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First attempt was 2363

Second Attempt was 2426

Third Attempt was 2449
 
@juan & 8350rocks
well certainly sounds like something is wrong with that leak.. has to be said. But it's clever enough in the sense that it sounds doable.

@simon12
lmao... if they don't deliver it's a major disaster for sure mate..

about the time.. it's gonna be probably five in the morning, my time that is... But that's not saying I'm gonna miss it though :pt1cable:
 




I think the NDA is released on the 28th, but it looks like AnandTech wants to use an official retail version, rather than a reviewer's chip sent by AMD. You can't get the retail chip until March 2.
 
In case of cherry picked chips... sure they even had hand made wooden boxes an I seen an un-boxing on you tube. An the chip did have marks on it lke it had been tested.. I suppose I can see the logic in that.
 
AT's take does make sense (if you're right, George), to be honest. That way they can be spared of the usual "golden sample!" outcry if they get good OC numbers and such. At a first glance, it will be worth it to wait for the OC numbers then.

Cheers!
 


The retail ones should be out and reviewed by monday/tuesday as well most likely.
 


There's always been suspicion (on all camps) about sending "special" samples to "day 1" reviewers. I can't remember when and which outlets, but there have been some reviews where the OC numbers did not match those of samples bought afterwards and such, hence the outcry of "golden sample" started circulating around "too good numbers" for OC in some reviews. So, you can do 2 reviews or just do a solid after-day-1 review with a random retail sample.

I would imagine it adds more "credibility" to your findings, specially when doing power readings and OC with stability tests, mostly. I won't jump to quantify that, but it's always a plus to be as "neutral" as possible, right?

Cheers!
 


I'm sure some reports and leaked benchmarks are inaccurate, however everything I have seen all points to a huge leap forward for AMD and puts them in striking distance of high end Broadwell-E and Kaby Lake. One would think that after the horrible release of Bulldozer that AMD wouldn't want anything like that to happen again. If all these early benchmarks are horribly inaccurate you would think that AMD would try to set the record straight and say our processor is great but its not at Kaby Lake levels. The simple fact that they have only furthered the talk of how powerful their Ryzen processor is by releasing that they surpassed their goal of 40% IPC gain and actually hit 52% IPC gain leads me to believe that AMD is very confident in Ryzen and its performance and are quite comfortable with leaked benchmarks showing Ryzen beating Broadwell-E and very close to Kaby Lake.

Well, in very short order we will at least have benchmarks of "special" samples to compare, which at the very least will give us a very good indication of how retail samples will fare.
 


Pretty sure i remember refreshing toms page over and over again at 11:59pm eastern time until i saw bulldozer's review at 12am. Was so exited i skipped to the conclusion and basically cried lol
 
Most people seem satisfied with the pricing, which is good. Hope there isn't a "gotcha" hidden in there 😛
My final guess in the last thread was 600, then realizing my Canada tax I dropped to 550(US) so I'm pretty happy with how close I was, at least for the top 8c 16t
 


Not to brag but i'm happy i got the price right ha ha. Basically the only thing i did get right.
 


Gonna have to say yes ha ha, i basically read reviews from every single site i can find and watch all youtube reviews if i had to limit my choice of 3 sites it would be Tomshardware, Anandtech, Guru3d. I find that they use a wide range of CPU's during testing, same reason why i like techpowerup the most for GPU reviews.

Mainstream tech Youtubers i trust the most is Bitwit, Paulshardware, Jayztwocents

 


They only confirmed that they didn't receive such email. The rest is pure guessing, they always use terms as "it seems", "apparently received" and they even add a big "?" to their headline

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-is-trying-to-manipulate-amd-ryzen-launch.html
 


That makes sense. 2449 is a record.
 


From the link: "*Margin for error: High"

Myself consider Passmark a toy bench, and not representative of real workloads: Some subtest in the Passmark suite are simple loops that fit within 240KB. But if you want use it to estimate performance wait to margin of error was low. This will happen when several hundred of scores are submitted to the database.
 
CPCHardware confirmed me there is a problem with the IMC in RyZen and it affects gaming

https://mobile.twitter.com/CPCHardware/status/836346777267761155/actions

Check also the benches given here

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-3327589/amd-ryzen-megathread-faq-resources/page-8.html#19350306

Also it seems reviewers are confirming problems with overclocking

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5wkcbi/computerbasede_editor_hints_details_about_their/

For those that don't know which is the video that Computer base is talking about. It is a video taken at RyZen Tech Day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFYlP_3dC1U

Check around 19:10. When AMD tried to show how RyZen overclocks the system crashed on live. It crashed when the frequency got 4.1GHz. It was a watter cooled chip. You can see reviewers face, some even laugh.

We have to wait for reviews
 
Like i said i think Ryzen will be a poor overclocker at least to we get revisions i personally think almost all 329$ 1700 will OC to 4.0Ghz at least but still that is 25% lower then the 7700K but with twice the cores.

You can fix poor overclocker designs you can NOT fix poor IPC designs easily i will say do not worry about this.
 
Lol, that was a funny "oops" on stage.

I would imagine that is a retail sample they're trying to show there? If they were still using an Engy sample, then bad call on AMDs part. In any case, if 4.1Ghz is only achievable with water, AMD will need Zen+ to impress me. I do agree with you, jdwii on the "IPC" phrase, but they need a good start, so a bad OC'er is still going to be punished by enthusiasts. Remember Ivy and all the flak it got for being a poor OC'er out of the box.

Cheers!
 


CPU/Memory caching coming into play? Scores went up each run, which infers something is getting cached somewhere.
 
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