AMD CPU speculation... and expert conjecture

[montosaurous]

The best possible strategy for AMD to popularise multi-core computing is to start adding code to Firefox and Chrome. As long as web browsers remain mostly single threaded, everyday-multi-core computing will be meh. Making the current mozilla engine multiprocessing is almost impossible, except for a selected few cases. Adding GPU acceleration is comparitively easier.
Samsung are smart that they started contributing code to the mozilla experimental multithreaded engine Servo. I wont be much surprised if Google also have something similar going deep in their dungeons.

And to all the people who say that "multithreaded coding is easy" , you dont have a clue how actual, production ready coding is done.

I would bet google is high on this as well. Considering they use Linux based kernel for Android, it should be pretty easy for them to implement such things into Chrome. Firefox is also pretty popular on Linux, so I would bet that will also be forthcoming.

Linux kernel is so much "smarter" than windows kernel. MS really needs to get their act together. Win8 is a subpar product, and they're trying to ram it down the consumer's throat. I would bet we see a Vista like short product cycle on win8 if I was a gambling man...unless they're that committed, in terms of resources, to this product. In which case, I would expect the minority operating systems of the world will start competing more and taking market share from MS. That would likely open their eyes a bit to the travesty that is windows 8. Sadly, it has some decent features incorporated, it's just geared more toward tablets and other things, and less toward a typical desktop OS.

The UI of Windows 8 doesn't bother me, but it's still really buggy and unstable. It also has issues running some older games that I still play occasionally. Until Microsoft can fix this Windows 7 will be the only option for me.

 

[esrever]

The best possible strategy for AMD to popularise multi-core computing is to start adding code to Firefox and Chrome. As long as web browsers remain mostly single threaded, everyday-multi-core computing will be meh. Making the current mozilla engine multiprocessing is almost impossible, except for a selected few cases. Adding GPU acceleration is comparitively easier.
Samsung are smart that they started contributing code to the mozilla experimental multithreaded engine Servo. I wont be much surprised if Google also have something similar going deep in their dungeons.

And to all the people who say that "multithreaded coding is easy" , you dont have a clue how actual, production ready coding is done.

I would bet google is high on this as well. Considering they use Linux based kernel for Android, it should be pretty easy for them to implement such things into Chrome. Firefox is also pretty popular on Linux, so I would bet that will also be forthcoming.

Linux kernel is so much "smarter" than windows kernel. MS really needs to get their act together. Win8 is a subpar product, and they're trying to ram it down the consumer's throat. I would bet we see a Vista like short product cycle on win8 if I was a gambling man...unless they're that committed, in terms of resources, to this product. In which case, I would expect the minority operating systems of the world will start competing more and taking market share from MS. That would likely open their eyes a bit to the travesty that is windows 8. Sadly, it has some decent features incorporated, it's just geared more toward tablets and other things, and less toward a typical desktop OS.

The UI of Windows 8 doesn't bother me, but it's still really buggy and unstable. It also has issues running some older games that I still play occasionally. Until Microsoft can fix this Windows 7 will be the only option for me.

Im pretty sure windows 8 and windows 7 uses the same legacy mode when running old software.

 

[anxiousinfusion]

http://wccftech.com/amd-a10-6800k-richland-apu-performance-unveiled/

Anyone know what is AMD chipset K15.1? I'm not familiar with AMD chipsets outside of 990FX, 970FX, etc. And, yes, this is a leak from the upcoming launch in June.

 

[montosaurous]

The best possible strategy for AMD to popularise multi-core computing is to start adding code to Firefox and Chrome. As long as web browsers remain mostly single threaded, everyday-multi-core computing will be meh. Making the current mozilla engine multiprocessing is almost impossible, except for a selected few cases. Adding GPU acceleration is comparitively easier.
Samsung are smart that they started contributing code to the mozilla experimental multithreaded engine Servo. I wont be much surprised if Google also have something similar going deep in their dungeons.

And to all the people who say that "multithreaded coding is easy" , you dont have a clue how actual, production ready coding is done.

I would bet google is high on this as well. Considering they use Linux based kernel for Android, it should be pretty easy for them to implement such things into Chrome. Firefox is also pretty popular on Linux, so I would bet that will also be forthcoming.

Linux kernel is so much "smarter" than windows kernel. MS really needs to get their act together. Win8 is a subpar product, and they're trying to ram it down the consumer's throat. I would bet we see a Vista like short product cycle on win8 if I was a gambling man...unless they're that committed, in terms of resources, to this product. In which case, I would expect the minority operating systems of the world will start competing more and taking market share from MS. That would likely open their eyes a bit to the travesty that is windows 8. Sadly, it has some decent features incorporated, it's just geared more toward tablets and other things, and less toward a typical desktop OS.

The UI of Windows 8 doesn't bother me, but it's still really buggy and unstable. It also has issues running some older games that I still play occasionally. Until Microsoft can fix this Windows 7 will be the only option for me.

Im pretty sure windows 8 and windows 7 uses the same legacy mode when running old software.

Well, not all programs that work on Windows 7 work on Windows 8.

 

[montosaurous]

Also, can anyone here tell me how well the A10-5800k works? My dad's laptop went on the fritz last night, so I ordered him one for a desktop build.

 

[esrever]

Also, can anyone here tell me how well the A10-5800k works? My dad's laptop went on the fritz last night, so I ordered him for a desktop build.

what kind of use does he have? If he doesn't need extreme performance, get a A10 5700 with an SSD and it will be all he will need.

 

[montosaurous]

Also, can anyone here tell me how well the A10-5800k works? My dad's laptop went on the fritz last night, so I ordered him for a desktop build.

what kind of use does he have? If he doesn't need extreme performance, get a A10 5700 with an SSD and it will be all he will need.

I already ordered the 5800k (It was $1 more so I figure I might as well have). He's just doing basic office things, though he'll probably want it to last awhile.

 

[esrever]

Also, can anyone here tell me how well the A10-5800k works? My dad's laptop went on the fritz last night, so I ordered him for a desktop build.

what kind of use does he have? If he doesn't need extreme performance, get a A10 5700 with an SSD and it will be all he will need.

I already ordered the 5800k (It was $1 more so I figure I might as well have). He's just doing basic office things, though he'll probably want it to last awhile.

should be good, reason to choose the 5700 ober the 5800k is you probably don't need OC for an office PC and lower power and lower heat is nice.

 

[jdwii]

Are there any GPU accelerated anti-virus ? I suppose a GPU can be pretty handy for pattern matching and heuristic detection.

http://www.geek.com/news/kapersky-labs-releases-gpu-anti-virus-that-runs-360x-faster-than-on-core-2-duo-cpu-1019451/

I've only heard of it once and that is with Nvidia and that article is over 3 years old.

 

[jdwii]

The best possible strategy for AMD to popularise multi-core computing is to start adding code to Firefox and Chrome. As long as web browsers remain mostly single threaded, everyday-multi-core computing will be meh. Making the current mozilla engine multiprocessing is almost impossible, except for a selected few cases. Adding GPU acceleration is comparitively easier.
Samsung are smart that they started contributing code to the mozilla experimental multithreaded engine Servo. I wont be much surprised if Google also have something similar going deep in their dungeons.

And to all the people who say that "multithreaded coding is easy" , you dont have a clue how actual, production ready coding is done.

I would bet google is high on this as well. Considering they use Linux based kernel for Android, it should be pretty easy for them to implement such things into Chrome. Firefox is also pretty popular on Linux, so I would bet that will also be forthcoming.

Linux kernel is so much "smarter" than windows kernel. MS really needs to get their act together. Win8 is a subpar product, and they're trying to ram it down the consumer's throat. I would bet we see a Vista like short product cycle on win8 if I was a gambling man...unless they're that committed, in terms of resources, to this product. In which case, I would expect the minority operating systems of the world will start competing more and taking market share from MS. That would likely open their eyes a bit to the travesty that is windows 8. Sadly, it has some decent features incorporated, it's just geared more toward tablets and other things, and less toward a typical desktop OS.

The UI of Windows 8 doesn't bother me, but it's still really buggy and unstable. It also has issues running some older games that I still play occasionally. Until Microsoft can fix this Windows 7 will be the only option for me.

I've had issues with several programs when starting 8 that never happened when i jumped to 7 when i had vista.

 

[8350rocks]

http://wccftech.com/amd-a10-6800k-richland-apu-performance-unveiled/

Anyone know what is AMD chipset K15.1? I'm not familiar with AMD chipsets outside of 990FX, 970FX, etc. And, yes, this is a leak from the upcoming launch in June.

I think that's the SB950 chipset on 9XX series MBs and A75/A85 FM2 MBs

 

[montosaurous]

Also, can anyone here tell me how well the A10-5800k works? My dad's laptop went on the fritz last night, so I ordered him for a desktop build.

what kind of use does he have? If he doesn't need extreme performance, get a A10 5700 with an SSD and it will be all he will need.

I already ordered the 5800k (It was $1 more so I figure I might as well have). He's just doing basic office things, though he'll probably want it to last awhile.

should be good, reason to choose the 5700 ober the 5800k is you probably don't need OC for an office PC and lower power and lower heat is nice.

I can always downclock it if I need to, but for now it should be fine.

 

[palladin9479]

Spoiler

The best possible strategy for AMD to popularise multi-core computing is to start adding code to Firefox and Chrome. As long as web browsers remain mostly single threaded, everyday-multi-core computing will be meh. Making the current mozilla engine multiprocessing is almost impossible, except for a selected few cases. Adding GPU acceleration is comparitively easier.
Samsung are smart that they started contributing code to the mozilla experimental multithreaded engine Servo. I wont be much surprised if Google also have something similar going deep in their dungeons.

And to all the people who say that "multithreaded coding is easy" , you dont have a clue how actual, production ready coding is done.

I would bet google is high on this as well. Considering they use Linux based kernel for Android, it should be pretty easy for them to implement such things into Chrome. Firefox is also pretty popular on Linux, so I would bet that will also be forthcoming.

Linux kernel is so much "smarter" than windows kernel. MS really needs to get their act together. Win8 is a subpar product, and they're trying to ram it down the consumer's throat. I would bet we see a Vista like short product cycle on win8 if I was a gambling man...unless they're that committed, in terms of resources, to this product. In which case, I would expect the minority operating systems of the world will start competing more and taking market share from MS. That would likely open their eyes a bit to the travesty that is windows 8. Sadly, it has some decent features incorporated, it's just geared more toward tablets and other things, and less toward a typical desktop OS.

The UI of Windows 8 doesn't bother me, but it's still really buggy and unstable. It also has issues running some older games that I still play occasionally. Until Microsoft can fix this Windows 7 will be the only option for me.

I've had issues with several programs when starting 8 that never happened when i jumped to 7 when i had vista.

This is a difference between environment and kernel. Windows 7 and 8 have near identical kernels but difference environments. Programs expect certain variables, file locations, configuration information and general behavior to be a certain way when their programmed. Some programs are smart enough to detect when something is different and try to work around it, others are patched to properly detect and deal with the new environment and still others are forgotten and stay broke until someone comes up with a band-aid for it. Programmers are notorious for using "undocumented features" as short-cuts. Those are just quirks in the OS's behavior that weren't specifically designed for and because their non-standard are subject to being changed on the next major release.

If people don't have a reason to go with Windows 8 then they should stay with Windows 7. A higher number is not always the best option.

 

[mayankleoboy1]

I think a large part of the criticism of Win8 are just hidden complaints over no perf improvement. Win8 would have been readily accepted (Metro et al.) IF performance would have been increased.

 

[amdfangirl]

If people don't have a reason to go with Windows 8 then they should stay with Windows 7. A higher number is not always the best option.

Lately I've been using my Core 2 Duo computer running Scientific Linux 6.

So much less stress when you don't have to ring Redmond everytime you reinstall, then sit through multiple Windows updates as you manually use installers to install your apps (solving things like missing .Net) while you also optimise your computer for SSDs.

Provided you stay in the repos, everything is sweet.

 

[palladin9479]

If people don't have a reason to go with Windows 8 then they should stay with Windows 7. A higher number is not always the best option.

Lately I've been using my Core 2 Duo computer running Scientific Linux 6.

So much less stress when you don't have to ring Redmond everytime you reinstall, then sit through multiple Windows updates as you manually use installers to install your apps (solving things like missing .Net) while you also optimise your computer for SSDs.

Provided you stay in the repos, everything is sweet.

I'm a fan of CentOS myself. Gotta add a few more repo's due their policy of sticking with strict RHEL stuff. Otherwise amazing linux distro, though not for Linux newbs.

 

[mayankleoboy1]

i heard linux pros use archlinux ?

 

[howee]

http://amdfx.blogspot.ca/2013/05/amd-steamroller-fx-9650-45-ghz-48-ghz.html

This is the performance values we may be looking at for Steamy if 30 percent increase is true (although I am quite doubtful, feel free to prove me wrong AMD)

I hope Steamroller is a hit

 

[sarinaide]

JML12, that failtroll really just googles up everything AMD then purges it with drivel so that even my 3570 blue screens.

 

[de5_Roy]

AMD’s Xbox deal worth more than $3 billion
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/31504-amd’s-xbox-deal-worth-more-than-$3-billion
(i dunno why the link-posting is failing. select the whole link and drag it to open the link if you're having trouble.)

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Yea, the naysayers will have to move on to another "fact"

And of course, nVidia didnt want to bother with this trifle either

 

[BeastLeeX]

Apparently AMD is launching 28nm Desktop GPUs this year:
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-hd-8000-series-reportedly-launching-q3-2013-specifications-revealed/

I don't know if I would believe this though. The 8870 is a 7870 XT rebranded, and it cost more? I can buy dual fan model for like $240 on a good day. Also the 8950 is pretty much the same chip with more vram, but on 256-bit. This is definitely a questionable rumor.

 

[kettu]

Is this Steamroller? If it is, interesting times ahead I think
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=63622

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Some are saying yes, some saying its Ex, some saying its Ex brought forwards

 

[kettu]

http://amdfx.blogspot.ca/2013/05/amd-steamroller-fx-9650-45-ghz-48-ghz.html

This is the performance values we may be looking at for Steamy if 30 percent increase is true (although I am quite doubtful, feel free to prove me wrong AMD)

I hope Steamroller is a hit

I have no idea wether that blog is a reliable source or not. But a 30% performance improvement in highly parallel workloads doesn't seem far fetched if SR is being pictured here compared with Piledriver. We allready knew about dedicated decoders but in this shot it seems that the floating point units have been doubled up from PD!

http://i.imgur.com/b33tNAp.jpg

Perhaps Steamroller will be a hit