ADVICE PLEASE?

[schaubert6969]

allright well when my new graphics card gets here im going to have to install it obviously.
what i need to know is what is better. to connect it to my AGP slot or
PCI. right now i have an integrated SiS chip which is shit so thats why im getting a new ATI shapphire radeon 9250. so what do you guys think i should do AGP or PCI

 

[raytracer06]

AGP is dedicated to graphics cards, so if you have an AGP port, use it. PCI isn't really used anymore for graphics cards.

anyway, if you bought an agp card, it won't fit into a PCI slot

 

[prozac26]

Well, if you have an AGP slot, use it. There are better choices than a 9250 for AGP.

 

[schaubert6969]

ya well the 9250 only cost me 30£s and also it says in the inof that it works in AGP 8x/4x or ICP bus but if you say AGP is the way to go then that i will do.

 

[mkaibear]

AGP and PCI are not pin-compatible. There will be versions of the same card which work in AGP and versions which work in PCI. If you've got an AGP card, put it in the AGP slot. If you've got a PCI card, put it in the PCI slot.

Finally, pray you've got an AGP card.

 

[schaubert6969]

well sir i did get an agp card and i do have an agp slot so it dont matter but look at this

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SAPPHIRE-RADEON-9250-AGP-128MB-GRAPHICS-CARD-DVI-TV-OUT_W0QQitemZ230030771429QQihZ013QQcategoryZ27387QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

copy paste that then scroll down to the features and there it says supports both AGP or PCI bus i could be wrong but just going on what it says. no matter i,ll put it in the Agp first anyways

 

[mkaibear]

That is promotional material directly lifted from Sapphire's site.

There will be multiple versions of this card. Some are PCI and some are AGP.

If you've got an AGP one that's fine.

 

[schaubert6969]

K sweet i,l ltake your word for it mayte
im not the best at this shit anyways
and just so i know agp slot is brown correct?

 

[mkaibear]

Usually brown - but can theoretically be any colour.

Generally safe to assume brown, though.

 

[schaubert6969]

well im pretty sure it is only slots on the board are the 3 pcis
2 long black ones forget the name of them and the one brown slot

 

[jitpublisher]

Don't worry about putting in the wrong slot. An AGP card will only fit into an AGP slot, and a PCI card will only fit into a PCI slot, unless you really force it, you would have to physically damage the card to make it go into the wrong slot.

 

[schaubert6969]

hahaha allright mayte thanks alot now all i need to do is wait and then
BOOM HEADSHOT!! lol >.> sorri im itching to play counterstrike again.
and jsut for a second opinion
how do i turn off my integrated chip ? so that the new card im getting takes over the display?

 

[mkaibear]

You'll need to go into the BIOS and tell it to use external graphics rather than integrated.

 

[schaubert6969]

oh allright see i was told to first plug in the new card
start up go into the bios turn off the onboard video
then go into windows everything would look funnt till i install the drivers fro mthe disk that comes with the card. after its all installed i can just switch back the display settings to the way i wanted them.

 

[mkaibear]

That sounds about right, yes.

 

[raytracer06]

integrated graphics cards can normally be disabled in the computer's bios.

to enter the bios, you have to press a key during startup. most computers show "Press ?? key to enter setup" when you turn them on.

once you're in the bios, look for "onboard graphics" or something like that, and set it to "disabled"

 

[schaubert6969]

soo befor anything i plus in the card start up go into the bios disable this onboard or integrated graphics w/e it may be then go into windows install the drivers . then do i restart the pc? and put my display settings the way i want or just put them the way i want?

 

[mkaibear]

No.

Plug in the card.
Turn on the computer.
Go to the BIOS.
Turn on the card.
Reboot the computer.
Check that video is coming through the card, not the integrated graphics.
Wait for Windows to boot.
Once it has done, install the drivers that came with the card.
Reboot Windows.
Set the computer to the right resolution etc.
Go to www.ati.com and download the latest drivers.
Install these drivers.
Reboot Windows.

 

[schaubert6969]

kk when i plug in the card at the start do i connect the moniter to it right away or turn it on first?
also how do i turn the card on by disabling the onboard/integrated one?
so im not to smart at this shit first time i,v had to deal with it.

 

[mkaibear]

OK;

Plug in the card.
Make sure monitor is plugged into integrated graphics.
Turn on the computer.
Go to the BIOS.
Turn on the card and turn off the integrated graphics.
Reboot the computer.
Plug the monitor into the card.
Check that video is coming through the card, not the integrated graphics.
Wait for Windows to boot.
Once it has done, install the drivers that came with the card.
Reboot Windows.
Set the computer to the right resolution etc.
Go to www.ati.com and download the latest drivers.
Install these drivers.
Reboot Windows.

 

[mesarectifier]

I wouldn't pay £30 for a 9250; I payed £10 for a 9200 and that was 2 years ago.

 

[schaubert6969]

allright thanks alot man been tons of help
and as for mister i payed 10£ for a 9200 i dont really give a fuck i think its a sweet card the features kick ass and liek i said all i need it for really is the directx9 anything is better then what i got now so thats all that matters.

 

[mkaibear]

>DirectX 9

Sadly, whilst the 9250 supports DX9 it's not *really* fast enough to use any of DX9's features.

Still, if it's better than what you've got now, you can't really complain!

 

[schaubert6969]

all i really want to know is will i be able to play counterstrike source and DoD with easyness that card supports 8.1 and 9 directx
these r the features it has


128MB of 400MHz DDR memory accelerates the latest cutting edge 3D applications
Available in both a 128-bit and 64-bit memory data path interface
ATI RADEON™ 9250 VPU operating at 240 MHz
Supports the AGP 8X and AGP 4x standard or PCI Bus, providing a high-speed link between the graphics card and the rest of the PC
Four pixel shader pipeline
Full support for Microsoft® DirectX® 8.1 and DX9 compliance and the latest OpenGL® functionality
SMARTSHADER™ technology
VIDEO IMMERSION™ and FULLSTREAM™ technologies which provide for amazing video playback quality.
Integrated DV support for Flat Panel displays
Powered by CATALYST™ - The industry's most stable unified graphics software

 

[mkaibear]

Almost certainly not, sadly.

You may be able to play at a sensible speed in 640x480 - possibly if you're *really* lucky in 800x600. Nothing higher than that, not with a 9250.