[SOLVED] After a whole heap of troubleshooting, I still have some FPS dips and stutters in some games

[Leyequois]

So, I practically have a new system, the MoBo, CPU, Cooler and RAM are less than a month old, the GPU is around 6 months old

The setup is:

Ryzen 9 5900x
ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280
RTX 3080 OC version
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3200 (PC4-25600)
Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming Motherboard
Windows 11

I thought that because I was using a small liquid cooler, that would have my CPU on constant 80s and some times reach 90s, I was having the last FPS drops and stutter(After all what I did most things got solved) but even after using this cooler, which keeps it always under 75(C) I get the issues

AC Odyssey; VSYNC on 60-75 FPS, oscillates in that rates with no stutter, the benchmark shows 45 fps as average
RDR2; Vsync On, 75 FPS with noticeable drop with a small stutter(Sharpest drop was 45fps), no specific location, I can be riding the horse in the middle of nowhere or be in St Denis and still get this
Resident Evil 3 Remake; almost solid 75fps, drops to 60+/- very rarely, but it happens, and it also stutters when that happens
The outer worlds; Vsync enabled, 75 fps with sharp drops to 45-50 here and there, more noticeable than other games
No Mans sky, mostly solid 60 with some drops to 50ish with stutters very rarely
Grounded, Ultra, 75 with drops, especially if I turn around really fast

The funny bits that made me think, if only for a sec, that maybe it was unoptimized games

ESO; no drops, but that runs in a potato with no issues(FPS is 120-135 without Vsync)
Skyrim AE, 30gb+ of mods, many with 4k textures, ENB, and all the regular Content Creator mods that came iwth the last update, 55-60 FPS, no stutter
Fallout 4, 50+gb of mods, same type of graphics improvements as skyrim, enb, same fps as skyrim, no drops even in known drop areas like Concord


Now, I ran cinebench and these are the results which IMO are the expected for the CPU:
CORES=12
THREADS=24
MHZ=3700.000000
MHZ_ESTIMATE=inf
PROCESSOR=AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core Processor
CBTYPE=64 Bit
OSVERSION=Windows 10, 64 Bit, Core (build 22000)
CBCPU1=1532.815848
CBCPUX=19057.001074
CBCPU1PEAK=1538.417883
CBCPUXPEAK=19624.798719
CBCPU1ARRAY={1538.418,1527.214}
CBCPUXARRAY={19591.598,19639.590,19635.703,19632.304,19581.448,19141.792,19485.305,19012.945,18843.227,18819.993,17615.003,18850.835,18792.812,18438.321,18774.142}
C4DINFO=
C4DVERSION=23.200
C4DBUILDID=RBBenchmark330542

I ran furmark and the result was this:
SCORE:14659 points (244 FPS, 60000 ms)
Max GPU Temp: 68°C
FPS: min:229, max:248, avg:244 - OPTIONS: DynBkg

https://imgur.com/a/Ycby1eA

View: https://imgur.com/a/Ycby1eA


And ran Uningine's Heaven benchmark:
Score 4819 with the setting to extreme in 1080

https://imgur.com/a/KxzLkVr

View: https://imgur.com/a/KxzLkVr


All of these while having 3 screens, one with a video running, one with Virtualbox and one with a game behind the benchmark tools(Wanted to stress even more than I would do on day to day use)

The TS I did before getting the new liquid cooler:
Ran Memtestx64 with no issues(New RAM)
Ran chkdsk and Memory Diagnostics
Clean formated SSD and clean installed windows 11
Deleted the windows installation for the GPU drivers and quick installed with Geforce
Ran windows in safe mode and clean installed gpu drivers
Ran "reinstall" from Geforce and selected "perform clean installation"

This is driving me crazy, I can play the games, it is not like I was trying to play in ultra settings in a y510 laptop from 10 years ago, but I steel see the stutter when the FPS drops here and there which I know shouldn't happen, and am afraid that there might be a problem I did not think about

Now, most of my games(with the exception of ESO which is in its own ssd) are in an HDD that is a few years old, IDK if this might be what is causing it, especially when crystaldisk is not showing it is dying

https://imgur.com/ftoIUCf

View: https://imgur.com/ftoIUCf


Any ideas on what might be going on?

 

[Koekieezz]

So, I practically have a new system, the MoBo, CPU, Cooler and RAM are less than a month old, the GPU is around 6 months old

The setup is:

Ryzen 9 5900x
ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280
RTX 3080 OC version
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3200 (PC4-25600)
Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming Motherboard
Windows 11

I thought that because I was using a small liquid cooler, that would have my CPU on constant 80s and some times reach 90s, I was having the last FPS drops and stutter(After all what I did most things got solved) but even after using this cooler, which keeps it always under 75(C) I get the issues

AC Odyssey; VSYNC on 60-75 FPS, oscillates in that rates with no stutter, the benchmark shows 45 fps as average
RDR2; Vsync On, 75 FPS with noticeable drop with a small stutter(Sharpest drop was 45fps), no specific location, I can be riding the horse in the middle of nowhere or be in St Denis and still get this
Resident Evil 3 Remake; almost solid 75fps, drops to 60+/- very rarely, but it happens, and it also stutters when that happens
The outer worlds; Vsync enabled, 75 fps with sharp drops to 45-50 here and there, more noticeable than other games
No Mans sky, mostly solid 60 with some drops to 50ish with stutters very rarely
Grounded, Ultra, 75 with drops, especially if I turn around really fast

The funny bits that made me think, if only for a sec, that maybe it was unoptimized games

ESO; no drops, but that runs in a potato with no issues(FPS is 120-135 without Vsync)
Skyrim AE, 30gb+ of mods, many with 4k textures, ENB, and all the regular Content Creator mods that came iwth the last update, 55-60 FPS, no stutter
Fallout 4, 50+gb of mods, same type of graphics improvements as skyrim, enb, same fps as skyrim, no drops even in known drop areas like Concord


Now, I ran cinebench and these are the results which IMO are the expected for the CPU:
CORES=12
THREADS=24
MHZ=3700.000000
MHZ_ESTIMATE=inf
PROCESSOR=AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core Processor
CBTYPE=64 Bit
OSVERSION=Windows 10, 64 Bit, Core (build 22000)
CBCPU1=1532.815848
CBCPUX=19057.001074
CBCPU1PEAK=1538.417883
CBCPUXPEAK=19624.798719
CBCPU1ARRAY={1538.418,1527.214}
CBCPUXARRAY={19591.598,19639.590,19635.703,19632.304,19581.448,19141.792,19485.305,19012.945,18843.227,18819.993,17615.003,18850.835,18792.812,18438.321,18774.142}
C4DINFO=
C4DVERSION=23.200
C4DBUILDID=RBBenchmark330542

I ran furmark and the result was this:
SCORE:14659 points (244 FPS, 60000 ms)
Max GPU Temp: 68°C
FPS: min:229, max:248, avg:244 - OPTIONS: DynBkg

https://imgur.com/a/Ycby1eA

View: https://imgur.com/a/Ycby1eA


And ran Uningine's Heaven benchmark:
Score 4819 with the setting to extreme in 1080

https://imgur.com/a/KxzLkVr

View: https://imgur.com/a/KxzLkVr


All of these while having 3 screens, one with a video running, one with Virtualbox and one with a game behind the benchmark tools(Wanted to stress even more than I would do on day to day use)

The TS I did before getting the new liquid cooler:
Ran Memtestx64 with no issues(New RAM)
Ran chkdsk and Memory Diagnostics
Clean formated SSD and clean installed windows 11
Deleted the windows installation for the GPU drivers and quick installed with Geforce
Ran windows in safe mode and clean installed gpu drivers
Ran "reinstall" from Geforce and selected "perform clean installation"

This is driving me crazy, I can play the games, it is not like I was trying to play in ultra settings in a y510 laptop from 10 years ago, but I steel see the stutter when the FPS drops here and there which I know shouldn't happen, and am afraid that there might be a problem I did not think about

Now, most of my games(with the exception of ESO which is in its own ssd) are in an HDD that is a few years old, IDK if this might be what is causing it, especially when crystaldisk is not showing it is dying

https://imgur.com/ftoIUCf

View: https://imgur.com/ftoIUCf


Any ideas on what might be going on?

So, I practically have a new system, the MoBo, CPU, Cooler and RAM are less than a month old, the GPU is around 6 months old

The setup is:

Ryzen 9 5900x
ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280
RTX 3080 OC version
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3200 (PC4-25600)
Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming Motherboard
Windows 11

I thought that because I was using a small liquid cooler, that would have my CPU on constant 80s and some times reach 90s, I was having the last FPS drops and stutter(After all what I did most things got solved) but even after using this cooler, which keeps it always under 75(C) I get the issues

AC Odyssey; VSYNC on 60-75 FPS, oscillates in that rates with no stutter, the benchmark shows 45 fps as average
RDR2; Vsync On, 75 FPS with noticeable drop with a small stutter(Sharpest drop was 45fps), no specific location, I can be riding the horse in the middle of nowhere or be in St Denis and still get this
Resident Evil 3 Remake; almost solid 75fps, drops to 60+/- very rarely, but it happens, and it also stutters when that happens
The outer worlds; Vsync enabled, 75 fps with sharp drops to 45-50 here and there, more noticeable than other games
No Mans sky, mostly solid 60 with some drops to 50ish with stutters very rarely
Grounded, Ultra, 75 with drops, especially if I turn around really fast

The funny bits that made me think, if only for a sec, that maybe it was unoptimized games

ESO; no drops, but that runs in a potato with no issues(FPS is 120-135 without Vsync)
Skyrim AE, 30gb+ of mods, many with 4k textures, ENB, and all the regular Content Creator mods that came iwth the last update, 55-60 FPS, no stutter
Fallout 4, 50+gb of mods, same type of graphics improvements as skyrim, enb, same fps as skyrim, no drops even in known drop areas like Concord


Now, I ran cinebench and these are the results which IMO are the expected for the CPU:
CORES=12
THREADS=24
MHZ=3700.000000
MHZ_ESTIMATE=inf
PROCESSOR=AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core Processor
CBTYPE=64 Bit
OSVERSION=Windows 10, 64 Bit, Core (build 22000)
CBCPU1=1532.815848
CBCPUX=19057.001074
CBCPU1PEAK=1538.417883
CBCPUXPEAK=19624.798719
CBCPU1ARRAY={1538.418,1527.214}
CBCPUXARRAY={19591.598,19639.590,19635.703,19632.304,19581.448,19141.792,19485.305,19012.945,18843.227,18819.993,17615.003,18850.835,18792.812,18438.321,18774.142}
C4DINFO=
C4DVERSION=23.200
C4DBUILDID=RBBenchmark330542

I ran furmark and the result was this:
SCORE:14659 points (244 FPS, 60000 ms)
Max GPU Temp: 68°C
FPS: min:229, max:248, avg:244 - OPTIONS: DynBkg

https://imgur.com/a/Ycby1eA

View: https://imgur.com/a/Ycby1eA


And ran Uningine's Heaven benchmark:
Score 4819 with the setting to extreme in 1080

https://imgur.com/a/KxzLkVr

View: https://imgur.com/a/KxzLkVr


All of these while having 3 screens, one with a video running, one with Virtualbox and one with a game behind the benchmark tools(Wanted to stress even more than I would do on day to day use)

The TS I did before getting the new liquid cooler:
Ran Memtestx64 with no issues(New RAM)
Ran chkdsk and Memory Diagnostics
Clean formated SSD and clean installed windows 11
Deleted the windows installation for the GPU drivers and quick installed with Geforce
Ran windows in safe mode and clean installed gpu drivers
Ran "reinstall" from Geforce and selected "perform clean installation"

This is driving me crazy, I can play the games, it is not like I was trying to play in ultra settings in a y510 laptop from 10 years ago, but I steel see the stutter when the FPS drops here and there which I know shouldn't happen, and am afraid that there might be a problem I did not think about

Now, most of my games(with the exception of ESO which is in its own ssd) are in an HDD that is a few years old, IDK if this might be what is causing it, especially when crystaldisk is not showing it is dying

https://imgur.com/ftoIUCf

View: https://imgur.com/ftoIUCf


Any ideas on what might be going on?

Try this step by step (read till end):

• Disconnect from internet
• Uninstall gpu driver DDU (clean and do not restart).
• Uninstall all the processors (should be 24 on yours, also when it asks for restart, click on no) on device manager and the chipset in control panel like this:
  
  
  
  
  
• Restart the pc to bios, and update to the latest bios. Then go to bios again after update and load default or optimized settings, disable HPET or High Precision Event Timer, then save and exit.
  
  
• boot up to windows and install the latest Chipset driver, reboot and connect to internet.
  
  
• Install the latest nvidia driver.
  
  *do this all offline until reboot after installing chipset driver, also you may reboot to bios after all of this to set the XMP (and previous settings you did). Download needed files (highlighted word) before doing step 1, do the step by orders.
  
  
• Run cmd as admin, then do chkdsk /x /f /r, after that do sfc /scannow
  
  
• And check windows update (and optional updates) if there is any and install them (except chipset in optional update). Enable hardware accelerated graphics scheduling (available in the latest windows update) in graphics settings and reboot, it should be like this:
  
  
  
  
  
  
• Make sure the psu connected to the gpu is 1 pcie cable per 1 slot (use main cable, not the branches/split) like this:
  
  

 

[Leyequois]

Ok, done everything(And I did have the GPU connected with the extension, so I did as you advised and connected it with 2 cables)

Will test as soon as I am done with my cases(Did all of this on my break lol)

Thanks, will update as soon as I test it!

PS. Chkdsk did find 300k errors to repair, but sfc didn't find anything

 

[DimkaTsv]

disable HPET or High Precision Event Timer, then save and exit.

For Ryzen, especially Zen 3, that line in BIOS doesn't actually do anything. Because Ryzen have hardware I-TSC with 10.00 mHz frequency.
If you want to disable HPET you want to do it from Windows, because Windows HPET is 14.33 mHz and actually have some performance effect.

And no, BIOS setting have no effect on Windows HPET

 

[DimkaTsv]

PS. Chkdsk did find 300k errors to repair, but sfc didn't find anything

chkdsk scans whole drive as file system
sfc /scannow scans only system protected files.

 

[Leyequois]

Try this step by step (read till end):

• Disconnect from internet
• Uninstall gpu driver DDU (clean and do not restart).
• Uninstall all the processors (should be 24 on yours, also when it asks for restart, click on no) on device manager and the chipset in control panel like this:
  
  
  
  
  
• Restart the pc to bios, and update to the latest bios. Then go to bios again after update and load default or optimized settings, disable HPET or High Precision Event Timer, then save and exit.
  
  
• boot up to windows and install the latest Chipset driver, reboot and connect to internet.
  
  
• Install the latest nvidia driver.
  
  *do this all offline until reboot after installing chipset driver, also you may reboot to bios after all of this to set the XMP (and previous settings you did). Download needed files (highlighted word) before doing step 1, do the step by orders.
  
  
• Run cmd as admin, then do chkdsk /x /f /r, after that do sfc /scannow
  
  
• And check windows update (and optional updates) if there is any and install them (except chipset in optional update). Enable hardware accelerated graphics scheduling (available in the latest windows update) in graphics settings and reboot, it should be like this:
  
  
  
  
  
  
• Make sure the psu connected to the gpu is 1 pcie cable per 1 slot (use main cable, not the branches/split) like this:
  
  

IDK, it is very weird

RDR2 I still have all of the stutter, it seems even more, still playable but a bit more noticeable
The outer worlds is the same, even more stutter, a bit less playable than RDR2
AC odyssey no longer stutters, though the FPS goes up and down from 60 to 75

And here comes the funny thing
Metro Exodus, in the highest setting, with RTX in ultra, gives me solid 75, with only 1 stutter in a scripted "scare jump" and nothing else, no matter how much action, just 1 stutter in about an hour of play
Rise of the tomb raider, all ultra, no stutters and 75 solid
Resident Evil 3, solid FPS no stutter, not even minimal

It baffles me, maybe those games are not optimized for my specific setup(An nvidia card with a Ryzen 9 and windows 11?

 

[Koekieezz]

IDK, it is very weird

RDR2 I still have all of the stutter, it seems even more, still playable but a bit more noticeable
The outer worlds is the same, even more stutter, a bit less playable than RDR2
AC odyssey no longer stutters, though the FPS goes up and down from 60 to 75

And here comes the funny thing
Metro Exodus, in the highest setting, with RTX in ultra, gives me solid 75, with only 1 stutter in a scripted "scare jump" and nothing else, no matter how much action, just 1 stutter in about an hour of play
Rise of the tomb raider, all ultra, no stutters and 75 solid
Resident Evil 3, solid FPS no stutter, not even minimal

It baffles me, maybe those games are not optimized for my specific setup(An nvidia card with a Ryzen 9 and windows 11?

tried to change between vulkan and dx12 in rdr2?

 

[Leyequois]

tried to change between vulkan and dx12 in rdr2?

Yup, tried with vulcan and got the same result as far as I could tell

What I did notice before that I forgot to test(Testing right now) is when I had a lot of troubles in RDR2, I selected restore the graph settings and aftert that, I could go back to ultra with very little stutter

 

[Leyequois]

Yes, I re tested and even though I did do the reset of the settings and then put it back to ultra it did still had stuttering and loss, down to 66