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Yea I took a few screenies just in case, talked to a supervisor and he said that they made a mistake. He already gave me a credit for the whole amount, I will just have to wait till that posts to my account.

I have been auto-refreshing Newegg/Tiger/Sabre since yesterday and have not seen one card available yet, but then you have forums where the user says he pucrhased 3 at one time... This sucks..

 
Yep, the guy who buys 3 probably bought them to eBay them, which sucks more.

It's like when I went to grab the SteelBook edition of the LOTR on BluRay, some A-hole bought 15 of them, which is exactly why a normal person can't go to work an then pick one up afterward. Thankfully I can take time off at 10am to go pick something like that up, but most people can't and it sucks that there is few effective ways to stop that type of person (limit 1 per customer just means they go 15 times) in 15 mins.

Probably similar here, with alot of D-bags buying them to sell them on eBay and maybe not even use them. :fou:
 


Well the thing is that yesterday I called the Egg a few times and asked to speak to a supervisor, I asked him how is it possible that a few users on a different forums we able to order multiple 480's when in fact me and a few others have been auto re-freshing EVERY 5 seconds on 3 different PC's simultaneosly and he told me that the site glitches every now n then showing a product available when in fact it is not (i knew this already). He also said to not pay attention to those threads becuase the cards have not arrived yet at the Egg's wharehouse so it is virtually impossible that a single trans went through.

I have a buddy that has been working for them since 2004 (RMA dept in Cali) and he states that the cards are arriving today at noon, but who knows... It's a waiting game 🙁
 
You guys are looking in all the wrong places 😛

But I shall say no more lest I lose my source, and then I'd be pissed 'cause I'll have nothing to compare my 5850's to............
 
* Reminder, "Should I buy....?" threads are to be posted in the main forum! * :non:

This sticky thread is for discussion specific to the GTX470/480 launch and aspects of the cards themselves, not request of what is best for individuals.
 


before you make your own thread, check out which ones have already been made on the subject (5850 vs GTX470), you should be able to find any info you need in those threads, and if you still have a question, then make your own thread
 
Basically...

GPU Chips don't always come out perfect. IF I wanted a chip (GTX480) to hit a target of 500something, and it doesn't, I can call that chip t he GTX470 and give it 400something. If it doesn't have 400something, I can call that chip the GTX460.
 


its about the DP performance(aka FP64), it was quartered on the GTX470/480 to sell more tesla cards, doesn't matter for gaming or PhysX so don't worry about it. Only be worried if you use Folding@Home, SETi@Home, or MilkyWay@Home as those will use the DP (FP64)

Nvidia 400 series crippled by Nvidia

EDIT: @shadow, i didn't even think about the lower tier cards losing CUDA cores as crippling, i though he meant the DP(FP64)
 
It's all about the marketing. As mindless mentioned it's about protecting the TESLA margins. Kinda makes sense since it's of little use to gaming and even video/picture editing, but of course that $crews the folks wanting to do things requiring DP (BTW, does F@H require DP, I thought GPU2 still ran fine on SP and that's what they were currently using for most models, with only a very small fraction being DP [since only the HD4-5K would do them fast and even then, not without access to LDS]).

Anywhoo, on another similar note I am now under the impression that PR/Mkt-crippling may be the case with the ATi HD5770 cards too since recently when talking about it in the OpenGL-4 discussion, they mentioned that the midrange might get DP in the future, without referring to a new generation, but more like it was something that might be enabled in the future if it was seen to be a worthy option for some features in applications running under OGL4.
 


Dang this came in after the other post.
Yeah, could be, we don't know for sure as initially it was though to simply not be available in the ASIC, not disabled after the fact like in the GTX. However as I mentioned above, that might end up being the case if that wasn't a mis-speak by the ATi rep (gonna go see if I can find that interview).

That would be nice, simply because it would be nice to have the option to play with on a mobile solution and that's not an option on any of the current ones. At least with nV it's 1/4 speed, not completely removed.


Can't find the original interview, there is reference to it here about emulation, but it's not full emulation, it's essentially a workaround (IIRC it uses the transcendental unit on the HD5800, but need to find the original info as to how it's there but not there on the HD5770);
http://www.geeks3d.com/20100317/radeon-hd-57xx-will-run-opengl-4-0-fp64-operations-on-gpu/

It's 100% on die, but not 100% native if that's any clearer, so not CPU assisted as mis-spoken in the above, but it's like Fermi's polymorph engine for tessellation in that it relies on a two stage process instead of dedicated DP units per shader/cluster.
 


WOW!

It beats the 5870, running at twice the power use, higher temps, and costing 150$+ more?

NV's one this battle for sure!

EDIT: And I wonder what the Power usage of a system with 4 GTX 480 on L2N at massive OCs and an i7-930 at 5.3ghz on L2N would be.......
 

That's impressive math of
410(the cheapest i found a 5870 to be going for out of 3 on-line retailers for the US) dollar vs 499 dollars(MSRP of a GTX 480) = 150 buck diff amazing math yo

And when you're talking about a premium product such as the 5870 480 5970 etc different market forces effect buying decision rather then just price for performance.

I would wonder the power usage on any 4 way sli rig with massive oc running on liquid helium hell if you have 2k just for buying cards you might as well get the good *** instead of the "poor mans" oc coolant *scoff*

here is an analogy if you were going to buy a sports car would you get a corvette or a ferrari, both look about the same on the outside and perform about the same on a track but a ferrari cost three times as much.

Personally i rather get the corvette, but the ferrari has status, it has unnecessary amounts of carbon fiber for an interior it's shiner etc etc. but all you have to do is adjust it so the ferrari is a wee bit faster.

it's not always about at cost sometimes it's about the best.
 
The card won't go for MSRP, the same way the 5850 isn't 260$ right now.

And, the 5870 is 400$, and 410$ on newegg.

And if it's about the best......

Then this little card called the 5970 does that.
 

quadfire 5970's vs 4 way sli gtx 480's on ln2, 4 5870's is a better match up then 2 5970's
 


Builder you are posting misleading info, the 470 is selling for 350.00$ and the 480 is selling for 499.99$, YES there are users that have already ordered theirs and the have not paid a penny more. To say that the cards are not going for the initial MSRP is non-sense.

The 5850 was 260.00$ back when it came out, say bye to that price because it aint comming back 😉

Dual 5970's scale horribly so IDK what your point is...

 
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