A horrible CPU Choice.

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Vid Dovgan

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Hello guys, so, I recently built my first ever gaming PC, yay, woohooo, well... not so much. Because this was my first ever build, I was obviously a massive noob. I picked an AMD FX 8370 to pair up with my GTX 760. The problem here is, that CPU intensive games run really bad, because of AMD's low single core performance, I really wish I would've picked the i5-4790k (Or something like that), because, most of the games that I play, are CPU intensive games. If I were to replace the CPU, I obviously need to replace the motherboard too, which would be about 350 euros (for both components combined). I'm only 14, so I obviously don't have enough money right now (I barely saved up for this PC). What should I do? I'm truly devastated, this was a horrific first PC build experience.
 
There is more going on than the CPU, because I have an FX8350 at stock settings (4.0 GHz, 4.2 in turbo) together w/ a HD7970 GHz Ed 3GB GPU, and 16 GB's of 2133 MHz DDR3 RAM. I have a MSI 990FXA-GD80 mobo and I can run anything, and I mean anything, at the highest settings. Scored just under 9,000 on my 3D Mark run of Firestrike Extreme, which was in the top 18%. So, I am very doubtful that you are just being bottle-necked at CPU.
 
I'm running a FX8350 @4.4ghz with my tired and true GTX550Ti that's pushing 4.5 years old now and can play any game w/o issue. Obviously can't go "Ultra" or run top ambient occlusion settings (usually need AO off, shadows low or medium, texture and terrain as high as possible, and minor compromises elsewhere that rarely make enough of an impact to quantify the FPS drop) but even with the modest settings in known GPU killing games like Metro, it's a super champ and I never have noticeable slow downs. While this card isn't the greatest with DX11, it's actually doing good enough I haven't bothered updating and have been waiting for it to either croak, or the higher-end 2014 cards to come down a little more to truly appreciate the difference. To put this further into perspective, I play 1920x1080 too and if you actually look at benchmarks, I should theoretically not even be able to play these games. And all this with a FX8350 LOL.

I'll agree with others, get a better board, and consider an overclock (but please learn more about that before attempting as it's VERY easy to destroy your stuff). Like Blackcat, I too have a MSI 990FXA-GD80 and also 16gb Rip Jaw. While not the greatest board for overclocking as they nerfed the voltage so 4.5ghz is about the best you can get w/o tricks, I can run everything w/o issues up to what the 5 year old GTX550Ti (1gb of VRAM no less) can handle which is actually a lot if you adjust the settings correctly.

Another thing that might be an issue is your video card's green energy settings or even running an under-powered power supply for it can wreak havoc if it's not rated at the correct amperage to power your CPU and GPU.
 


It's an XFX 550W Bronze
. How do I turn off the power saving thing on the GPU?
 


This mobo you say? I'm sorry, but the website is in my language. http://www.mlacom.si/msi-990fxa-gd65

 


How well will this one perform? http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3894#ov

 
This board is OK, but can not overclock past 4.5Ghz, so keep that in mind. There is supposedly a trick that allows further, but I won't post as I never tried it and newer boards have different bios meaning it may have been patched in newer bios. If you can get cheaply, or can tolerate a low overclock, it's a pretty decent board and was the better MSI FX board for awhile.

Download "EVGA Precision X". Get it running, then select "voltage". A pop up box with a few settings appear. Click on "K-Boost". Screen might flash briefly, that's normal. Close the voltage tab (do NOT mess with voltages as you can easily cook your GPU if you don't know what you are doing). I prefer to force the fans to manual and set at it's highest setting when gaming as it'll keep the card as cool as possible. Leaving it on "auto" will allow it to typically run hotter, and it'll get hotter as the fan speed will typically fluctuate to try and keep up with different demands. Anyways, that's just me and I'll tolerate the fan sound if it means keeping the video card as cool as possible.


Your video card has several different "green" states it'll run in, as do all other newer cards. For desktop browsing or looking at this site, it'll be at lowest clock speeds, lowest voltage, etc. as a low-end tablet can run this stuff. For moderate demands, it'll step up to another "state" of presets. When gaming, it should step up to fastest speed. Problem is, the card might be fluctuating between states, etc. K-Boost "locks" in the fastest state and prevents the lower states from engaging. You'll typically see a jump with in-game performance as the card will actually be forced to do it's rated numbers.

When you open EVGA Precision X, it'll display the current clock rate. As long as you aren't running a windowed 3D game on the side, it'll be a low number. Turning K-Boost "on", that number will jump to whatever the card's rated at. It's an easy way tell. K-Boost is "safe" and does NOT overclock the card. It just locks top speed in. Be warned, overclocking a GPU can actually damage it or at the very least cause crashes and unstable behavior in-game, so don't mess with anything else.

K-Boost will stay on after you close the EVGA X program, so turn K-Boost on,, close voltage tab and EVGA Precision X, start your game, enjoy the better responsiveness, when done with game and closed, open EVGA again and turn K-Boost "off". You can leave it on if you want, but it'll just pull more power from the power supply and will run a little warmer. IF you leave K-Boost on, if you shut the PC down and restart, it'll still be on. until you manually turn it off.
 
I'm really stressed out at the moment. I don't know If I'll ever get this thing to work. I still don't know what motherboard to choose, especially because I don't have a lot of money. It's getting to a point where I'm even thinking o replacing the CPU with an AMD FX 6300, but I don't know if my current motherboard would even be good enough for that. I don't know what do to, If I replace the motherboard, will I have to re-install windows? There is just so much stuff wrong at this point, I really regret building this thing right now. I just want it to work. As soon as I think that I found a good motherboard, there's always some problems with it. What would you guys do if you were me? I have to pick a motherboard from this site http://www.mlacom.si/ It's in Slovenian language though... If anyone could pick out a motherboard that is not too expensive and will run the 8370 as it should from here I'll be very happy.
 


What does the "Some AMD 970 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Vishera CPUs". Mean? It says this when I put the 2.0 and the 8370 together.

 


Both the M5a97 and the gigabyte ud3p boards mentioned should work out of the box with all vishera CPUs :)
 


If my Windows isn't an "Official" copy, do I just re-install it after I slap the mobo in?

 


xD, Ok, I'm just glad, that Imma be able to finally fix this problem
 


Is this a hard process? Getting a motherboard change? What do I have to do? I know I have to reinstall windows and BIOS ad stuff like that, but whats the best way to prepair for a motherboard change?

 
Are you guys seriously recommending full ATX motherboard for his ASrock M8? It's a mini-ITX barebones system. I'm a fan of these, but from the reviews I've seen, you need to flip one of the bottom fans.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856158036

I would contact ASrock directly to see what they recommend to remedy your cooling problems, OP.

EDIT: Now I see you might have just meant mate, when you said M8 since you currently have a full atx mobo.
 



M8 as in mate lol.

He was previously using the Extreme 4, a full ATX board.
 
Guys, I'll try to put a good fan over the VRM and see if it'll still be overheating, because I really don't want to go through the process of changing motherboards. Do you guys think it'll work? I got a few replies of people who own the same CPU on another forum. They said they did this and it worked. 4


 
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