AMD Radeon HD 7000 Series OEM Models Revealed

[Mousemonkey]

PhysX would like to have a word with you, as would hardware tesselation.

Oh look AMD has broken the 100 meter dash record whilst running away!

 

[republicano]

so for everyone else, wait for the 8000 series.

 

[Guest]

Stop sooking these are all OEM crappy low end parts so STFU. I dont care what manufacturing process some uber low end model uses and i guess AMD dont either - because it's low end! Whoop-de-doo...

 

[blazorthon]

I would have preferred AMD using the VLIW4 arch from the 6900 cards then rebranding an already rebranded GPU. I have no problem with AMD using 40nm for low end cards, it's cheaper and easier than a die shrink for the low end parts and those low end parts really don't need the die shrink to perform better.

The differences between some of the 6000 cards and 5000 cards was pretty much added support for blu-ray and a few other things that aren't used often. Granted these were welcome additions but I hope AMD at least added something similarly important of better to the new rebrands.

Sure I won't buy low end cards and I didn't buy them before either but I would have liked to see something better than a rebrand of a rebrand. Hopefully AMD will make new low end cards in the 8000 series.

 

[Guest]

Well... let's not forget that prices decline anyway. But they decline even more if there's something newer out on the market. Saying: A 6670 costs, let's pretend, 100 bugs. As soon as the 7670 appears, the 7670 will, fore sure, cost more - let's say 110 bugs. But, as there is a newer card, the 6670 will decline, dropping to 6670. So, for us, who know that the 7670 is mostly the same card as the 6670, we can buy a cheaper 6670 and feel awesome ^^

 

[dalauder]

I imagine this means the 8000 series midrange cards will get trickle down of the Southern Islands (that's 7700-7900 series, right?). The 7670 being essentially a rebadged 5670 is getting ridiculous.

I'd have loved to see the 7670 get 6770 or better performance on an $80 card with no 6-pin. But so long as NVidia continues to ignore the no 6-pin market (by only offering the GT 240 and no gaming level DX11 card), AMD really has no incentive.

 

[dalauder]

[citation][nom]alidan[/nom] i want them to make the games look great on a mid range card, take skyrim as an example, build it for a mid range card, and give the people with high end cards the sliders to increase the lod distance, and density of the foliage. [/citation]Skyrim pretty much maxes out on last generation's midrange GTX 460 1GB. Just Cause 2 looks incredible on a GTX 460 1GB, and Metro 2033 is totally playable on "High" on that card. So I don't know what you're talking about. Or by midrange, do you mean low-end like a GTS 250, which is essentially a rebadged 5 year old card?

There's nothing wrong with making games playable on midrange cards. But to make highend cards useless--well that doesn't drive the industry forward at all. How many copies of Crysis/Crysis 2 do you think would have sold if they could be maxed out on a GTX 260? Not many--and nobody would buy a Radeon 6970 if you could drive 2 screens at 1080p and max/high settings on a 5770.

Well optimized games are great--but we've got enough games like MW3 that have graphics turned down because they're console ports to where they don't need to make that a focus.

 

[dalauder]

[citation][nom]clonazepam[/nom]Well there's nvidia fans, amd fans, and then the largest group being the "best bang for the buck" fans. AMD's probably more compelling right now to that 3rd group, but neither AMD or nVidia has anything significant to pull members from their rivals' camps. Nvidia can sit on their laurels another 1-2 months and get things right. Right I'm shopping around for a non-gaming laptop powerful enough to log into sw:tor and que up crafting or something... Intel's HD4000 is looking pretty sweet, and I only have to wait until April or something, right?[/citation]I bought a Pentium B950 Sandy Bridge laptop for $250 a month ago or so. I'm planning on dropping in an Ivy Bridge i7, assuming they're 35W TDP. I'll let you know how that goes. Because if I get an Ivy Bridge i7 w/ HD 4000 graphics for

 

[blazorthon]

[citation][nom]dalauder[/nom]I bought a Pentium B950 Sandy Bridge laptop for $250 a month ago or so. I'm planning on dropping in an Ivy Bridge i7, assuming they're 35W TDP. I'll let you know how that goes. Because if I get an Ivy Bridge i7 w/ HD 4000 graphics for[/citation]

I'm pretty sure that you would need the laptop's manufacturer to issue a BIOS update supporting Ivy bridge and I find that an unlikely event. Chances are you can't get Ivy bridge CPUs in any current sandy bridge laptop. I also don't know if the mobile Ivy chips will use the same slot as the mobile Sandy chips like they do for the desktop chips.

HD 4000 is about 60% faster than HD 3000 if I remember correctly so although it is a huge improvement over the previous Intel graphics solutions it is still far off from even the Radeon HD 5570 in gaming. Intel's HD 4000 will rock in encoding/transcoding but not in gaming where AMD Llano still rules integrated graphics until AMD gets Trinity APUs going. Trinity is supposed to have 20-30% performance gains in both CPU and GPU performance.

Can't say for sure or not if you can put an Ivy chip in a current Sandy laptop but even if you can do remember that HD 4000 is still not gaming graphics, it still lags behind the 5570/6570/7570 desktop video cards and integrated graphics on Llano APUs.

 

[dalauder]

[citation][nom]blazorthon[/nom]I'm pretty sure that you would need the laptop's manufacturer to issue a BIOS update supporting Ivy bridge and I find that an unlikely event. Chances are you can't get Ivy bridge CPUs in any current sandy bridge laptop. I also don't know if the mobile Ivy chips will use the same slot as the mobile Sandy chips like they do for the desktop chips.HD 4000 is about 60% faster than HD 3000 if I remember correctly so although it is a huge improvement over the previous Intel graphics solutions it is still far off from even the Radeon HD 5570 in gaming. Intel's HD 4000 will rock in encoding/transcoding but not in gaming where AMD Llano still rules integrated graphics until AMD gets Trinity APUs going. Trinity is supposed to have 20-30% performance gains in both CPU and GPU performance.Can't say for sure or not if you can put an Ivy chip in a current Sandy laptop but even if you can do remember that HD 4000 is still not gaming graphics, it still lags behind the 5570/6570/7570 desktop video cards and integrated graphics on Llano APUs.[/citation]It worked the one time I tried it (Pentium Core Duo Yonah to Core 2 Duo Merom). So all I know is that when I matched the socket & TDP, it worked easily. And the prospect of upgrading a Pentium G950 to Ivy Bridge i7 on the cheap is pretty intriguing!

I'm not expecting HD 4000 to play Metro 2033. But I am expecting it to handle Portal 2, Borderlands, and maybe some console port PC games.

 

[dalauder]

Oh--the end of my message got cut off. If I get a Sandy Bridge i7 laptop with HD 4000 graphics for only $450 total--well...that's amazing!

 

[rog02]

So I think, its good that I bought HD6850 instead of waiting 7000 series.

 

[blazorthon]

[citation][nom]rog02[/nom]So I think, its good that I bought HD6850 instead of waiting 7000 series.[/citation]

Why would you think that? Radeon HD 7700 and up cards (7750, 7770, 7790, 7850, 7870, 7950, 7970, maybe some others I missed) are all based on AMD's new and improved arch, its just the 7300-7600 cards that use the older one from the Radeon 5000 cards.

 

[blazorthon]

I forgot to mention that the Radeon 7770 is about as fast as that 6850 you bought. The 7790 would beat the 6850, might be almost as fast as the 6870.

 

[Guest]

@ BorisBlade7...
Now why would you go and call other people Stupid and Retarded just because some of them don't know the difference between an old and new version being the same? I thought this discussion was about AMD and not the people that went out to buy the graphics cards... I'm just saying that what you said was uncalled for and wrong since at on point in your life you didn't know about this stuff either. Anyways hope everyone has a good day

 

[Guest]

If you think he is bias then just see if he says the same thing about nvida about copy'ing the same card just ramping up some clock speeds, if he does then he is not if he doesnt then maybe you should re think it