42640897c83c1701434ca645bfd2d5b&showforum=21
>>>>>> Every single question to do with this product is found there and you
>>>>>> will have no problem in finding what you are looking for.
>>>>>> I will say again that the package you have is extremely complex and
>>>>>> all must be done exactly as it is in the real world. The person that
>>>>>> designed the aircraft has copped a bit of flack from people saying it
>>>>>> is TOO real and complicated. If you don't feel you are ready for
>>>>>> such a package, stick to the default planes but I guarantee you, once
>>>>>> you do get the hang of it, you will have no problem in flying it.
>>>>>> Just for the record, the first time I got this plane, it took me 3
>>>>>> hours to go from cold and dark to airborne. Now it takes me no more
>>>>>> than 20 minutes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:yRcZd.9489$1S4.1004089@news.xtra.co.nz...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Unlike most of you I've left my credit card alone and have just
>>>>>>>> stuck mainly
>>>>>>> to conventional add on's where I can get into a 747, set the
>>>>>>> REQUIRED ALTITUDE etc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mistake sorry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Butts
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 
G

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ok thanks again for that. It's just that in the flying instructions it
refers to a gauge I coundn't find and its on the tape side.. I'll do some
reading Bye f now
Butts
"Goran" <goranm@youwish.com> wrote in message
news:423669e2$0$29451$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> When you go into FS and the select aircraft menu, they are all bunched
> together. I don't think you can purposefully make an aircraft with an
> analog gauge into one with a tape gauge. They are not categorised into
> analog or tape. But, they are easily separated into the tape and analog
> gauges by their liveries. For that, you'll have to go into one of the
> livery aircraft panel folders.
> Eg.
> On my hard drive, the KLM panel.cfg gauge is located in:
> C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9\Aircraft\VMAX
> KLM\panel
> That is just one of the liveries. In this folder, there is a panel.cfg
> file which points to either an analog gauge or tape gauge in the RFP
> Panels folder in the main FS9 directory. In this case, it's a tape gauge.
> This is not a panel.cfg file in itself, just a file that points to the
> panel.cfg file in RFP Panels. I think you may be able to change it to
> analog gauges, I never really tried to be honest but I don't think you
> could have it point to both gauges as it would get confused and not know
> which one to go to.
> Hope this clears it up for you.
>
>
> "donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eFrZd.9723$1S4.1028707@news.xtra.co.nz...
>> Thanks again... I see there are 2 panels available analogue and tape and
>> I have yet to find out what this is all about Is there a trip switch
>> somewhere?
>>
>> Butts
>>
>> "Goran" <goranm@youwish.com> wrote in message
>> news:42361db8$0$22220$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>I think you would have to alter some lines in the panel.cfg and dig up
>>>some old textures from the 1st Gen 747.
>>> I personally don't like messing with the panel.cfg file. However, feel
>>> free to start another post explaining that you did a search and it
>>> wasn't resolved. Ed Green and Ralph Tofflemeire are very forthcoming
>>> and they are the real experts on this plane, since Ralph is the one who
>>> created it...on his own no less!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:dqoZd.9626$1S4.1022849@news.xtra.co.nz...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks. 1st question. The side views look like nice drawings on the
>>>> VC version where I prefer the realistic photographic work right down to
>>>> the rust. Apparently the earlier version was better and someone was
>>>> asking whether side views could be replaced. The forum went dead on
>>>> that subject. Have you seen anything on this topic?
>>>> Butts
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Goran" <goranm@youwish.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:42360c8e$0$5595$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>> Always remember F.E.A.H. for the RFP 742
>>>>> Fuel
>>>>> Electrics
>>>>> APU
>>>>> Hydraulics
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:QQmZd.9591$1S4.1022002@news.xtra.co.nz...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gee Goran I really appreciate your reply. I have just registered at
>>>>>> that addresss you gave me (above) and will study it carefully. I
>>>>>> certainly had my moments limping back to base with the gear still
>>>>>> down (missed out on the hydraulic board didn't I?) and one other time
>>>>>> not being able to turn on the ground... (dunno what I did there). I
>>>>>> don't think you can get much faster than 20 mins in the procedure
>>>>>> unless you smarten those guys up in the electrical carts down below
>>>>>> (Australian labour?) ;-) I did enjoy showing the start off the
>>>>>> startup procedure to a friend and just swivelled the excellent VC
>>>>>> around to show the rear panel boards, swiching on the battery from
>>>>>> that viewpoint and the hydraulic board. Then swivelling to the
>>>>>> overhead panel to carry out the next function. At the same time I
>>>>>> have all those enviromental sounds from another add on chirping away.
>>>>>> Makes you want to store your suitcase somewhere!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks again mate
>>>>>> Butts
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Goran" <goranm@youwish.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:42356254$0$5595$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>>>> Ah Butts, you have just come across one of the best and probably the
>>>>>>> most complicated add on aircraft on FS9.
>>>>>>> Very steep learning curve but definitely worth the trouble to learn
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>> First of all, make sure you utilise the Takeoff Calculator available
>>>>>>> for free off the panelshop website.
>>>>>>> www.panelshop.com
>>>>>>> You need that to set your EPR among a few other things.
>>>>>>> There is a very set order in which to do things and the vertical
>>>>>>> speed will disconnect if things are not done properly. When this
>>>>>>> happens, your pitch will remain constant and not attain your
>>>>>>> altitude. It will, as you said, go straight through it.
>>>>>>> The entire procedure is quite long and will take up too much space
>>>>>>> here for a detailed explanation. I recommend the forum at:
>>>>>>> http://panelshop.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=b42640897c83c1701434ca645bfd2d5b&showforum=21
>>>>>>> Every single question to do with this product is found there and you
>>>>>>> will have no problem in finding what you are looking for.
>>>>>>> I will say again that the package you have is extremely complex and
>>>>>>> all must be done exactly as it is in the real world. The person
>>>>>>> that designed the aircraft has copped a bit of flack from people
>>>>>>> saying it is TOO real and complicated. If you don't feel you are
>>>>>>> ready for such a package, stick to the default planes but I
>>>>>>> guarantee you, once you do get the hang of it, you will have no
>>>>>>> problem in flying it.
>>>>>>> Just for the record, the first time I got this plane, it took me 3
>>>>>>> hours to go from cold and dark to airborne. Now it takes me no more
>>>>>>> than 20 minutes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:yRcZd.9489$1S4.1004089@news.xtra.co.nz...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Unlike most of you I've left my credit card alone and have just
>>>>>>>>> stuck mainly
>>>>>>>> to conventional add on's where I can get into a 747, set the
>>>>>>>> REQUIRED ALTITUDE etc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> mistake sorry
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Butts
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 

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No problem.
Any more questions, let me know or make a post in the rfp forum

"donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:HbvZd.9766$1S4.1033476@news.xtra.co.nz...
> ok thanks again for that. It's just that in the flying instructions it
> refers to a gauge I coundn't find and its on the tape side.. I'll do some
> reading Bye f now
> Butts
> "Goran" <goranm@youwish.com> wrote in message
> news:423669e2$0$29451$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> When you go into FS and the select aircraft menu, they are all bunched
>> together. I don't think you can purposefully make an aircraft with an
>> analog gauge into one with a tape gauge. They are not categorised into
>> analog or tape. But, they are easily separated into the tape and analog
>> gauges by their liveries. For that, you'll have to go into one of the
>> livery aircraft panel folders.
>> Eg.
>> On my hard drive, the KLM panel.cfg gauge is located in:
>> C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9\Aircraft\VMAX
>> KLM\panel
>> That is just one of the liveries. In this folder, there is a panel.cfg
>> file which points to either an analog gauge or tape gauge in the RFP
>> Panels folder in the main FS9 directory. In this case, it's a tape
>> gauge. This is not a panel.cfg file in itself, just a file that points to
>> the panel.cfg file in RFP Panels. I think you may be able to change it
>> to analog gauges, I never really tried to be honest but I don't think you
>> could have it point to both gauges as it would get confused and not know
>> which one to go to.
>> Hope this clears it up for you.
>>
>>
>> "donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:eFrZd.9723$1S4.1028707@news.xtra.co.nz...
>>> Thanks again... I see there are 2 panels available analogue and tape and
>>> I have yet to find out what this is all about Is there a trip switch
>>> somewhere?
>>>
>>> Butts
>>>
>>> "Goran" <goranm@youwish.com> wrote in message
>>> news:42361db8$0$22220$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>I think you would have to alter some lines in the panel.cfg and dig up
>>>>some old textures from the 1st Gen 747.
>>>> I personally don't like messing with the panel.cfg file. However, feel
>>>> free to start another post explaining that you did a search and it
>>>> wasn't resolved. Ed Green and Ralph Tofflemeire are very forthcoming
>>>> and they are the real experts on this plane, since Ralph is the one who
>>>> created it...on his own no less!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:dqoZd.9626$1S4.1022849@news.xtra.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks. 1st question. The side views look like nice drawings on the
>>>>> VC version where I prefer the realistic photographic work right down
>>>>> to the rust. Apparently the earlier version was better and someone
>>>>> was asking whether side views could be replaced. The forum went dead
>>>>> on that subject. Have you seen anything on this topic?
>>>>> Butts
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Goran" <goranm@youwish.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:42360c8e$0$5595$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>>> Always remember F.E.A.H. for the RFP 742
>>>>>> Fuel
>>>>>> Electrics
>>>>>> APU
>>>>>> Hydraulics
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:QQmZd.9591$1S4.1022002@news.xtra.co.nz...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gee Goran I really appreciate your reply. I have just registered at
>>>>>>> that addresss you gave me (above) and will study it carefully. I
>>>>>>> certainly had my moments limping back to base with the gear still
>>>>>>> down (missed out on the hydraulic board didn't I?) and one other
>>>>>>> time not being able to turn on the ground... (dunno what I did
>>>>>>> there). I don't think you can get much faster than 20 mins in the
>>>>>>> procedure unless you smarten those guys up in the electrical carts
>>>>>>> down below (Australian labour?) ;-) I did enjoy showing the start
>>>>>>> off the startup procedure to a friend and just swivelled the
>>>>>>> excellent VC around to show the rear panel boards, swiching on the
>>>>>>> battery from that viewpoint and the hydraulic board. Then swivelling
>>>>>>> to the overhead panel to carry out the next function. At the same
>>>>>>> time I have all those enviromental sounds from another add on
>>>>>>> chirping away. Makes you want to store your suitcase somewhere!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks again mate
>>>>>>> Butts
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Goran" <goranm@youwish.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:42356254$0$5595$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>>>>> Ah Butts, you have just come across one of the best and probably
>>>>>>>> the most complicated add on aircraft on FS9.
>>>>>>>> Very steep learning curve but definitely worth the trouble to learn
>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>> First of all, make sure you utilise the Takeoff Calculator
>>>>>>>> available for free off the panelshop website.
>>>>>>>> www.panelshop.com
>>>>>>>> You need that to set your EPR among a few other things.
>>>>>>>> There is a very set order in which to do things and the vertical
>>>>>>>> speed will disconnect if things are not done properly. When this
>>>>>>>> happens, your pitch will remain constant and not attain your
>>>>>>>> altitude. It will, as you said, go straight through it.
>>>>>>>> The entire procedure is quite long and will take up too much space
>>>>>>>> here for a detailed explanation. I recommend the forum at:
>>>>>>>> http://panelshop.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=b42640897c83c1701434ca645bfd2d5b&showforum=21
>>>>>>>> Every single question to do with this product is found there and
>>>>>>>> you will have no problem in finding what you are looking for.
>>>>>>>> I will say again that the package you have is extremely complex and
>>>>>>>> all must be done exactly as it is in the real world. The person
>>>>>>>> that designed the aircraft has copped a bit of flack from people
>>>>>>>> saying it is TOO real and complicated. If you don't feel you are
>>>>>>>> ready for such a package, stick to the default planes but I
>>>>>>>> guarantee you, once you do get the hang of it, you will have no
>>>>>>>> problem in flying it.
>>>>>>>> Just for the record, the first time I got this plane, it took me 3
>>>>>>>> hours to go from cold and dark to airborne. Now it takes me no
>>>>>>>> more than 20 minutes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "donbutts" <removethisdonneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:yRcZd.9489$1S4.1004089@news.xtra.co.nz...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Unlike most of you I've left my credit card alone and have just
>>>>>>>>>> stuck mainly
>>>>>>>>> to conventional add on's where I can get into a 747, set the
>>>>>>>>> REQUIRED ALTITUDE etc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> mistake sorry
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Butts
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>