AMD PhenomII X3 710(720BE) 3core --> 4core PhenomII X4 920

[spathotan]

Youre talking to a wall Freshspace.

 

[B-Unit]

Wow, thats nice, join today and suddenly your the forum police.

Get a clue freshspace.

 

[fazers_on_stun]

The theory sounds nice, but inorder to make it an X3 you have to identify the bad core to disable.

Maybe they use voodoo dudu to find the bad core

I find it hard to belive in their current finacial situation that if a perfectly functioning X4 comes thru they go ahead and castrate it

I find quite a few things Hector has done lately, hard to believe. But I have to agree - it seems ridiculous for AMD to purposefully release an X3 that somebody could upgrade to a quad for free. Gotta think this is another dudu booboo on their part .

 

[caamsa]

hey dude shut up seriously you are annoying. 1) this article does not mean anything 2) it says its not stable 3) it says the ones testing were taken from random people testing it.

these claims were taken FROM PEOPLE. its the same people from korea who claim it works yet do not provide any evidence of it being stable aka running prime95 for more than 1 second. get your head out of your ass and open your eyes.

edit: enough time has been put out for a site to claim it works yet nothing has been confirmed. its like taking articles from blogs and claiming them as political facts when they are just opinions of opinions of opinions. shut up dude you know nothing so do not claim you do. i am looking for answers not speculation.

Ok, first you say it was not true and now that it is true you are saying it is not stable. You keep changing the rules. Please make up you freaking mind you are acting like some anal retentive A$$.

Please don't procreate!

 

[Embra]

Perhaps we should all step back here and take a deep breathe. The topic is an interesting one. The proof should pan itself out in a couple of days. Lets be a little more mature and keep the discussion civil. 😉

 

[caamsa]

Perhaps we should all step back here and take a deep breathe. The topic is an interesting one. The proof should pan itself out in a couple of days. Lets be a little more mature and keep the discussion civil. 😉

And why would we want to do that.........?

 

[spathotan]

Contains the contents of this thread.

 

[blackpanther26]

Do any of you think that maybe AMD is testing this out and see how many people will buy the X3 becuase of this just so they get profit? And maybe a little bit later AMD will have a BIOS option on the X3 so you can renable the 4th core? Perferably the Black Edition.

 

[BadTrip]

not a chance

 

[spathotan]

That would be counter productive, as it would kill higher priced X4 sales.

 

[BadTrip]

^+1

 

[werxen]

Ok, first you say it was not true and now that it is true you are saying it is not stable. You keep changing the rules. Please make up you freaking mind you are acting like some anal retentive A$$.

Please don't procreate!

"yeah i have the same feeling. im still very skeptical unless by some freak accident some korean guys managed to get their hands no a couple phenoms that did not have the 4th core disabled."

"^ pretty much what i thought. yeah it might work for whatever reason but it is pointless. i can overclock my CPU to 5 gigahertz but if its not stable its not faster than my cpu at 4.5. interesting find though... if its legit."

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/258443-28-wich-processor


you seriously need to shut up at this point. you do not know what you are talking about and you ramble on and on about theories when the obvious thing to do is just wait until someone credible on TOMS makes an actual report. can you do that? can you stop crying and moaning till that happens?

 

[jcknouse]

To be honest, I truly don't know what to think. I don't know if the X3 I ordered, in conjunction with the TA790GX mobo, will yield something totally positive.

But, I had to know.

That's why I'm investing the money and time.

I want to see what happens.

That's what experimentation, exploration, and curiousity drives: the search for knowledge...and the truth.

Maybe I get an x4. Probably won't.

But if I do, then it means we all learn something from this, and then we all learn. And in that, I made a (relatively) small sacrifice to make things better (through the communication of experience and knowledge) that improves all of our knowledge...in part...or whole.

If I could afford 10 CPUs and had the time, I would have gotten 10 and tested them all. But, I don't have the resources either way.

In essence, I'm taking a long shot. If it works, so be it. Small sacrifice to pay.

If not, then so be it. I have an AM3 x3 processor to drop later in an AM3 board and use for whatever purpose I have (if it doesn't work better than the current AM2+ 9850 Phenom processor I have running OCed at 2.86GHZ).


Edit: Oops! I'm OCed at 2.908GHz lol

Either way...we all learn something from it

 

[werxen]

^ best thing is to wait. the bad thing is a lot of the people here are claiming that it works or works sometimes etc etc when its all bs. nobody credible has said anything yet and that is a fact. been saying it from the beginning and saying it now: some old schooler on toms needs to try this out or the website needs to take a crack at it. until then you can blog and link to korean websites all you want it means jack.

 

[spathotan]

Its not wise to buy these chips based off a freak accident.

 

[werxen]

Its not wise to buy these chips based off a freak accident.

i agree. definitely do not recommend buying these chips thinking that you can turn them into a 4 core processor which is what this whole damn topic has been about. thank you for seeing the light spath.

 

[BadTrip]

I personally wouldn't even look at this as anything more than a freak accident or a publicity stunt until Anand or Toms does an in depth story

 

[spathotan]

Well I said back on page 2 or whatever that its not a smart decision. Its like going out and playing dollar slots because your friend won $40,000 off it last night. A gamble is still a gamble.

While im semi convinced by the posted video and screenshots, im not ready to put my name on any dotted line due to A. the 50 korean swarm accounts, and B. no users from toms/anand or whatever have came forth.

 

[blackpanther26]

it's not BS. Some one at Anandtech got a Phenom X3 and enabled the 4th core. So far he is testing it and using P95.
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=2280541&enterthread=y

 

[werxen]

I personally wouldn't even look at this as anything more than a freak accident or a publicity stunt until Anand or Toms does an in depth story

dude pretty much what i have been saying since the first page. THANK YOU. now the rest of you - snap back into reality like spath and BT please - thanks.

 

[jcknouse]

i agree. definitely do not recommend buying these chips thinking that you can turn them into a 4 core processor which is what this whole damn topic has been about. thank you for seeing the light spath.

I agree. And I will state unequivocably right now:

DO NOT BUY THIS CLASS OF PROCESSOR THINKING THAT AMD IS GONNA GIVE YOU A FREEBIE

Business doesn't work that way. AMD would not "throw away" money like that.

But, I am doing this as a personal experiment, and I am going to share my results with you all.

Like I said: I get an x3 PhenomII out of this. That benefits me, no matter what. I can shove it and some DDR3-1333 memory in an AM3 board in 6 months and use it for an HTPC or whatever else. I have 2 Windows XP x64 CDs with license laying around on my bookshelf still. I have options.

But, I am doing this to see what happens.

And whatever the result of the experiment, I am going to share the results with you all. So werxen and spathotan and others are right:

Don't buy this chip thinking you'll get some gift. It's highly unlikely.

I'll let you all know when I get the hardware. And as I said, I'll get the Canon digital camera out and take pics and what not, and run all the benchmarks I can in the process of testing it.

 

[spathotan]

it's not BS. Some one at Anandtech got a Phenom X3 and enabled the 4th core. So far he is testing it and using P95.
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=2280541&enterthread=y

hmmm....

 

[werxen]

it's not BS. Some one at Anandtech got a Phenom X3 and enabled the 4th core. So far he is testing it and using P95.
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=2280541&enterthread=y

...dude there is zero evidence on that thread. ZERO. no pictures, no videos, no benchmarks just talk. have you seriously missed the whole point of this thread? stop posting.

 

[yomamafor1]

Here is the thing. AMD will disable 1 core if the entire die does not pass its validation testing. However, what does validation testing includes, we don't know. It could be that this user obtained a die that has defect in a relatively non-crucial area (L2 cache, for instance), that did not pass AMD's stress test.

So how many CPUs that will exhibit the same capability? Unknown. Its really a hit or miss, with miss being more likely.

 

[yomamafor1]

You wouldn't buy a 720 BE on the chance that you might get a free core anyway. You'd buy one because it owns the entire Core 2 series by itself and has intel fanboys crying like babies over it.

Entire Core 2 line... as in Core 2 Duo that does not exceed 3.0Ghz?