AMD Phenom FX Deneb Core - Kentsfield Beater

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heylo fouks.....

found this link when i googled for something else... sheer luck...
the original site is hardspell.com

now... don't stone me to death just yet... but increased competition is indeed good news... whether you are an Intel fan or of AMD

http://nl.babelfish.yahoo.com/transl...TrUrl=Vertalen
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Your link takes me to babelfish blog window ???
 
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wow for now who cares......stop being babies


as long as it can run Word and Excel faster then that is all that matters...it woudl be nice to drop 16gb of RAM in with that thing and actually be able to get in a game of minesweeper or solitaire.
 
Its a bird ? Its a plane ? Oh noes, it is thunderman !!!

Hell mate, don't quote, don't copy paste. Use you own words and arguments mate !!

My dog is managing a successful botnet, and he only knows to do copy+paste.
 


[/sigh]
Ahh yes...an 'analyst' said AMD is coming back.

I see your analayst and raise you 2 investment ratings:


Analyst states AMDs stock going to zero:

http://www.stockpickr.com/problog/766/


Regardless of market direction, regardless of the economy, there are a few companies out there that are already the walking dead. They can’t compete, or they’ve suffered from years of poor management, or their expenses have spiraled out of control due to rising cost of inputs, or they are just in the wrong business at the wrong time.

Even Buffett has said that the best management team in the world can’t save a business in a poor industry. He found this out all too well when he bought a struggling textile mill and failed to turn it around: Berkshire Hathaway. Ultimately, he gave up on the mill and stuck to insurance.

Hedge funds know all too clearly which stocks are going down the drain. When a stock is heavily shorted, there is only one reason: Hedge funds are gunning for it. They’ve done the research, they’ve spied on the CEOs and CFOs. They’ve rifled through the garbage cans in the company parking lot. They’ve pretended to b janitors while poking through the papers scattered on the COO's desk.

So here are the things we found in the three stocks below that are going to zero:

- Heavy short interest
- Declining revenues and margins
- A competitor that has become the industry leader by a wide margin
- Factors distracting management
- Heavy debt load so the company will not be able to tread water without restructuring itself and crushing shareholders
- Consistently missed analyst estimates
- Very few quality hedge funds as shareholders

Note: A high P/E ratio is not reason to short. Just because Baidu (BIDU) or Apple (AAPL) has a 100 times P/E doesn’t mean it’s a short. Once it's overvalued, if it continues to grow, it could easily grow even more overvalued. What you need to look for are the companies whose business is fundamentally flawed.
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Advanced Micro Devices (AMD): Last week, AMD posted $1.35 billion in revenues, a sequential quarter-over-quarter decline of 10%, and it guided down for next quarter. Despite enormous technical creativity, AMD simply does not have the resources to compete with Intel (INTC). The myth of a duopoly in the chip space is over, and Intel is the winner.

AMD just replaced its long-time CEO, and it is trying to sell of two fab facilities in order to raise cash, despite raising $600 million just last November. Meanwhile, Intel is sitting on over $11 billion in net cash vs. AMD’s $3.5 billion in net debt. Intel can throw cash at any technical or competitive issue, while AMD is dealing with management turmoil, continued troubles integrating its acquisition of ATI Technologies, and cash management issues.
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"Fitch affirms 'B-' rating on AMD"

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/apwire/8f80d5226bc960d9a73b51fdd7b54fa1.htm

NEW YORK (Associated Press) - Fitch Ratings on Friday affirmed its "B-" issuer default rating on chip maker Advanced Micro Devices Inc. with a "negative" outlook.

A "B-" rating is non-investment grade, also known as "junk."

Fitch said the ratings and outlook continue to reflects its expectations that AMD's operating performance will "remain relatively weak over the near term, despite recent new product introductions."
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"Moody's downgrades ratings for Advanced Micro"


http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/apwire/e814e87ec4063fcfca6ffa9d13d8e25e.htm


NEW YORK (Associated Press) - Moody's Investor Service lowered corporate family ratings for chip maker Advanced Micro Devices Inc., citing ongoing operating losses and a competitive market that includes a bigger rival, Intel Corp.

Moody's said Monday it downgraded the ratings to "B2" from "B1." It also revised the rating on a $390 million senior note due in 2012 to "B3" from "B2" and said the outlook is negative.

The service said in a note its negative rating outlook reflects the company's "challenges to move its operating performance towards a level of self-funding profitability and then to sustain that momentum."

Moody's said it believes Advanced Micro "will remain challenged to internally fund the advancement of its process capability and production capacity, which is essential to keep pace with competitor manufacturing cost reduction and process node advances."

Moody's also cited risks inherent to "the volatile and capital intensive microprocessor segment of the semiconductor industry."
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That is eaither briliant parody or. . . something else.

[EDIT: I mean, OK, I don't know who reads this stuff anyway, but history must be preserved!]
 
It's believable... if you're a total AMD tool!

Think about it, their fastest processor is currently that X4 9950, it runs at a measly, laughable 2.6 ghz. AMD is more worried about getting to 3ghz than some pipe dream.



 
I feel sorry for whoever thought this was even remotely possible...

This is clearly a publicity stunt from a new site hoping for hits - and its clearly worked. Although its fair to say their rep is forever tarnished...
 
What I do find interesting is, if say Deneb uses 12% less power at the same clock, and the 45nm node being used, we actually dont know how well we will see the point of diminishing returns up to/at what frequency, meaning, it could do well and reach much higher clocks, tho 4.4 , even for a dual core, seems preposterous
 
Well, current B3 Phenoms top out at around 3.4GHz on a SB750 mobo, so 3.6 - 3.8GHz should be doable for Deneb, maybe even 4GHz with good cooling.

However, it has to be mentioned that although it does run cooler, it also has a much smaller die compared to Agena, so heat density would be working against it.
 
Doesnt it contain more cache? Wonder how much that applies towards TDP? Also, my take on the 4.4 and 4.0 would be at 4.0 comes the quad, whereas at 4.4 would be the dual. I dont believe it, but people have expressed why there two FX chips in the article, maybe this is why
 
^Phenom FX was replaced by Phenom BE. The FX series was supposed to be the 9950BE, if you remember the older FX series had a unlocked multi and were priced much higher and normally a higher stock speed.

This is complete BS. Its just too hard to believe and especially since they compared it to a 5GHz Kentsfield which has never been tested. They also fail to mention in what.
 
Oh I know its too hard to believe. Im just saying, trying to poke holes in by saying theyre offering 2 unlocked is insane, maybe thats what theyre saying, and the more important part is the clocks themselves which shouldnt be believed. Also, whats the importance of having an FX if it isnt? If these were truly coming out, then yes, Id say they would be called FX, as theyd most certainly be top performers, but since AMD doesnt have a top performer, they dont use that term, tho they could, if they ever do again
 

FX series isnt done. in the past FX processors have been rebranded opterons, and always have the highest clock frequency of any of the other AMD cpus at the time of its release. FX series cpus are also supposed to be top of the line enthusiast cpus, like core 2 extreme level. untill you see any AMD's that can get near a core 2 extreme you wont see an FX series
 


The main point of the FX series was the unlocked multiplier. It was there to fight againast the Intel EE CPUs hence when the first FXs hit they were in the $1K area of price.



Well until AMD can get a higher clocked CPU you are right the FX series wont come back. That and they normally price the FX series very high in price because it is supposed to be the highest clocked CPU with the highest OCing ability just like the Intel EE CPUs.

But as I said this is more than likely fake.
 


Bwhahahaha!!!!

As soon as I see a thread with reference to Intel and AMD and a word such as "beater" then I know its bollocks. FACT.
 


*tranqs the wingding and transports back to his cage*

nothing to see here folks.
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Holy crap....who left the door unlocked
 
Personally, I'm still highly irritated with AMD for not producing anything to challenge Intel in the past few years.

Think about it - if Intel has no challenge, then Intel has carte blanche to charge whatever prices they want, and no incentive to make faster, better chips.

And as for who left the door unlocked... what? There's a lock on it?
 
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