burning in

[TeeTewl]

I want to do this right...to burn in my new 2700amd mobile. Do I need to be on line to use Sis soft Sandra to burn in my new cpu and A7N8X-E deluxe? Is there any other burn in tool you reccommend. I was trying to keep this new rig off line. Using it for gaming and Photoshop applications.

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[Ned_Flanders]

run calculator and do some REALLY hard sums, such at 12-11

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[TeeTewl]

Ned, are you teasing an old guy who's in need of help? What did I do to pizz you off this time?

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[Ned_Flanders]

lol, type 9999999999999999999999999 and n! in scientific mode of the calculaor. I'm right!

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[ChipDeath]

You can happily be off-line, although you'll need to get Sandra on there somehow .

I usually use Sandra's Burn-in (looping), 3dMark2001 (looping) and winamp (with a huge playlist). Leave them all running at once for a few hours and if it survives that,it should be fine! Plus it's still providing a little entertainment (music), and if the music stops you know it's probably crashed, so you don't have to keep an eye on it & can read a book or something.

Prime95 does put more stress on the CPU than sandra, so maybe run that too?

And I hope you're planning to OC that mobile... Seems a waste otherwise...

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[TeeTewl]

Yes O' Cing was what I had in mind. Wanted to do this step by step with THG helping...Will definetly try your ideas. Thanx

Gort, Klaatu nicto barada...Patricia Neal

 

[xeenrecoil]

TeeTewl;

From what i know about electronic components there is no such thing as burning in, from a technical standpoint, all you are doing during those test is checking to see if the system will be stable under absolute max load. The term burning in is a misappropriation. I am SURE there is someone who will dissagree with me but thats half the fun

 

[SidVicious]

For a thorough CPU burn in, it does'nt get any better than <A HREF="http://www.mersenne.org" target="_new">Prime95</A>.

I have'nt seen any app or program that can work a CPU to that level, as an added benefit, Prime95 will let you know of any mathematical aberrations caused by hardware failure.

I run it 24 hours a day as an early warning system for my overclock, as long as Prime95 keep running without fault, I know that nothing short of a catastrophic accident or software bug can crash my computer.





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[jihiggs]

technicaly running a cpu at max is good for the "curring", if there is such a thing, of the thermal compound. its more of an issue with the wax stuff. do they even use that anymore?

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[skinnyjoint]

so is the purpose of this to check stability or to sorta break in new parts im kinda confused. when should you be buning in so to speak. chg a hsf for example would you want to then?

 

[endyen]

Sure, I'll disagree with you. From experience, I can say that a never used chip will not OC as well as one that has been used for a while. Try it yourself, next time you get a new chip.
There is some basis to believe that heat will allow for some micro-transmigration of conductive particles in ICs. The net effect of this would be minimal.
Where the most advantage comes is in copper interconnects, bothe on chip, and on mobo. The "patina" that develops with heat is important to conductivity in a DC environment. Since hole flow in DC is more active on the outside layers of the conductor, and a good "patina" has been shown to enhance this conductivity in DC machines, it seems realistic to believe that the conductors in a computer would similarly benefit. It seems reasonable to believe that the enhanced conductivity would yield a higher potential speed, by preventing communication errors.

 

[Mr5oh]

technicaly running a cpu at max is good for the "curring", if there is such a thing, of the thermal compound.

Actually if you visit the ArcticSilver website, they say their thermal compound needs many cycles of hot and cold (on and off cycles) to reach full potential. Meaning leaving it one, really doesn't help the thermal compound.

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[jihiggs]

i was mostly refering to the wax stuff. btw, artic silver says a lot of things on their website...

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[TeeTewl]

Okay I used Sandra and did 20 reps is this enough? My 2700 AMD Mobile shows as a 1002...what do I need to do to make it at least show 2000 I know this is newbie stuff but this is my first OC and I want to NOT burn something up

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[ChipDeath]

20 reps is fine when you're just tweaking around, but a longer run would be recommended to check a higher OC when you're 'happy' with it, so to speak.

What do you mean by it showing as 1002? is that in the BIOS, in Sandra, what?

You should be able to run that mobile at 200x11, with a Vcore of 1.6V (or possibly less), as a starting point (XP3200+ speed). That would save you some time tweaking - it shouldn't have any problems with that speed.

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[TeeTewl]

in the "System Infomation" in the acessories section...it says(x86Family 6 model 10 Stepping 0 Authentic AMD ~1002mhz)

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[ChipDeath]

Interesting... What BIOS settings have you got it set at, and what does it say at boot (assuming It'll probably say something like "Athlon XP XXXXMhz" on the POST screen).

If bootup says somewhere over 2Ghz, then it's just Sandra being stupid/confused.

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[TeeTewl]

it says 1400 on that screen...

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[ChipDeath]

odd. What have you got it set to in BIOS?

you should be able to set a bus speed of 200 and a multiplier of 10x or 11x quite safely with a mobile XP. Make sure your RAM is set to 200Mhz also (might be shown as a ratio or percentage - just leave as 1:1 or 100% if so)

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