AMD vs. Intel: Battery Life Investigated

[JAYDEEJOHN]

He was from NY, grew up in housing projects of all things, very down to earth heheh

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

The funniest part was, my old gf was into movie makeup etc, did a few gigs, but she wasnt into star trek at all, so I garnered most of the attention at dinner heheh

 

[BadTrip]

the only thing i have ever agreed with jennyh is that Voyager is the best of the new Star Treks. Captain Janeway would kick both Picard and Sisco's asses.

 

[Onus]

True. Then Janeway and Kirk would have eyed each other for a moment, and she would have saluted and said "Reporting for duty, Sir!"

 

[BadTrip]

not quite sure about that.

puts on flameproof underwear.

 

[Onus]

Oh, but you can bet he would have respected her; no male chauvinist nonsense there...

 

[BadTrip]

lol, she isnt green so he would have been cool.

 

[Hellboy]

Hellboy that intel GMA is terrible and I'm sure you know it 😛

Ok you don't want to carry a spare battery around with your AMD...why not just use a better one instead? There is $80 of headroom there.

Somebody has $580 exactly to spend on a laptop, can you seriously suggest the intel is the best buy? It is only the best buy if you never, ever play games at all and have no intention of doing so in the future. Even then it's still dubious that it's actually worth the $80 more. What if your kids want to use it? Or somebody else who might want to play a game every so often?

Is that 10% or so better performance in what, excel really worth it? How often are you really gonna be watching a two hour dvd while mobile on a laptop like that anyway? Enough to justify the extra $80?

There are a lot of variables that can be brought into the equation. That's another really good reason why you'd take an 'all rounder' instead, and the AMD is an all-rounder.

But you dont get my point..

Intels integrated video chipset is a great feature for little extra cost which will run all business apps, low specification games and photographic editing software. Intel has never marketted it as a gaming card. What it is good at is power consumption at a whole and makes a better laptop chipset for that.

AMD / ATI appart from the graphic side has never really made a good low power consumption chipset for the mobile platform.

This is where Intel superseeds AMD no matter what you say for power consumption which means more to the business user.

Your opinion on your priority of playing quake 3 maxed out on a train is considerably of low importance which fits in the nice feature range.

Intels IGP is up to DVD but not quite Blueray playback.

Im know that Intel are working on this to adjust the balance, If I was Intel I would be set on knocking out the competition which it almost does on all levels. All because a lion eats a antelope doesnt mean it right. Its all about survival of the fittest. Of course there will be other antelopes but no antelope should mess with a lion with out getting bloody.


FACT - Intel makes the better chipsets - period, AMD makes better IGPs - period - but for how long.

remember AMD bought this technology when they took over ATI. AMD own chipsets were rubbish. Early ATI chipsets were rubbish.
AMD put ATIs video technology into a igp and got some where. Intel have never really made a decent video card until LRB.

But remember this Jenny - more intel igps are sold than any other video card so work that one out.

Also remember that laptops were never designed with games in mind in the first place, nor were pcs for that matter.

 

[amdfangirl]

Everyone, don't kill me but I use an Intel IGP because, performance isn't important to me, its the battery life and power consumption. (Yes, I did get an Atom)

Now you know we need Chickadee here as Intel fanbois so she'll proclaim Intel's IGP outclass AMD's flagship HD 4890...

 

[Hellboy]

Everyone, don't kill me but I use an Intel IGP because, performance isn't important to me, its the battery life and power consumption. (Yes, I did get an Atom)

Now you know we need Chickadee here as Intel fanbois so she'll proclaim Intel's IGP outclass AMD's flagship HD 4890...

Would you class me as a Intel fanboi..

All I want is energy efficiency over anything else - this is why core 2 duo was so much better than its predecessor

 

[amdfangirl]

Nah, probably not.

I liked the Core 2 Duo too... and the Athlon energy efficient lines too!

But then there's VIA

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

If thats the case, i7 is fail. No HT and certainly no turbo. Theyve got the highest power draw of any current chip.
So, with a i7 model, youd choose the AMD one?

 

[fazers_on_stun]

As Daniel would say to Jack
Plus, as my wife has mentioned, most of the alien women on the show have enough silicone between them to fill a swimming pool .
What?

LOL - well during the first 7 seasons, just about every alien planet SG-1 visited would have a bevy of women who would fulfill Hellboy's ideal of the female physique 😀. Usually scantily clad to boot. Well, maybe not the Nox planet - but that's the exception that makes the rule 😀

DS-9 only had Jadzia Dax, IIRC. Major Kira was cute, but was built more like Major Carter on SG-1. Hmm, wonder if there's a connection there ?? Obviously the silicone budget at Paramount Studios was severely constrained

 

[fazers_on_stun]

DS9 was so good because of the continuing storyline, especially the last couple of series.

It was kinda plagued by overacting, and too much ferengi. I recently watched the entire series again, and voyager too. If you'd asked me before watching both I'd have said DS9 was way better, but now it's pretty apparent that Voyager is a superior series.

You can't really rank them however as it's always going to be unfair on the older series I think.

The first 3 seasons of Voyager were pretty poor, IMO, although I enjoyed Picardo's EMH - emergency medical hologram - character, because of his sarcastic wit 😀. But after seeing the episode where Janeway & Paris devolve into some frog-like creatures, croaking forlornly in a swamp, I stopped watching for a while .

The last 2 seasons were good, where they managed to communicate with Starfleet and had to fight off the Borg. But 2 outta 7 is not a good entertainment ratio, when the other Trek series managed better. However I will grant you that the series conclusion was better in Voyager than in TNG .

IIRC TNG was the last series where they actually used ship models and specially-built camera platforms to follow a programmed path several times, for lighting & other effects. I think Voyager & DS-9 were all CG effects, but I could be wrong.

 

[fazers_on_stun]

I watched the original Star Trek, and read all the books too, but never really thought of myself as a Trekkie. TNG was unfortunately ruined for me by 'Q,' a character with no reason to exist, other than to introduce complications; reminiscent of Trelayne in the original. I generally liked DS9 and Voyager, but lost track of each of them after a few seasons.
Cattlecar Bonanza was campy, but just fine if that's what you expected when you sat down to watch it.
Battlestar Galactica (recent TV series) introduced way too much mystical BS, and I lost interest during the first season.
Space: Above and Beyond was a great series, that ended all too soon. I think it was rushed at the end, as it could have ended much better if there'd been another season.

"Cattlecar Bonanza" - LOL! At least Lorne Greene didn't ride a horse & carry a 6-shooter 😀. I wonder if Starbucks got its name from Lt. Starbuck?

"Q" was supposed to tie the beginning & end of TNG together, and although I like de Lancie as an actor, I hafta agree the character was a bit farfetched - too much suspension of disbelief required. His occasional appearances in some comedic episodes were funny - the one where the crew was suddenly placed Sherwood Forest as Robin Hood et al, comes to mind, with Troi accidently shooting Data with an arrow & Worf not wanting to be a Merry Man .

 

[archibael]

Intels IGP is up to DVD but not quite Blueray playback.

Hmmm... funny... we watched Blu-ray all last week on my friend's G45 system. With 7.1 LPCM audio, in fact. Looked good to me. 'Course, I wouldn't try to play Crysis on the thing, but that's not what he bought it for.

 

[amdfangirl]

Yeh, that's only with the top-end G45.

Only the X4500HD chip decodes all 3 major formats.

Pretty sweet for HTPCs.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Wonder what the sell/distribution %'s are for 4500 vs the others

 

[amdfangirl]

yeh, I reckon eh?

cool thing about AMD is that they sell IGPs of Blu-Rays for the same price as Intel's G41.

 

[archibael]

That's true. The G43 and under do lean heavily on the processor because they don't have HW acceleration. But still didn't have a problem decoding in software with an E6700.

 

[TechnologyCoordinator]

Major Kira was cute

I never really could get into her. Her hair was too.... butch?

 

[TechnologyCoordinator]

But 2 outta 7 is not a good entertainment ratio, when the other Trek series managed better.

LOL, too true.

 

[amdfangirl]

We had a topic, once upon a time.

 

[jimmysmitty]

TBH, I never watched the new BG on TV, but have it on DVD (have to queue up season 4.5 on Netflix). Also have the original on DVD, and have seen all the episodes. Pretty good effects for a '70s TV series.

I'm not a big fan of animated series - Dragonball Z comes to mind, where the heroes & villains seem to spend a lot of time grimacing at each other while shooting their mouths off, instead of actually kicking some butt . Saves a lot of money when all you have to animate is the mouth and eyebrows 😀...

Stargate SG-1 did undergo some cast changes - first Daniel Jackson takes off for a season after "ascending" to some higher existence, then comes back, then O'Neill gets promoted and written out except for cameos. However the cinematography & special effects were generally excellent - IIRC the series won a number of awards, despite being overly fond of long crane shots.

Occasionally they would cheap out & do some clip episode however, which I hate just enough to squirm through it instead of skipping to the next episode. Richard Dean Anderson however makes even the clip shows bearable. Cracks me up everytime he sticks his face in the MALF video camera to speak with SG Command. Plus, as my wife has mentioned, most of the alien women on the show have enough silicone between them to fill a swimming pool 😀.

DBZ itself was good for its time but newer shows outclass it by far. Trigun, Coboy Bebop, Gundamn Wing (Especially Endless Waltz WING 0 FTW!!!). In preference, I like Naruto much more because it has a story, great fighting scenes and Kakashi just kicks ass (and I mean the Japanese ones with English subs).

And SG-1 was never the same without McGyver. Even his son didn't count.

I think DS9 was superior because of the whole arching dominion story plot. And yes, WAYYYY too many Ferengi stories. I still don't think VOY was better, it was just one random episode after another. VOY had too many holo-stories and too many Borg stories.

I loved the plot behind DS9. Can't say I am truly sure what happened to Cisco at the end.

As for VOY, the randomness makes sense if you are stranded and trying to get home. They had one good story arc, where they went into the space of the waring worlds and ended up f**ed due to time rifts. Then of course Janeway just rams the ship into the main guy and resets time itself.

And the Borg make sense since thats their main part of the galaxy they "assimalate" in. They just want to expand and make friends.

True. Then Janeway and Kirk would have eyed each other for a moment, and she would have saluted and said "Reporting for duty, Sir!"

Janeway would rip her clothes off, if we mean original Kirk. He had a way to charm the ladies. plus he kicked so much ass.

If thats the case, i7 is fail. No HT and certainly no turbo. Theyve got the highest power draw of any current chip.
So, with a i7 model, youd choose the AMD one?

With a i7 laptop? hell yea I would choose the AMD one. I think the companies doing the i7 laptops with the desktop chips are just idiots. Can't really keep it unplugged very long. I would rather wait for the true nehalem based laptop CPU.

Desktop, I don't care how much power it takes as long as my house dowsn't lose power when I turn it on.

I never really could get into her. Her hair was too.... butch?

I agree. I say 7 of 9. Woot for Jeri Ryan.

 

[Hellboy]

Yeh, that's only with the top-end G45.

Only the X4500HD chip decodes all 3 major formats.

Pretty sweet for HTPCs.

never needed to use a G45.
Its a shame they havent done a version of this for laptops yet.

Anyway when you get to that sort of board I would always us a separate graphic card.