ATi have just been caught cheating.

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LOL! Now, I don't want to encourage Willamette but HOLY $HIT!... That was funny.

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To be fair I will criticise Gen as I would anyone else.

The title of the thread should be "ATi HAS just been caught cheating."

"ATi" represents a single entity.

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I never bashed you, I never even disagreed with you, but since you got me started: It's an unfair advantage, even if you can't see the difference. Anyway, I remember when nVidia was only rendering the parts you saw on the screen in the 03 benchmark, which you WOULD see if you spun around quickly, something that DOES happen in games.

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I've read a few comment's in this thread stating that what's going on is 'OK'...as long as you cant see the difference. The problem here, is that <b>you can</b> see a difference during game play....at least that's what the people who possess the card's are claiming.

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oh...maybe in action it make a difference. I cant say anything on that, i did not see it in action.

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typical reaction to fanboys
remember the FX issue?
this is the same thing
the fanboy's perfect company had a huge flaw... they dont want to accept it

so its funny how most of the people here that say they're not biase are going
"ATi didn't cheat! it's ATi!"
when nVidia cheated it was like
"OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!! THEY'RE THE DEVIL!! nVIDIA SUX!!!"


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I doubt that in this situation, it's probably only cheating in places you'll never notice.

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Ok someone wanna explain whats going on? I see an article claiming BOTH NV and ATI's new cards have slower performance when forced to do one type of AF - and its just ATI?

TBH this is being blown way out of proportion. How come no reviewers noticed this apparently obvious cheat while they tested extensively?

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the thing ur talking about is just ATi

nVidia got caught cheating in farcry. Which i still dont understand. wasn't it something about forcing the game to run using the PS 1.1/2.0 path, but doesn't 6800 Ultra run using the PS 3.0 path???

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Ok i am leaving this thread...if i cant give my opinion then what is the point.

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Your opinion is wrong.....

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It's simple. The new cards dont give you trilinear when you ask for it, they give you brilinear. If you use a "colored mip map" command in UT2K3/4 or Serious Sam, to check the filtering quality, the driver detects what your doing, and starts giving you true trilinear(and the performance drops 20%)
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no one is telling you to shut up, we're just telling you that ur are wrong!

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omfg, i wont change my opinion until i see a IQ difference.

I do agree that they should let you choose

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Why dont you guy's pm eachother or something.

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I am not arguing...just saying my opinion.
I am no ati fanboy
I am no nvidia fanboy.....i just take whatever give me what i want.

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Actually there was something similar to this from DH, although alot of people have come down on the article because of some inconsistencies. Yet, there are still the same issues. That's why I'm waiting for more info.

In no means do I wish to take away from the fact that this does not look good for ATI on the surface. That's why I"d like more info. I haven't had the chance to look into this further at work (oh my, actually working at work!?! :evil: )

Here's DH's article,

<A HREF="http://www.driverheaven.net/articles/driverIQ/" target="_new">http://www.driverheaven.net/articles/driverIQ/</A>

And here's the Far Cry issue<b>s</b>;

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<A HREF="http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/far_cry_nvidia/" target="_new">http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/far_cry_nvidia/</A>

<A HREF="http://www.driverheaven.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44253" target="_new">http://www.driverheaven.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44253</A>

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Just FYI since you mention it. Remember that there is no ground up SM/PS 3.0 path in FarCry, and that they only added some PS3.0 features/effects as an add on for nV's benifit (or so it appears);

<A HREF="http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=15502" target="_new">http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=15502</A>


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It is snorkius' opinion that your opinion is wrong.

Now, either his opinion is correct that your opinion is wrong, or because opinions can't be wrong in your mind, his opinion that your opinion is wrong is itself incorrect, thus creating a black hole of logic. :tongue:

All I know is I don't agree with your opinion, and I believe that the elements with which you are establishing your opinion aren't worthy in MY opinion. :evil:

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wow im baffled now.


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he he, yea thats me all over...

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many thanks

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