if this is accurate than what i've seen in userbench is wrong?
Userbenchmark is Intel biased and do not compare AMD and Intel CPUs there. Since if you do, Intel CPUs are favored way too much, while AMD CPUs are downplayed.
But Userbenchmark is still good when comparing Intel vs Intel, or AMD vs AMD. And same goes for their GPU, SSD, RAM and HDD comparisons. Only Intel vs AMD CPU comparison is biased. Hence why i linked the CPU comparison from different site.
So can you just do me one last favor and tell me your opinion on these a 1-10 rating or even a "yes" "no" go or don't go for it will do. I don't wanna take more of your time.
While you already bought the PC, i'll still give my opinions on the 4 additional ones you listed, since maybe there is someone else who looks at those builds and decides to maybe buy them (since TH forums is public forums).
1.
https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m25098300630
my doubts with this is that it only has one ram stick idk if this is what is compatible with or im just getting bs, 450w doesn't seem sufficient enough power for this and is i3 line even if a 10th gen decent for gaming in 2024? talked em down to $395 for it.
GPU - listing says it has Radeon RX 7600 XT in there, but picture does not match the GPU in the listing.
Gigabyte RX 7600 XT looks like so:
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/gigabyte-rx-7600-xt-gaming-oc.b11482
While what is seen on the picture, is Gigabyte RX 7600. Looking like so and matching pics on listing:
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/gigabyte-rx-7600-gaming-oc.b11212
So, seller lies about GPU.
CPU cooler - Waste of money since i3-10100F came with Intel stock CPU cooler. And that weak CPU does not need better CPU cooler. Better CPU cooler there is mainly for eyecandy.
CPU - i3-10100F was weak 4 years ago, when it launched. Today, it is even worse. Only good for office/ web browsing. But for gaming, it won't be sufficient.
MoBo - Not said in listing, but based on image, it has AsRock B560M-HDV board in it. B560 chipset isn't great (e.g like Z570) but isn't bad either (e.g like H510). It's mediocre chipset, good enough for most people.
MoBo specs:
https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/B560M-HDV R3.0/index.us.asp
But MoBo having only 2 RAM slots, makes RAM upgrade difficult.
RAM - 1x stick of unknown DDR4. Not said in listing anything about it. Capacity or frequency. Nada. But based on images, it is Patriot Viper Elite DDR4 3200 Mhz RAM. And that RAM was sold either as 2x 4GB set or 2x 8GB set. But since build has only one stick of it, it could very well be 1x 4GB stick in there.
Here's how the RAM looks like when it was sold:
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/DwRFf7,vRQRsY/
PSU - Some Gigabyte 450W 80+ Bronze unit. 0 word about what the PSU model is. But based on that info, it only can be Gigabyte P450B, since that is only Gigabyte unit that is 450W and 80+ Bronze. This is a low quality PSU, borderline crap quality.
Here's how the PSU looks like:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LZ...80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-gp-p450b
All-in-all, it is an office PC. Not even worth to buy it as gaming PC and upgrade it to gaming PC. Since it needs new: RAM, PSU, CPU. 100 bucks for it, tops 150 bucks.
Listing says that price isn't negotiable, but somehow, price has dropped 100 bucks from the time it was initially listed. Still ~430 bucks is way too much for it.
2.
https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m93667038103/?ref=search_results
Seems decent i just don't know what bad im looking for here. i7 is already a good cpu for all ik even if its 8th but idk about that psu tho.
GPU - It does NOT have RTX 2080 in there. Pic clearly tells that GeForce GTX GPU is in there, and not RTX.
After researching what MoBo is in there, it turns out that this PC is prebuilt. It is HP Omen 875 Desktop and GPU in there is GTX 1060 3GB.
Specs:
https://cravingpcs.com/products/hp-...-wifi-bluetooth-windows-10-professional-64bit
HP Omen 875 was sold with RTX 2080 as well, but if you look the pics of the listing and compare it to the pics of HP Omen 875 with GTX 1060 3GB in it, you'll see that the GPUs wil match.
So, this seller also lies about GPU and big time.
PSU in prebuilt PCs is usually low quality and in this case, it has HP own branding on it. With this, it is impossible to tell what the PSU actually is.
100 bucks for that prebuilt would be tops. At current day, GTX 1060 can push ~40 FPS on 1080p, but this isn't considered as gaming PC. Light games work on it just fine, but not the latest AAA games. GTX 1060 came in 2 variants, 3GB VRAM and 6GB VRAM. But the specs i found, says it has 3GB VRAM version of GTX 1060 in it. So, any game that needs 4GB of VRAM, will not work on it.
GPU - RTX 3050 is weak and not for proper gaming. It can do 1080p with ~55 FPS tops. But for more enjoyable experience, in-game graphical settings must be lowered. It is good for light gaming, especially since it's paired with Core i3. Also, good for office PC.
PSU - No word about make and model. But knowing what PSU is in there, is very important. This PC is another prebuilt, by iBuyPower. And PSUs in prebuilts are usually low quality.
SSD - Some random 500 GB M.2 drive. I see green PCB on M.2 drive, so it most likely is some very cheap, low end drive.
~200 bucks would be decent for it.
4.
https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m33868244659/ this ones def good but I think its over priced or maybe its just me
This is actually the one that lies the most.
Listing description says they upgraded to RTX 4080, but RTX 4080 isn't nowhere to be seen. Also, GPU upgrade doesn't require completely new PC. But based on the images, they have at least 2 desktop PCs.
1st image shows a unicorn puke build with Asus Rog Strix RTX 3090 GPU in there. 2nd and 3rd images show EVGA RTX 3080 GPU marketing pictures and 4th pic shows plenty of hardware retail boxes. I see two GPUs: EVGA RTX 3080, Asus RTX 3090, two AIOs and one air cooler.
Here, i think that listing
only sells the EVGA RTX 3080 GPU. 500 bucks for RTX 3080 is a lot, since that GPU used goes for ~350.
And other than ebay or amazon do you have any other website where I can find more decent deals? second hands fine.
For 2nd hand, Ebay is main source. Craigslist and Facebook Marketplace are other two. Though, i deal with brand new components since used items are sold "as is", without warranty and they may not even work. So, brand new is better, since it comes with warranty and price is usually fixed. But used prices fluctuate wildly.
Oh, my rule of thumb is, used price is 50% of brand new price, regardless the hardware. Because used hardware doesn't come with a warranty and one has to take a risk buying used.
Regarding GPU prices, you can look this site, that tracks the accurate pricing of GPUs,
e.g RTX 3080 pricing:
https://bestvaluegpu.com/history/new-and-used-rtx-3080-price-history-and-specs/
And from here, you can see GPU hierarchy, to see how GPUs fare against each other,
article:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html
I have really just been taking the words of sellers being honest
If you trust seller, you can get scammed, easily. Better to ask 3rd opinion from the one who isn't biased. E.g like here in the forums. I'm not affiliated with you or any of the sellers, so, i say things how they are. Be it good or bad.
But sellers usually try to up the price, to get most for their old hardware. And for a person who doesn't know the specs of the hardware or the current pricing, it is easy to overpay for old hardware.