Question Are my Ryzen 7 7800x3d temps concerning?

[Stephano415]

I just recently built my first pc, and I've been loving it so far, I am just slightly worried about the temps. I am using a Ryzen 7 7800x3d with a Corsair H150i 360 mm aio, along with several other corsair fans. When I idle, the temps fluctuate around 40-60c, and when I am gaming they sit at mid 70s-low 80s. I tried doing a cinebench stress test and the temps stayed at 89-91 almost the entire time. Are these normal temps for a liquid cooled cpu with 10 fans in the case?

I would also like to note that I replaced the stock thermal paste with Arctic MX-4, and made sure to securely tighten down the aio block. However, the bottom-right finger screw doesn't seem to tighten all the way, because when I tighten it the screw just slightly tightens and loosens again, and can spin forever. I don't know if this would cause anything, as the other screws are fastened very securely.

I could just be too in my own head about all of this, but it's very distracting when I am playing a game and it sounds like a rocket is about to take off next to me. Any help or advice is much appreciated!

Also, here are all my PC Parts in this build, just in case there is relevancy:

CPU-Ryzen 7 7800x3d
GPU-Gigabyte RTX 4070 TI Super
MOTHERBOARD- Gigabyte x870 Aorus Elite Ice
PSU-Corsair RM 850x Shift
RAM-Corsair Vengeance 32gb
SSD-Samsung 990 Pro 2tb
AIO-Corsair H150i 360mm with 3x QX 120 fans
FANS-6 Corsair QX 120 fans, 1 Corsair LX 120 fan
CASE-Corsair 3500x

 

[Lutfij]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

How are the case airflow and AIO fans setup in your case? An image of your case with it's fan setup would help in case you're confused on the orientation of the fans.

 

[Stephano415]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

How are the case airflow and AIO fans setup in your case? An image of your case with it's fan setup would help in case you're confused on the orientation of the fans.

Here is a photo of my pc, with a very professional drawing of my fan orientation!

https://imgur.com/a/YHKc1rT

 

[Stephano415]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

How are the case airflow and AIO fans setup in your case? An image of your case with it's fan setup would help in case you're confused on the orientation of the fans.

Just wanna note I'm dumb, the three side fans are intake not exhaust like my drawing implies. Everything else is correct though.

 

[ilukey77]

im running a 420mm arctic freezer iii and i get 80c in cinebench r23 allcore

the 7800x3d like to boost so i would say under extreme all core work loads 91 is fine

 

[JayGau]

Looks a little hot but not alarming. But this loose screw thing doesn't sound good to me. If it doesn't tight at all you might have a not so good contact on this corner. In the best case scenario, the pressure from the other screws have pushed the thermal paste far enough to fill any gaps on this corner and the cooler works pretty much normally. In the worst case, there is a gap that could contain air pockets and that's really not good (air trapped in pockets is likely to overheat and can damage the CPU). I would try to take a deeper look at it to figure out why the screw can't get tighten. It's probably the stud that is not screwed properly to the motherboard's plate.

Also, I see you have a Corsair H150i so you should have access to the liquid temperature. How warm doest it get? A too hot liquid generally means a bad airflow and a too low temperature could mean that the contact between the CPU and the cooler block is not good. A good liquid temp should top at about 8-10c above room temperature during gaming. I have a 9800X3D and a Corsair H150i. During gaming my liquid temp is constantly at 9c above room temperature and the CPU barely reaches 60c. But the 7800X3D might get hotter since the extra cache die is on the top, unlike the 9800X3D.

 

[Misgar]

If it doesn't tight at all you might have a not so good contact on this corner.

I'd be prepared to bet good money that pressure isn't being applied evenly across the CPU's IHS.

I've seen test reviews where people perform multiple tests showing the pressure distribution over the IHS. They pay particular attention to the spots where the chips are located under the IHS.

If one mounting screw is loose, no amount of TIM is going to make up for low pressure in one corner. If I couldn't fix the stripped thread in the mounting frame assembly, I'd chuck it in the bin and buy a new mounting frame and fixings or get a complete new cooler.

 

[Stephano415]

Looks a little hot but not alarming. But this loose screw thing doesn't sound good to me. If it doesn't tight at all you might have a not so good contact on this corner. In the best case scenario, the pressure from the other screws have pushed the thermal paste far enough to fill any gaps on this corner and the cooler works pretty much normally. In the worst case, there is a gap that could contain air pockets and that's really not good (air trapped in pockets is likely to overheat and can damage the CPU). I would try to take a deeper look at it to figure out why the screw can't get tighten. It's probably the stud that is not screwed properly to the motherboard's plate.

Also, I see you have a Corsair H150i so you should have access to the liquid temperature. How warm doest it get? A too hot liquid generally means a bad airflow and a too low temperature could mean that the contact between the CPU and the cooler block is not good. A good liquid temp should top at about 8-10c above room temperature during gaming. I have a 9800X3D and a Corsair H150i. During gaming my liquid temp is constantly at 9c above room temperature and the CPU barely reaches 60c. But the 7800X3D might get hotter since the extra cache die is on the top, unlike the 9800X3D.

Thanks for the reply, I didn't realize I could check the liquid temperature. I looked at it in my software and with just a few tabs open in chrome and not much else going on it is sitting at 29.60 degrees.

 

[Stephano415]

I'd be prepared to bet good money that pressure isn't being applied evenly across the CPU's IHS.

I've seen test reviews where people perform multiple tests showing the pressure distribution over the IHS. They pay particular attention to the spots where the chips are located under the IHS.

If one mounting screw is loose, no amount of TIM is going to make up for low pressure in one corner. If I couldn't fix the stripped thread in the mounting frame assembly, I'd chuck it in the bin and buy a new mounting frame and fixings or get a complete new cooler.

Thanks for the advice, since it seems like this would be the most simple fix I am going to open it up later today and see if maybe I cross threaded the screw and hopefully its not anything too major.

I will say since I posted this thread I played a couple of hours of RDR 2 at max settings /1440p and the temp maxed out at 72, with it mostly staying in the mid to upper 60s. Promising maybe? My fans were crazy loud though.

 

[JayGau]

Thanks for the reply, I didn't realize I could check the liquid temperature. I looked at it in my software and with just a few tabs open in chrome and not much else going on it is sitting at 29.60 degrees.

And what is your room temperature? The important metric here is delta-T (liquid temp - room temp). A 4 or 5° above room temp is normal when doing light tasks like browsing. But you need to monitor it when you do heavy stuff like gaming (and not just for 2 minutes, need to know hot it gets when stabilized).

And you should really do something about this screw. Check if the the stud is well attached to the board. If it is, try to tight the screw without the cooler on. Try to switch with another screw to see if the problem is with the stud or the screw thread. I would personally not let my computer like this. All the screws should be fully tighten.

 

[JayGau]

If I couldn't fix the stripped thread in the mounting frame assembly, I'd chuck it in the bin and buy a new mounting frame and fixings or get a complete new cooler.

The way AM5 cooler brackets work, the problem is certainly not related to the cooler itself. The screws attach to the studs through holes in the mounting brackets (there's no threads on the brackets, only open holes). A screw that doesn't tight is either a problem with the screw, or the stud. And those are easy to find online like on Amazon or ebay for about 10$.

 

[Stephano415]

Just to update you guys, I actually went ahead and took off the aio pump and noticed the thermal paste was only making contact on the 2/3 of the cpu, leaving a large part of it untouched. I went ahead and cleaned off that thermal paste and reapplied it so it would contact more of the cpu, and was also able to get all of the screws to stay down more securely as well! Now my idle/browsing temps are around 36-44c, and RDR 2 now gets around 55-64c! I have yet to do cinebench with it again, but so far so good!

 

[JayGau]

Just to update you guys, I actually went ahead and took off the aio pump and noticed the thermal paste was only making contact on the 2/3 of the cpu, leaving a large part of it untouched. I went ahead and cleaned off that thermal paste and reapplied it so it would contact more of the cpu, and was also able to get all of the screws to stay down more securely as well! Now my idle/browsing temps are around 36-44c, and RDR 2 now gets around 55-64c! I have yet to do cinebench with it again, but so far so good!

Those temps look very good to me. Cinebench will certainly make it go much hotter and it's normal. The paste not covering 1/3 of the CPU makes sense considering the loose screw. Glad you managed to fix that and it's likely why you have good temps now.

 

[Stephano415]

Those temps look very good to me. Cinebench will certainly make it go much hotter and it's normal. The paste not covering 1/3 of the CPU makes sense considering the loose screw. Glad you managed to fix that and it's likely why you have good temps now.

Thanks for all of your advice, I really appreciate your help!!!