9600 GT is severly being bottlenecked.

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Actually I like Intel and ATI.
Nothing is wrong with your card period!!!!
Heres a guy with a better CPU then you by a tad bit. 7774 3dmark06 http://service.futuremark.com/resultComparison.action?compareResultId=5889837&compareResultType=14
He gets a little more from his little bit better CPU but take a look at his motherboard, its hella better then yours. He is on a 16x bus and you are on a 8x.
Your system is fine for the junk your running. You want that thing to shine get a new intel mobo and a intel quad core.
 

Getting one of those will make your 3dMark score go much higher, but won't impact gaming much over an intel dual core.

EDIT: Whoops, logic error there, fixed now.
 
Look, we arent in the cpu section, and we dont care if you get 124 fps vs 93, were concerned whether hes getting 13 or 30 fps. The single most important hardware in a gamers rig is his GPU period
 
Not always. In crysis the CPU is more important. Crysis needs CPU power more than CPU power. My 3700 (granted it was single core) couldn't breach 25FPS average at 800x600 all on low with an x1950 pro. My E6600 gets around 60-70FPS average at 1024x768 on low.
 



We know why because his crap CPU and his crap 8x otherboard is a bottle neck. Do you research before you make him RMA all of his perfertly functioning parts. You could put a 9800x2 or a 3870x2 in there hypothetically speaking and it still wouldnt play games good because of the bottle necks.

Bottom line it dont matter what GPU you have if your other hardware dont keep up. The GPU and CPU do communicate you know.
 



Time for you to go to bed you obviously dont know what your talking about. His system is close to similar systems and he is running stock. To get more he need new parts or at the least overclock the cpu and GPU.
 
OK, youre talking ocing here, obviously with that 3700 at 2.6. At stock looking here, since roadrunner stated a e2160 earlier , I compared that to a e4300, since it doesnt list the e2xx series on the charts. http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=917&model2=882&chart=424 Theyre identical, or close to it in gaming performance, and you wont see a 70% loss, or better fps until you hit a 8200 wolfdale at 2.66. So this is not his problem, even adding in the 8x and his mobo/chips
 
I thought there was supposed to be a SM3 score...

Seriously it looks like to me that his system is fine. (for what he has at least.) Perhaps he should try patching any problem games, or check the drivers. Maybe there is an issue with the new 9 series that didn't exist on the older 6. That or as I said the first time, the settings aren't the same. The 9600GT might be defaulting to DX10, while the 6800 was in DX9.
 




Wheres your logic comming from? You need to change your mugshot also. You shouldn't use your real picture for an avatar.

Heres a chart for you to look at. As you can see the e8200 isnt as good as the e2180 OC to 3.0 and the e8400 is only 8% better at the same speed. AMD Phenom is only 18% better with 2 extra cores. Look how crappy that 4000 x2 is -43%





Now show me any proof that a system with the same GPU 9600gt and a CPU with only a 1633 3dmark06 score gets over 8000 3dmark06 score. Until you can do that quit giving the OP bad misleading advice.
 
CPU, always was and always will be? How come his CPU score then is higher then the guy you posted, even though he is supposed to have a better CPU? (4200+ instead of a 4000+) I could see an arguement that its his motherboard, which I'd probably even believe. While there isn't really a difference in games, running a synthetic benchmark on a 8x PCIe board instead of 16x might account for the missing ~500 SM2 points.

Instead of trying to insult people trying to help, why don't you take a chill pill. It's not his CPU, he gets normal figures for what his CPU is. I'd like to know what settings he's using. There is no way they are the same settings his 6800 used. Again, if he forced the games to run in DX9 mode, he'd get much better results.
 
3DMark Score 7201 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 3013
CPU Score 1633
SM 3.0 Score 2555

Unless the final score works in another way...


Direct X 10 rendering and Direct X 9 rendering does very little difference in crysis.

This is making me rethink everything, there is very little performance increase from Medium Shaders to Very High.

Its strange .

 




It dont matter what his settings are with his current CPU/MOBO he is getting the performance he should be. Is it up to par ? NO!! You cant squeeze blood from a turnip, or FPS from a crappy CPU/MOBO. A $100 upgrade is all he needs and would be a night and day difference.

SPend a $100 and you should get 10000 or a tad more in 3dmark06.
 
I still think its the mobo. I don't think the card has any problems.

Also rockstone1 it only takes about an hour to reinstall vista. Once you have done a fresh install only install the drivers. That way it is easier to find out if the problem is software or hardware related. Because its a fresh install if the problem persist it is more likely a hardware issue.

Also you have a little overclock on your cpu. Reset the bios to default settings so everything is running at stock. I have seen overclocks before with crap mobo's that actually cause a negative impact on performance.
 
Something is wrong with your CPU score. My Brisbane X2 4000+ (OC'd to 2.45 ghz) gets over 1900 for the CPU score. My overall score is about 6200 with an 8600GT.
 
You guys make it sound like the 9600GT is some Uba card. Well its not. The 8800GT is better. Just because its a 9xxx series dont mean its some uber card.

@Basketcase: Thats a good name for you. Saying his CPU score is wrong because your 450MHz more is 267 points higher? That is to be expected. Reset yours to default then see what you get.

@OP: Your good for what you got no worrys.
 
The OP is OCing to 2.5 ghz. Or atleast he was in his first post.

From the first post:
My specs:

4000x2+ @ 2.5 ghz


I think he should be getting a similar CPU score to me.

The score he is getting is low for that card and that CPU. He is getting a lower score than me. The 9600GT is a very close performer to the 8800GT. Not as good in everything, but overall it is much closer to an 8800GT than a 8600GT in performance. In my estimation, I would expect a score arund 9k or higher. The 8x PCI lane could affect it some, but I can see that his CPU score is lower than it should be. Even a few points in the CPU score can drastically affect the final total 3DMark score.

Roadrunner, you need to cool it a bit...
 
^ What motherboard and ram do you have? His mobo is old and he is running. "633" I asume 667 ram.

What OS are you running? OP has Vista 64 which could have a negative impact on him as well with his choice of components.

Xp will score better then Vista. MAybe thats the case.

Maybe you have faster ram and thats the case.

You cant say oh theres a problem i got 267 more points then you if your running a different OS and faster memory.

I'm plenty cool, I just think its crazy all the misleading info this guy is getting. He probably didnt get any sleep last night.

But seriosly 4000 x2 isn't capable of playing New games like any of the Intel core 2 duos.

Basketcase what is your total 3Dmark06 score?
 
I don't have the exact numbers on hand, but my 3DMark06 score is over 6200 points.

I am running Windows XP SP2
2 Gig DDR2 800 Ram
ECS 690GM (something or other...)

You are correct about the ram and os playing a part, but I don't feel like it would have been that much. 200+ points on the CPU score is a lot. That signifies a big big difference. To me atleast. I guess, no matter the ram speed and O/S, I would still expect a better score than what he is getting. The reason I pointed out the CPU score was to help allude to a possible problem. Assuming there is nothing wrong with the CPU itself, the mobo would be likely culprit. Whether or not there is a physical problem, or it is just a crappy mobo, I don't know.

And all this goes under the assumption that he isn't plagued by spyware/viruses or some broken drivers or registry problems.
 
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