AMD Radeon R9 300 Series MegaThread: FAQ and Resources

[Bossyfins]

But HairWorks ruined AMD Cards, so those who want it will probably move toward a 970/980 ti

 

[ern88]

I need something to upgrade my aging HD7950. I hope to god that the R9 380X and below cards are not a re hash of the R9 2xx cards. If so, I will have to move to team green. Can't believe I said that!!!!!

 

[Bossyfins]

Anything below a 380x is a rebrand.

http://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/Rumor-Entire-Upcoming-AMD-Radeon-300-Series-Be-Rebrands-Existing-200-Series

Not sure about the Fiji XT/Pro or their flagship stuff with hbm

 

[ern88]

So, The R9 370 and below are just going to a rehash of the R9 2xx, which was a rehash of the HD7xxx cards. Great. Green is looking better and better all the time!!!!

 

[Bossyfins]

From what the article said, it seems... the 390 and below are rebrands. 390x and the dual gpu monster is new. Although this may change

 

[ern88]

I think AMD has lost a faithful customer. Been using AMD then ATI cards since the old X800 where released. I just can't stay with a company that just uses 3 year old tech and calls it a different name. If you put lipstick ona pig, it's still a pig!!! I can't afford a $900 plus R9 390x. No wonder Nvidia has the vast majority of the market. If only AMD didn't buy ATI. where would we have been today!!!!!

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Yeah I was considering going AMD but now definitely not.

 

[ChickenWizard]

But guys... we can't jump to any conclusions as AMD still hasn't released the cards yet. Just hold out until benchmarks come in.

 

[Bossyfins]

We know most of how the cards will perform. Anything below a 380/x will be a rebrand

 

[ChickenWizard]

How do we know that?

 

[Bossyfins]

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-tries-to-pull-a-fast-one-with-r9-r7-rebrand/

http://videocardz.com/55289/amd-radeon-rx-300-series-rebrands-spotted-in-drivers

http://www.techspot.com/news/60599-amd-launches-radeon-300-series-rebrands-oems.html

http://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/81853-amd-radeon-300-series-may-largely-consist-rebrands/

http://techreport.com/news/28231/official-specs-confirm-300-series-radeon-rebrands

There still is a chance that they won't be rebrands, but based on the articles posted, I have a felling MANY AMD fans have lost some faith in the company. If a rebrand does occur, NVIDIA will most likely gain more market share with their 980 ti and 970.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-tries-to-pull-a-fast-one-with-r9-r7-rebrand/

http://videocardz.com/55289/amd-radeon-rx-300-series-rebrands-spotted-in-drivers

http://www.techspot.com/news/60599-amd-launches-radeon-300-series-rebrands-oems.html

http://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/81853-amd-radeon-300-series-may-largely-consist-rebrands/

http://techreport.com/news/28231/official-specs-confirm-300-series-radeon-rebrands

There still is a chance that they won't be rebrands, but based on the articles posted, I have a felling MANY AMD fans have lost some faith in the company. If a rebrand does occur, NVIDIA will most likely gain more market share with their 980 ti and 970.

It's almost like they don't even want to compete by creating new innovative products anymore. Intel practically is dominating the CPU market since AMD takes ages to develop and release new CPUs, and Nvidia already has a large portion of the graphics card market and is likely to gain more of it if the 300 series is a failure.

 

[Bossyfins]

Not to mention that the new HBM cards are LIMITED in stock because of the low yields in HBM. This means AMD will only make some money.

 

[uglyduckling81]

AMD CPU division has been propped up for a really long time now by the GPU branch. Even that is failing now which is why it's been years since they turned a profit.

 

[bgi123]

I think AMD has lost a faithful customer. Been using AMD then ATI cards since the old X800 where released. I just can't stay with a company that just uses 3 year old tech and calls it a different name. If you put lipstick ona pig, it's still a pig!!! I can't afford a $900 plus R9 390x. No wonder Nvidia has the vast majority of the market. If only AMD didn't buy ATI. where would we have been today!!!!!

Re-branding isn't at all bad. Nivdia does it all the time also. Its like the the 380x might be a re-hashed 290x... and every other card below it. Just shifting the the cards around a bit. AMD has pretty much been winning with their monster 7000 series for about 2 generations now. Nivida was losing in all but TDP until the 900 series came out. Lets see if AMD has anything to offer with HBM. Might make a 280x as small as a low profile graphics card. Everything right now is just speculation. We won't know until next month hopefully.

 

[greghome]

AMD Fiji aims at $849 retail price
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/37790-amd-fiji-aims-at-849-retail-price

For $849, if you're looking to run 4k wouldn't it make more sense to SLi 970 for under $700 rather than get one 390x? The "estimated" benchmarks put the 970 SLi above the 390x and you save $150.

Yeah I was considering going AMD but now definitely not.

I think AMD has lost a faithful customer. Been using AMD then ATI cards since the old X800 where released. I just can't stay with a company that just uses 3 year old tech and calls it a different name. If you put lipstick ona pig, it's still a pig!!! I can't afford a $900 plus R9 390x. No wonder Nvidia has the vast majority of the market. If only AMD didn't buy ATI. where would we have been today!!!!!

Re-branding isn't at all bad. Nivdia does it all the time also. Its like the the 380x might be a re-hashed 290x... and every other card below it. Just shifting the the cards around a bit. AMD has pretty much been winning with their monster 7000 series for about 2 generations now. Nivida was losing in all but TDP until the 900 series came out. Lets see if AMD has anything to offer with HBM. Might make a 280x as small as a low profile graphics card. Everything right now is just speculation. We won't know until next month hopefully.

It's bad when you're in tech and rebranding 3 year old products.................AMD has either fired all their engineers or have old chips stacked so high that you can build the tower of babel at this point. Hopefuly TSMC can get their die shrinks done right so AMD will finally launch new GPUs if it has a mere case of nothing better can be done as you've suggested.

 

[renz496]

Re-branding isn't at all bad. Nivdia does it all the time also.

except that rebrand was almost covering entire lineup minus the flagship model (R 200 series). even nvidia did not go that far.

AMD has pretty much been winning with their monster 7000 series for about 2 generations now. Nivida was losing in all but TDP until the 900 series came out.

nope. if that's the case then AMD should be able to at least equal Nvidia market share during that time. in fact 7k series actually bring AMD market share from 45% down to 35%. with 900 series nvidia hammered that number down to 24%.

 

[ern88]

Re-branding isn't at all bad. Nivdia does it all the time also.

except that rebrand was almost covering entire lineup minus the flagship model (R 200 series). even nvidia did not go that far.

AMD has pretty much been winning with their monster 7000 series for about 2 generations now. Nivida was losing in all but TDP until the 900 series came out.

nope. if that's the case then AMD should be able to at least equal Nvidia market share during that time. in fact 7k series actually bring AMD market share from 45% down to 35%. with 900 series nvidia hammered that number down to 24%.

That's what I have been saying this whole time. AMD needs to do something. Instead of making a brand new Titan X wannabe GPU and rehashing the rest of the GPU line up. Like I said. I am all but done with AMD. I will wait till the new products come out. Before I swing over to team Green. But if the cards R9 380X down are all the same rehashed cards from yesterdays pass. I am done. And about Nvidia rehashing their lineup. Actuall the have but not the whole lineup, but 1 card like AMD is doing. The did do that for the lower mid end cards.

 

[Bossyfins]

Out of all of the 900 series, only the 960 was near the power of a 760. Just had refined power and what not. However, with the 970, you got something more like a 780-780ti for the price of 350$.

 

[ChickenWizard]

AMD is basically ready to leave the market I guess. They are lazy. I knew green team would always win, not because I am a fanboy, but because AMD is trying to do two things at once where as Intel & NVIDIA can focus on one. Poop.

 

[Bossyfins]

Well. 980 ti priced at 800$. Right in line with the 390x.

http://wccftech.com/evga-geforce-gtx-980-ti-799-msrp-pricing/

 

[renz496]

If amd leaves discrete gpu market then they will turn themselves into VIA. Funny thing is their graphic division probably more profitable than their cpu division but at the same tine the financial burden they are having right now were initially stem from ATI acquisition back in 2006.

 

[renz496]

If amd leaves discrete gpu market then they will turn themselves into VIA. Funny thing is their graphic division probably more profitable than their cpu division but at the same tine the financial burden they are having right now were initially stem from ATI acquisition back in 2006.

 

[Bossyfins]

Yep. AMD is in a VERY sticky situation

 

[uglyduckling81]

AMD is basically ready to leave the market I guess. They are lazy. I knew green team would always win, not because I am a fanboy, but because AMD is trying to do two things at once where as Intel & NVIDIA can focus on one. Poop.

AMD acquired ATI. They became bigger so they could do two things at once. They didn't just devote half their resources to two different products.
Intel are busy with their GPU's as well, it's just they are integrated into the CPU.
If that report about the 980ti being $650 and the 980 dropping in price to make room for it are true that's surely a death knock for AMD. Nvidia must spell blood in the water and are looking to make their move. Get the 980 down around the price of the rebranded 290x (390x). Not even fan boys could buy TEAM RED under those conditions.