Die-Shot: Next-Gen 8-Core AMD Orochi Bulldozer

[WR2]

Nice! But where is the Hi-Def version of that shot?
Be sure to share any others that you guys run across!

 

[tmc]

The upgrade cycle for consumers isn't what it used to be.. expect mass market adoption to be 12-18 months after release date (assuming the price isn't way out of line with the mass market). Next to consider is the socket... if it's AM3 or (chuckle) AM3+... (think LTE for wireless) the backward compatabilty will be a FTW compared with Intel's one size per budget.. tactic. Amd seems to want to be this kill with kompatability mantra.. a thousand pin-pricks of compatability to slay the Intel dragon. Alot also rides on price/performane which amd outside of video cards hasn't proven it'self in the 4 core arena until this last 1xxx series of 6 core chips-- but comparisons in performance to 4 core "I" series puts us back into that zone which pitted mhz vs actual performance. In the "back in the day" a lower mhz meant higher perforamnce in amd vs intel. Now its MORE cores of AMD's chips to equate to what intel does with it's cores.. 6 cores equating to 4 core chips, etc. I'm brushing a broad picture here and things dont' Exactly align but you (should) get the point I'm trying to make here.. if you have any sense of the intel vs amd back & forth history..

 

[the_wolf88]

Nice !

Can't wait to put my hands on these !

 

[elbert]

I really don't like the ever growing number of cores with only the core having a slight tweak in performance. Give me a dual core with 2 to 3X performance per core on 45nm and make it a quad on 32nm. Granted XP and DX9 holds back performance on quad ore greater core CPU's but the overhead of adding more core is becoming a big factor. This is why I like Fusion. As Fusion evolves the CPU core performance will scale with how much FP performance can be utilized from the GPU.

 

[JOSHSKORN]

:::yawn::: Wake me up when we NEED 8 cores.

 

[dEAne]

It's really quite very different.

 

[eddieroolz]

Ooooh damn 8 cores!

 

[dante01010]

Hope this thing blows core i7 intel processors

 

[raiyus13]

yeah, it will completely destroy the i7's, and that's massive.

 

[jdragyn]

[citation][nom]JOSHSKORN[/nom]:::yawn::: Wake me up when we NEED 8 cores.[/citation]
We need 1 core for the OS to run, 1 core for the AV and all the other background programs installed, 2-3 cores for the game we are running, and the other 3-4 cores to handle the malware installed when mom downloads this nifty screen saver or font... now we'll never notice that our computer is part of a botnet. Yay! Oh, wait... why is my FiOS only running at 80KBps?!

 

[Tamz_msc]

This is strange - the upper cores(or whatever that is) rare bigger than the smaller ones.

 

[beayn]

[citation][nom]tony singh[/nom]So much new hardware coming nowadays...when will the software mature? Run winzip on it & its 7 cores will remain dormant, whats the use without proper software..[/citation]

That's why you use WinRar. It will use more cores, at least for compressing high amounts of data. Decompressing doesn't take as much processing power.

Also, I have many programs that use the cores. A few games as well, but mainly it's great for Canopus Procoder encoding videos. Even my quad core at the moment takes too long at 100% x4 cpu usage.

I think Photoshop uses them too.

 

[beayn]

[citation][nom]tmc[/nom]The upgrade cycle for consumers isn't what it used to be.. expect mass market adoption to be 12-18 months after release date (assuming the price isn't way out of line with the mass market).[/citation]

This is because of Walmart's $499 desktop selling like hotcakes to anyone and everyone who thinks it's a great deal.

Little do they know it comes with a discontinued single core Sempron CPU, discontinued 320gb hard drive, slow-ass DDR-667 memory modules and discontinued motherboard chipset. Oh, and don't forget it also comes with three 1gb memory modules, eliminating dual channel configuration.

I can't build the same PC for my customers because of all the discontinued crap in them. I can build a faster one with higher capacities and higher quality parts but as soon as I throw in Windows, a monitor, speakers, keyboard & mouse, the price jumps too much above $499 and whoever I'm selling it to still thinks Walmart is the better deal.

I think the OEMs get Windows for like $30 or something? That's where the biggest hit is for the little guy like me.

So yeah, thank Walmart for late mainstream acceptance of new hardware.

 

[one-shot]

[citation][nom]back_by_demand[/nom]Will it? There are no real Sandybridge benchmarks yet either.You say Bulldozer is designed to compete with what they already have, if it turns out to be better than Sandybridge will you eat humble pie?I have a Core i7 and I love it, but next time I upgrade my money goes to the current performance king, if that is AMD then I will buy it in a heartbeat.[/citation]

There are not Sandy Bridge benchmarks you say? I'm not sure why you say that because there actually are. Don't claim something if you don't really know.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3871/the-sandy-bridge-preview-three-wins-in-a-row

 

[mayne92]

[citation][nom]tsnorquist[/nom]I've been waiting to upgrade my main desktop computer since late 2006. I think 2011 is going to be a heck of an upgrade year![/citation]
Same here!

 

[mayne92]

[citation][nom]beayn[/nom]This is because of Walmart's $499 desktop selling like hotcakes to anyone and everyone who thinks it's a great deal. Little do they know it comes with a discontinued single core Sempron CPU, discontinued 320gb hard drive, slow-ass DDR-667 memory modules and discontinued motherboard chipset. Oh, and don't forget it also comes with three 1gb memory modules, eliminating dual channel configuration.I can't build the same PC for my customers because of all the discontinued crap in them. I can build a faster one with higher capacities and higher quality parts but as soon as I throw in Windows, a monitor, speakers, keyboard & mouse, the price jumps too much above $499 and whoever I'm selling it to still thinks Walmart is the better deal.I think the OEMs get Windows for like $30 or something? That's where the biggest hit is for the little guy like me.So yeah, thank Walmart for late mainstream acceptance of new hardware.[/citation]
Yeah, I remember laughing at those who thought that a really cheap computer is such an AWESOME deal! You get what you pay for...
It's funny though when my grandmother's e-machine motherboard went and it was to cost her $110 bucks for another one (they send me the motherboard). This was 2 years ago with the original DDR 667 architecture. Motherboard replacement was almost cost of the whole machine itself! I built her her next computer fyi

 

[Guest]

When are software developers going to catch up with all these beautiful cores?

 

[Camikazi]

[citation][nom]madeux[/nom]I hardly think Intel is looking to copy anything from AMD at this point. Why would they want to step backward like that?[/citation]
Cause AMD has one upped them more then once before, it can happen again, should never completely write off the underdog.

 

[WarraWarra]

AM3 then fine by me, new socket then no go for me.

Any idea about a decent new north bridge chip to support this thing or is the old / current one still sufficient ?

 

[back_by_demand]

[citation][nom]one-shot[/nom]There are not Sandy Bridge benchmarks you say? I'm not sure why you say that because there actually are. Don't claim something if you don't really know.http://www.anandtech.com/show/3871 [...] s-in-a-row[/citation]
I'm not sure about anyone else, but those are test samples and not available till Q1 2011, I think i'll reserve judgement till they are actually on sale, seeing as how we are going to compare them with the above 8-core AMD items.

 

[heydonald]

I can't wait for this to come out so I can pick up a 1090t for 200 bucks.

 

[renixis_infinity]

Wow 😱 8 cores

This will be awesome if this can handle photoshop processing, video conversion/processing and gaming at the same time without breaking a a sweat. I'll be glad to get one or rather, should I get a 1090T 😀

If this can match up that of Intel's i7 980X or just the i7 975X that'll be great
or even if this is 5% to 10% slower, it would still be awesome
It will be greater if Intel would release their new processors at the same time
More new models, old model price drops 😉

can't wait for the benchmarks

 

[asus x48]

Thank you but no thank you i dont need it.see you in 2014 for software and hd/ssd's to catch up.

 

[JimmiG]

I'm taking nothing for granted. The original Phenom was supposed to launch at around 3 GHz and beat the crap out of Core 2 CPUs (we were hearing everything up to 25% faster per clock). Instead we got the broken Phenom 9600 at 2.3 GHz. Nowadays the Phenom II is a pretty decent budget CPU, but it took them too long to get there.

 

[welshmousepk]

[citation][nom]tony singh[/nom]So much new hardware coming nowadays...when will the software mature? Run winzip on it & its 7 cores will remain dormant, whats the use without proper software..[/citation]

who on earth uses winzip any more?