slomo4sho :
Chris, what retail 290X did you receive from Newegg? Your results are very different when compared to benchmarks from
actual card owners at OCN
somebodyspecial :
To me it looks like all aftermarket will bring is Toms two retail cards up to (MAYBE) press review cards. Either the two retails are the worst examples on the planet
Tom's results differ drastically from
real world results from owners...
Also, Gsync requires compatible monitors which demand a $100-150 premium over similar monitors without Gsync. In addition, you are basing your purchasing decision on unproven technology. I guess ignorance is bliss
Point me to the posts in that thread showing it different than toms. I see people running 70% (far above the regular 47% fan), 100% etc, but I don't see it running cool and fast without doing something that isn't like the current retail (like adding water, this doesn't count). Toms is showing retail with retail fans causing a slowdown on 2 cards. I don't see people heating them up either and then testing to show any different than toms at retail fan speeds with a retail card's fan, though one guy I saw commented it takes forever for it to cool down after running a test. I don't have time to read the whole thread, but since you're pointing there you must have some posts you know about in there somewhere you can link to directly right? You have to do a little better than go here and read 3000 posts.
At least give a page a few of these GREAT posts that show toms is wrong or something. And I read over 450, so c'mon spit out some post #'s as examples that defy toms results.
You could be completely wasting my time (like the first 450 posts where everyone just discusses ordering, warranty worthless etc). Tell me where to look that shows a retail card running its fan at 47% and matching Toms PRESS review cards. That is what I expect from retail cards, not 20% slower or AMD cherry picked chips for review cards. That rules out all water-cooling posts so should save you some time
It also rules out posts that they changed the fan on, as again that's not showing different than a retail, as you're CHANGING retail in that case and NOT like toms tested retails. Since you're one of the first posts in the thread, surely you can point these people out
You're post #7 and all over in there
Also as some said in that thread, it likely voids the warranty the second you take the thing apart to replace the retail fan/heatsink so this already is a BAD IDEA for most and I double that thought at 95 degress...LOL. Maybe AMD was counting on this. No RMA's if everyone is VOID right ?
VaporX confirmed it (he's with Sapphire right?)? Like I said, I went through the first 450 for nothing before jumping around wasting more time
But a few had some with relevant info like this:
"2. Stock Cooler Really has to go, Takes a very long time to cool down after testing. Like every review said its no joke this card runs hot but its good in the winter =P" post 297
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQhqOKKAq7o
Thread does give some interesting NOISE vids though
Courtesy Nordichardware site.
$ilent got 63 deg but with fan at 100% and doing who knows what for how long, but gpu clock shows 1150 (but this is max, not where it runs over time). No time to read more of the garbage in that thread and $ilent was having all kinds of driver problems while being the only one posting any real data in the first 450+ (a guy told him to re-install his OS...LOL). I think this sums his card up responding to someone saying it can't be $ilent at 100% fan:
"Honestly, its so loud is untrue and when you put your hand at the back of the card exhaust it actually feels like a hair dryer."
I guess I should have went backwards maybe, assuming the posts are better at the end, but one of the first posts says thanks for cleaning up the thread...I was suckered
You could delete the first 450 posts and miss NOTHING but "my card is coming in 3 days" etc.
How is gsync NOT a proven tech? 3 game devs and every review site says it is a sight to behold and is a GAME CHANGER with no re-coding necessary. So far we have ONE monitor at $100 more. Where did you get $150? The card has been mentioned at $100 difference and we have no other models yet. Theoretically this would be cheaper once INSIDE and replacing the chip already in the monitor. As it stands now they'll release a kit for you to do just that. So having it in already without whatever you're replacing should be less than NV's $100 addon.
What piece of evidence do you have that says Gsync doesn't work? Id (carmack), Epic (reigns/sweeney) and EA (andersson from Dice) all say it is awesome. They showed up on stage to declare this. You can watch a bunch of vids from them explaining the tech on youtube. These people, not NV, I mean them personally taking time to tell you why it works and what it does and will allow devs to do. Do devs usually show up to tell you about a product failure? To claim I'm ignorant you have to have some sort of proof someone says it sucks. Find me a developer or review site that said, "I saw that gsync in action, it sucks and is dead, so no point in buying NV for that, it's a failed tech." Heck find anything close to a statement like that. I'll let you off with anything even resembling it was "unimpressive".
Heck I'll go further and say find any of them that says ANYTHING negative besides "AMD doesn't have it"...LOL. I don't count anything saying it's proprietary either. Because we don't know what they will do with it and can license it to anyone they want (though I wouldn't give it to AMD, it's not a detractor to me as a buyer). We have nothing on that topic and AMD may be in talks right now for licensing (doubtful, but just saying none of us knows).
You are calling me ignorant based on guesswork that goes against all current info. I'm saying I'm not ignorant based on all top devs (EA/Id/Epic so far) and top websites saying it was awesome. We have nothing negative said so far as far as functionality and pricing for stutter free/tear free/lag free is worth more than $100 on something I'll live with for 6-7yrs (my current monitors are both 5 & 6 yrs old). I'll pay you more than $13 a year or so for those 3 features that affect me all day when gaming. I expect both of my monitors to live until next xmas when I plan to buy one of these probably. Most of us (98+%) are on 1920x1200 or less, so if we're going to be upgrading soon anyways, it's really only requiring something I already have on my list of upgrades.
Also I don't even need a card if I have anything 650TI or above. I'm not in that group (have radeon 5850) but that's already a lot of people out from that cost. I'll wait for 20nm maxwell but there are many who are already 1/2 way there or wanting 1440p/1600p right now but haven't bit yet due to 1440p cost ($560+ at newegg if you don't buy from foreign or no name sites/brands on newegg, check newegg ONLY box). Most of us are in a waiting mode for vid cards that can turn on EVERY detail and still stay above 30fps min in all games, and monitors to come down a bit at 1440p. Hence 98% below this res. A ton of people have 1440p+ on their menu of upgrades (heck a lot still don't have 1080p according to steampowered surveys). People like me have BOTH already on our upgrade lists so plans haven't changed, just got gsync included.
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