AMD - THE ROAD AHEAD

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I read In a A+ book that AMD Does a Huge Job Outta Less Power Especailly When DDR came out and Everyone know that Athlon had Double Pumped FSB before DDR even came out and Everyone knew that DDR and Athlons would be a great Pair because AMD was doing more Instruction per Clock and the DDR does More instruction perclock. But since AM2 come out FX-62 Might not be as helpless as every Intel thinks. Maybe DDR2-667 or the 800 Might give it the edge over Conroe Since It would be Doing Quad-pumping compared to RAM before DDR. 😀

Conroe is basically a FX-60 with a 4Mb Cache
 
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So 65nm was working in January'05? They NEVER showed a sample?

45nm is working now, and they showed a sample?

That's two years from fisrt tap to real production for 65nm, so it looks like we should see 45nm from AMD in '08. AMD has to do it, or else.
 
So 65nm was working in January'05? They NEVER showed a sample?

45nm is working now, and they showed a sample?

That's two years from fisrt tap to real production for 65nm, so it looks like we should see 45nm from AMD in '08. AMD has to do it, or else.
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They didn't show it because unlike other companies *hint hint*, they don't announce everytime they go to the bathroom.

When do you think Intel will have 45nm, huh? You think 2006? Yea okay. Maybe 2007? Right, you're smokin' the wrong stuff bud.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
Trusted Reviews has an interesting little article going on about AMD's upcoming plans
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Just like I said in your other thread just posted 9, AMD will have no chip shortages, hell yeah :twisted:

Yeah you can be sure they wont have any chip shortages at all. For that matter, they are likely to have warehouses full of 'em when everyone runs back to buying intel here in a few months.

That price list they posted is really sad. Intel's $500 chip will likely outperform AMD's $1200 chip by a significant margin when its available - possibly as soon as July. Sad really.

I guess the AM2 release is AMD's final attempt to put the sausage to their army of fanboys before they are forced to slash prices to compete with conroe. At that time they will likely give this segment of the market back to iintel and put the majority of their focus on the server market where they actually have a much higher chance of success in the coming quarters.
 
Trusted Reviews has an interesting little article going on about AMD's upcoming plans
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Just like I said in your other thread just posted 9, AMD will have no chip shortages, hell yeah :twisted:

Yeah you can be sure they wont have any chip shortages at all. For that matter, they are likely to have warehouses full of 'em when everyone runs back to buying intel here in a few months.

That price list they posted is really sad. Intel's $500 chip will likely outperform AMD's $1200 chip by a significant margin when its available - possibly as soon as July. Sad really.

What's sad is you. You believe hype, you listen to all the FUD's and bathroom-break announcements like it's gospel truth.

AMD won't have chip shortages, and they definately won't go out of business. Why? Because there are bigger things in this world that stop that, such as Governments (the lovely Gov's of Germany and the US of A) and the EU/JU not allowing Intel to monopolize the market, so if anybody DID try to buy AMD, it would be under extreme conditions and they wouldn't be allowed to stop advancement of the company. AMD will never die, and neither will Intel.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
So 65nm was working in January'05? They NEVER showed a sample?

45nm is working now, and they showed a sample?

That's two years from fisrt tap to real production for 65nm, so it looks like we should see 45nm from AMD in '08. AMD has to do it, or else.
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They didn't show it because unlike other companies *hint hint*, they don't announce everytime they go to the bathroom.

When do you think Intel will have 45nm, huh? You think 2006? Yea okay. Maybe 2007? Right, you're smokin' the wrong stuff bud.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

Well, that maybe true but at least Intel has shown a working 45nm part already. Where's AMD at these days?

Yeah, I know what your gonna say so save it. The one thing we've seen and can say is, Intel is clearly in a better position than AMD is. If AMD is so full of innovation, why aren't they leading? I'm not talking about performance here, i'm talking innovation. The guys from the AMD camp are not only worried about Intel biting back but are now struggling to make the switch to where Intel has been for some time now.

It's clearly a simple question and we all just need to give this sh!t a rest. I'm tired of reading about it over and over again. Yes, I know, I can go elsewhere but ..... anyway, nuff said, i'm tired ....
 
Ahh 3M I didn't touch a nerve now did I?

No, I do not believe that AMD is doomed by any means. They will continue to do quite well in the highly lucrative server market. The desktop on the other hand is going to be tough for them for the next 2 years at least (until K10).

I believe AMD will make it, but will be forced to sell at a significant discount to intels superior performing desktop products. Similar to the Athlon XP days.

Be realistic MMM if a Pentium M shoehorned into a 875 chipset mainboard using DDR1 can match or in some cases beat an FX 57 do you actually believe a conroe is not gonna be better?
 
Where's AMD at these days?
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- Obviously somebody didn't read that article....

Intel is clearly in a better position than AMD is. If AMD is so full of innovation, why aren't they leading? I'm not talking about performance here, i'm talking innovation.
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- Goes back to what I said fanboy, that AMD doesn't announce when they go to the bathroom...and obviously, that metaphor is too advanced for some people.

The guys from the AMD camp are not only worried about Intel biting back but are now struggling to make the switch to where Intel has been for some time now.
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- Uh.....what? I guess you know this because you spoke with all the Engineers and CEO's of the company, BTW, how is Jack in accounting?

I believe AMD will make it, but will be forced to sell at a significant discount to intels superior performing desktop products.
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- That one made me laugh.

Be realistic MMM if a Pentium M shoehorned into a 875 chipset mainboard using DDR1 can match or in some cases beat an FX 57 do you actually believe a conroe is not gonna be better?
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I was lying, THAT made me laugh.

I don't know anything about computers
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- Finally something you said that is right! 😀

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
Ok MMM apparantly you missed the article Tom's did awhile back on this. I was wrong in one respect though the comparason was to an Athlon FX 55. Regardless though - here is the start of the benches from that article.


Dothan over Netbust benchmarks


Oh and MMM it is ok to live in denial until conroe actually releases. We wont hold it against you.
 
Ok MMM apparantly you missed the article Tom's did awhile back on this. I was wrong in one respect though the comparason was to an Athlon FX 55. Regardless though - here is the start of the benches from that article.


Dothan over Netbust benchmarks


Oh and MMM it is ok to live in denial until conroe actually releases. We wont hold it against you.[/list]
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130nm FX-55 CLAWHAMMER......

Denial?? :roll:

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
130nm FX-55 CLAWHAMMER......

Denial?? :roll:
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130nm is irrelevent the point being it was consistently beaten by a yonah core that was clocked 40Mhz slower than it was.

2600 MHz FX 55
2560 MHz Pentium M dothan.

*gr8mikey bangs head against wall and realizes he might have greater success having a debate with said wall
 
The knucklehead is running off with AMD crap again, basing his facts from someone else’s instead of his own. :x Yes, Get a new keyboard! Conroe is going to rule you. You try that Excel* program to analyze some stock indicators on your porion? Chicken? Are you afraid of the truth? Did it embarrass you? 😳 :cry: :cry: :cry: Get real, prove it to yourself you whacko
 
Some of these folks are definitely gonna need to be put on suicide watch ahead of the conroe release. I just dont think they are gonna be able to handle it without some kind of long term therapy.

At the end of the day just remember that AMD and Intel are really the same.
They are merely giant corporations that want nothing more from you than your money!
 
I hope they all are digging their fox hole to hide in. Intel is not looking back this time. Leap ahead. They are going to turn on the turbo charger.
 
A foxhole? lol.....AMD is bigger now than they have ever been and if you think they've been sitting around with their thumbs up their asses for 4 years with no forward thinking development then you are grossly mistaken. The magic will happen again with socket M2 or AM3 or whatever the short-lived AM2's successor will be called and the great new's is for the early adopters of AM2 is that there will probably be a K8L DC chip for AM2. And also remember AMD can easily add mem controller's to the K8 design to scale the mem bandwidth. How many northbridges can Intel put on 1 mobo........
 
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