AMD PhenomII X3 710(720BE) 3core --> 4core PhenomII X4 920

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what should we do more??

if u have eyes..u can c the mov file..from last page..

r u guys don't trust other people?

it's true.. just see the reply from first of this post..

don't u believe what we said?

if u don't wanna trust..just don't trust it..

the result will show..what we(korean guys) said 2 u guys..
 
oh, you want prime stable?

but I can't believe u guys. maybe I'm running prime95 and post it
that u guys says 'It's fake~ I can't believe it'

aren't you? u guys can't believe 'X3 to Quadcore?' I think not
u guys can't belive 'why korean?' I think this is u guys truth.

Why? See the post there is Prime95 stable screenshots.

 
Why So Serious, you guys? I think it isn't important whether he posts additional videos because his, or maybe his friend's, CPU seems luckily stable. Since it's just an example of proof of concept, you don't need to be too optimistic, furious or aggressive. That's meaningless debate for us.

Besides, reading an article written in Korean, I found approximately more than a third of X3s were quite unstable while applying the trick[1]. There are also a number of other Korean reports representing the failure in stabilization, so you don't need to rush to Newegg or elsewhere.

[1] http://www.playwares.com/xe/?document_srl=2246121&mid=mainreview&listStyle=&cpage=
 


just do use the favor and show if it is indeed P95 stable so werxen leaves this thread along. I want to see if my point is correct on that not all of the X3's Fourth core is bad.
 
You know similar stuff has been getting done with graphics cards for years...you could bios flash an x1800pro to open up more pipelines and turn it into an x1800xt for example.

I'm not saying I believe this...but if it's true then jesus AMD have been very, very smart because this is the sort of 'news' that will sell millions more 720 BE's 😛
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There is a difference when its a BIOS that is disabling the performance of a GPU and when a core is turned off because it is bad or unstable. Hell I have a HD2900Pro 1GB that I have OCed to the XT speeds. Just like the old 9500 Pro could be turned into a 9700Pro by a simple soder.

Either way it seems unlikely that a BIOS option would do it. Even if it can I still say its not a good idea. The CPU was turned into a Tri core for a reason. Because it was not able to be used in daily use and will cause instability, crashing and eventually corruption.

BTW, for one of the people who have gotten this to work, run Prime 95. And don't just run it for 1-2 minutes. That means nothing. Run it for 8-12 hours. Then post the results and see if it made it through without any errors.
 
You know similar stuff has been getting done with graphics cards for years...you could bios flash an x1800pro to open up more pipelines and turn it into an x1800xt for example.

I'm not saying I believe this...but if it's true then jesus AMD have been very, very smart because this is the sort of 'news' that will sell millions more 720 BE's 😛
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TBH I am willing to bet his will happen. Then people will realize that it may be doable but not the best thing to do. Its lik having an unstable OC or memory. If you use it for a while files get corrupted and cause crashes and overall system loss.
 
Ok, if any one is truly interested in running P95 and think that they are going to be called a fake. Please download HyperCam and video it, that will put it in good reputation. By the looks of it it *IS* possible to get X3 to X4.
 
dudu don't misunderstand what we(korean guys) told u..

and also if u c all the reply u'll feel it..

At the beginning,we just wanna share info about it..

but u guys didn't trust it to be possible..

u guys look like don't beleive what we said..

it doesn't mean to make u guys upset..

as u know english is not our native language..

u guys also same as us i think..

that's why some people was bit upset i think..

and they tried to reply anything..

so that's whay he(korean guy) replied

'720be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8500'

but did u c that what werxen replied??

'america >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> korea. get over it. '

after we c that reply..we thought u guys try to ignore what we said u guys..

one of korean guys was felt bit upset coz of that reply..

so he captured mov and uploaded on a vimeo..

it taken about 2 hours..u know what it means????

after post mov url in this post..

some people seems to be believe what we said..

I don't know exactly..

did we do the wrong things??

is that a problem that korean guys post some information in this community??

if u guys were in our shoes..what should u guys do??

if u were in our case..would u really wanna do anything that we wanted to u guys??

just think about it..

what i talk about.....

 

There is one more possible reason: market demand.
Now that AMD has created a market for cheap tri-core cpus, even if it was because of poor yields and a failed 4th core in the beginning, they might not get enough failed x4s anymore to meet the demand and have chosen to disable perfectly good x4s to sell as a cheaper x3 instead. This has happened with gpus in the past...

While this tri-to-quad-trick seems too easy, I was one of those 'wth has southbridge to do with OCing' -guys when the sb750 and ACC first came out, so I guess anything is possible :pt1cable:
 


hey dudu..did u read all reply..and what i post??

i already said i don't have heca&mobo and also u can c that easily.. lol

I don't have any heca..and 790gx mobo..

what can i do 4 u??

lol
 
i'm just amd brisbane4800(2.5@3.0) user..

if u c all reply carefully..u can c that easily.. lol

i'm a person who wanna buy heca&790gx mobo..

also wanna try tri-core into quad-core..

but unfountenely..i don't have enough money 4 buy it.. lol

i'm just normal person who very interested in this happen..

😉
 
look dude its not a quad core if its not stable, got it? its not what u claimed if i can only boot to windows then later have it crash as soon as i stress it at all. why dont you just do what we asked and run a stress test for a few hours and take some videos and SS, that will be ur best bet. until then you can say korea this korea that but it does not matter where you are from - prime95 is the same wherever you live. you need to run that program ASAP. its not stable so all your guys claims earlier were full of crap like i predicted.
 
hey..werxen..i recommend u should read other guys reply with more care

u don't understand what i said??

i don't have any heca&mobo..

u don't have eyes or u can't c my reply..or just ignore??

lol
 
OK, here's the deal:

I'm a software engineer of 15 years. I have been working with PC hardware since the mid-80s (AT 286-10MHz in 1986).

Why would I disbelieve the video?

Point: During his switching to triple/quad mode, you could hear a clicking in the back. During a reboot, using a mouse or keyboard is not necessary (unless I am totally out of the loop on how to reboot a system and how they do it). He could have been using a monitor switch, and a engineering sample CPU. Who knows tho. I sure don't.

Do I think it is impossible that 3-cores can be made 4-cores??

No. I think that before, AMD has "disabled" cores and done this. It may just be possible that a BIOS revision has a capability that AMD did not plan for and now, probably to their chagrin if it's true, it unlocks the core that is "disabled".

One thing to note: If it is true, AMD could be taking CPUs with one defective core and re-labelling while at the same time taking throw-offs (CPUs scratched or otherwise imperfect) from the x4 assembly to the x3 assembly and disabling a core even though it may work fine.

I don't know tho. I don't work at AMD.

However, I have ordered a 720BE processor and will be ordering a 790-based mobo (hopefully ASRock) as soon as I can find one on the net. Newegg has none.

I live in FL btw, and will probably not get the thing til Friday and will have to swap out my current mobo and CPU that evening. So don't expect a result til the weekend or later.

I will do my best to make it happen so you all can know whether or not it's true.

Edit #1: Clarified context of post

Edit #2: I looked at the ASRock site. I have 2 nVidia cards, and their mobo is Crossfire compatible. I am looking for a different motherboard.

Edit #3: I decided to get the AM2+ Biostar TA790GX since a) it was listed as successful, and b) it will make a good backup for my ASRock K10N...-Wifi mobo if it even breaks down. Moved Edit #2 to bottom, added Edit #1 for accuracy.
 


i'm really appericiate ite..

i also use computer from 286xt..

my first computer was 286xt 10mhz,1mb ram,5.25&3.5 fdd,20Mb hdd,mono graphic card(which based isa..i'm not to sure)

but i'm just computer user lol

cool..u should be smart..coz u r engineer..

u ordered it..cool.. i envy u..

but it needs some risk i think..

it's not 100%..

till now organized research it's about 70% success transfrom tri-core into quad-core..

about 30% was failed unfountenely..

i hope u'll be success of it..

i really wanna buy it and do the test..

but i don't have enough money..

lol
 
and i used it (286xt 10mhz) from 1989 😉

at that time it was bit hard to use it..

coz i have to type all of command..

like "dir,copy,del,attrib,ren, and so on"

also have to do the memory manage..

if i was wanna use xms..just load himem.sys

but if i wanna use ems..had to load emm386.exe

have to make batch file for manage memory..

config.sys,autoexec.bat .. lol

i think at that time people who use computer more that 286xt

they know how to manage memory..

how to do the copy..diskcopy..format ..

whatever..

lol

but..that's another story..
 
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