GTX480 / GTX470 Reviews and Discussion

[IzzyCraft]

Go to Newegg look at the 5870-5970 reviews you would be surprised to find how many people bought an Nvidia card to run for dedicated physX I'm not making it up.If its worthless then alot of people wasting money.

If you read reviews on new egg you should also check the little box saying the person bought it from newegg in the review. The only times i review things on newegg is when i have issues with it and i want people to know about potential issues so that is also something to take into consideration.

 

[Guest]

It seems like the 480 is worth more than the 470 right now lol You get a much much better cooler than the 470!

The 470@850 is 16K Vantage but Vantage is bad for representing game performance. The other guy reporting crash instability when volted@max @ 850 🙁 . Asus Cards are the one 2 get because you can Overvolt. Wondering if you can flash other cards with Asus bios.

http://service.futuremark.com/resultComparison.action?compareResultId=2090162&compareResultType=19

 

[OvrClkr]

It seems like the 480 is worth more than the 470 right now lol You get a much much better cooler than the 470!

The 470@850 is 16K Vantage but Vantage is bad for representing game performance. Asus Cards are the one 2 get because you can Overvolt. Wondering if you can flash other cards with Asus bios.

http://service.futuremark.com/resultComparison.action?compareResultId=2090162&compareResultType=19

lolz at that score, I get 14k with a single GTX 260, the 470 scores around 19k buddy 😉

when overvolted it should be in the 20/21k arena

 

[scirishman76]

It seems like the 480 is worth more than the 470 right now lol You get a much much better cooler than the 470!

The 470@850 is 16K Vantage but Vantage is bad for representing game performance. The other guy reporting crash instability when volted@max @ 850 🙁 . Asus Cards are the one 2 get because you can Overvolt. Wondering if you can flash other cards with Asus bios.

http://service.futuremark.com/resultComparison.action?compareResultId=2090162&compareResultType=19

Vantage is like the gtx400 worst test and IMO doesn't reflect real game performance as much as mark06 did in its day.

 

[Guest]

lolz at that score, I get 14k with a single GTX 260, the 470 scores around 19k buddy 😉

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv199/OvrClkr/470_mild_oc.png

when overvolted it should be in the 20/21k arena

btw that card is already maxed on volts, look at the tab, default is lower.

Edit: http://service.futuremark.com/resultComparison.action?compareResultId=2090162&compareResultType=19

So Why is that score low? DDR3 Vs DDR2?CPU?

I dont think a 470 will get 21K 100% stable on Air thow. Furemark 20min+ will prove that.

You should get a 480 over a 470. 😉

Wait it is around 18K not 19K lol

 

[welshmousepk]

Go to Newegg look at the 5870-5970 reviews you would be surprised to find how many people bought an Nvidia card to run for dedicated physX I'm not making it up.If its worthless then alot of people wasting money.

you think that is even a remotely accurate indication?

 

[OvrClkr]

btw that card is already maxed on volts, look at the tab, default is lower.

True, but he is not running at max voltage, that is just the max using smart doctor, he should be using Afterburner. Not sure why he chose SD over AB. Anyways you are right he is def. pushing that card over 480 spec's. Look at this bench :

 

[Guest]

I will take it as you were talking about the 480 in the 22k territory

Thats what I said, the 480 is a better buy since the Cooler is Waaay better than the 470 but the guy is running 100% Fan speed that should have insane noise 5K rpm , hence the 480 is more noisy than the 470

 

[OvrClkr]

480 on AIR :

 

[OvrClkr]

Yea but that is with a 980x at 4.5Ghz... that is just ridiculous fast..

 

[OvrClkr]

I will take it as you were talking about the 480 in the 22k territory

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5835/fermivantagesingle.jpg

Thats what I said, the 480 is a better buy since the Cooler is Waaay better than the 470 but the guy is running 100% Fan speed lol

I'm still not convinced that the 470 runs 95c @ LOAD. I will find out on Thursday once my 470 arrives, I am aiming at 80c LOAD/75% fan speed with a max ambient of 75F..

 

[Guest]

The 95C load is Fan Auto. Set it to 100% and your ready to go. The 480 fan has higher rpm and the heat-sink is more huge.

 

[scirishman76]

you think that is even a remotely accurate indication?

Yes I do every time I buy items from newegg I read not only site reviews but user reviews I sell customs on ebay and spent more than $20,000 at newegg last year and 99% of the time the reviews were accurate.You actually think people are going to go to newegg and post a review saying they had a dedicated physX card when they didn't.WOW you are desperate for answers.

 

[OvrClkr]

Yes I do every time I buy items from newegg I read not only site reviews but user reviews I sell customs on ebay and spent more than $20,000 at newegg last year and 99% of the time the reviews were accurate.You actually think people are going to go to newegg and post a review saying they had a dedicated physX card when they didn't.WOW you are desperate for answers.

Nonsense 😉

I have been purchasing hardware form the Egg since 2002 and if anything a big chunk of those reviews are NOT accurate. You have un-educated kids that post negative reviews when in fact they have no clue as to what they are doing. Many DOA reviews are not even DOA to begin with. I have seen many reviews where the user posts a second review stating that he is apologizing for not knowing squat to begin with, so IMHO if you think that the reviews from the Egg are considered 99% legit then you need to take a look again and use common sense.

I am going to give ya an example :

Here you can see my review at the bottom of the page 😉

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227298&cm_re=ocz_1066_ddr2-_-20-227-298-_-Product

If you look at the actual user reviews. you will see where more than 30% of the users returned the ram simply because they had no clue as to what they were doing in the first place. If you educate yourself prior to installing the RAM you will get better review %'s and less morons posting nonsense info.

 

[Guest]

Yea,on newegg people will even review a product that wasnt even released yet.
Or you have those posts where they say wast of many, too expensive in review of let say intel extreme processor, they don't even own the product lmao

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Guys, try to stick to posting links to those pictures or resizing them small with a link.

The forum is slow enough as it is with all the scripts and slow loading ad servers, a page full of image loads makes it painful.

 

[scirishman76]

Nonsense 😉

I have been purchasing hardware form the Egg since 2002 and if anything a big chunk of those reviews are NOT accurate. You have un-educated kids that post negative reviews when in fact they have no clue as to what they are doing. Many DOA reviews are not even DOA to begin with. I have seen many reviews where the user posts a second review stating that he is apologizing for not knowing squat to begin with, so IMHO if you think that the reviews from the Egg are considered 99% legit then you need to take a look again and use common sense.

I am going to give ya an example :

Here you can see my review at the bottom of the page 😉

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227298&cm_re=ocz_1066_ddr2-_-20-227-298-_-Product

If you look at the actual user reviews. you will see where more than 30% of the users returned the ram simply because they had no clue as to what they were doing in the first place. If you educate yourself prior to installing the RAM you will get better review %'s and less morons posting nonsense info.

In a way I agree with you also.What I meant is that if I need info on a product (fan noise,score in a certain popular bench,heat it produces,what mobo it works well with etc.etc.)I can usually find answers,however you are right about some people not knowing how to set up a product or doing something just plain stupid and saying it was doa.I still don't think anyone is gonna bother to go to newegg reviews and lie about having a dedicated physX card.

 

[OvrClkr]

In a way I agree with you also.What I meant is that if I need info on a product (fan noise,score in a certain popular bench,heat it produces,what mobo it works well with etc.etc.)I can usually find answers,however you are right about some people not knowing how to set up a product or doing something just plain stupid and saying it was doa.I still don't think anyone is gonna bother to go to newegg reviews and lie about having a dedicated physX card.

My point is that you should never rely simply on those reviews. Use other sources, websites, proof from the pros, etc..

The problem with the Egg is the simple fact that they do not remove most of the non-sense reviews and in-turn steer the potential customer away from a flawless product.

Another example is the board I am using. If you have previous experience with AM3 boards you should not have anything negative to say about the product unless it is DOA. But you still have people docking Eggs because they did not know that you have to manually adjust the values in the Bios prior to booting.

 

[OvrClkr]

Guys, try to stick to posting links to those pictures or resizing them small with a link.

The forum is slow enough as it is with all the scripts and slow loading ad servers, a page full of image loads makes it painful.

Heh, I deleted a few of my posts.. Hopefully this will help the user with "limited bandwidth" 😀

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Main thing you seem to forget s76, is if you give a rat's a$$ about PhysX you need to buy a secondary card for either solution to run well. It's not really the issue you make it out to be, because that HD4K with with dedicated PhysX GPU would still run faster than the GTX2xx running both the graphics and PhysX workload simultaneously.

That reality kinda nullifies your point unless you're comparing it to a system that can SLi the add-on PhysX card to provide additional boost when not being used for physX, and in the case of the GTX+GTS that's not possible.

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Heh, I deleted a few of my posts.. Hopefully this will help the user with "limited bandwidth" 😀

Yeah, it's not my bandwidth which should be more than fine at over 7Mb it's all the servers simultaneously loading different resources. Painful sometimes.

You know it's not bandwidth when it also happens at work where I am about as close to the backbone as you can get (I work 100ft from one of our fibre links in the downtown CO/telecom hotel) I pull over 100Mb all the time (more limited by the controller on my work laptop).

 

[scirishman76]

Main thing you seem to forget s76, is if you give a rat's a$$ about PhysX you need to buy a secondary card for either solution to run well. It's not really the issue you make it out to be, because that HD4K with with dedicated PhysX GPU would still run faster than the GTX2xx running both the graphics and PhysX workload simultaneously.

That reality kinda nullifies your point unless you're comparing it to a system that can SLi the add-on PhysX card to provide additional boost when not being used for physX, and in the case of the GTX+GTS that's not possible.

Do your homework most of the time the ati cards actually lose a few FPS when a physX card is added not gain.The ati card wasn't doing it to begin with so it doesn't decrease the workload at all just adds another limiting factor.Before you insult know what you are talking about PLZ.

 

[OvrClkr]

Another thing that should be mentioned is the fact that the GTX 480 that I posted above is running at 68c w/ 100% fan speed using Furmark/Kumbostor. In games the temp will be significantly lower since the GPU is not stressed to the same point.

I get 68c at 80% fan speed when running the same exact test, but when I game my GPU never goes past 55c at 65% fan speed.

Example :

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv199/OvrClkr/max_kumbostor.png

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv199/OvrClkr/BFBC2Game2010-03-1404-11-18-85.jpg

 

[scirishman76]

My point is that you should never rely simply on those reviews. Use other sources, websites, proof from the pros, etc..

The problem with the Egg is the simple fact that they do not remove most of the non-sense reviews and in-turn steer the potential customer away from a flawless product.

Another example is the board I am using. If you have previous experience with AM3 boards you should not have anything negative to say about the product unless it is DOA. But you still have people docking Eggs because they did not know that you have to manually adjust the values in the Bios prior to booting.

I run an Nforce 980A AM3 board and I agree it is a great board 4GB ddr3 1600@1796 8-8-8 have built several 785 and 790 amd boards and 2 890GX builds.I love the AM3 boards Nice to agree on something lol

 

[IzzyCraft]

My point is that you should never rely simply on those reviews. Use other sources, websites, proof from the pros, etc..

The problem with the Egg is the simple fact that they do not remove most of the non-sense reviews and in-turn steer the potential customer away from a flawless product.

Another example is the board I am using. If you have previous experience with AM3 boards you should not have anything negative to say about the product unless it is DOA. But you still have people docking Eggs because they did not know that you have to manually adjust the values in the Bios prior to booting.

Yeah the fun thing is about reviews if you check the box to remove people who did not buy it from newegg reviews tend to get more positive lol. Although still alot of DOA, i find on motherboard, ram and hdd's i take it with a grain of salt i've ordered 8 7200.12 HDD's this year from newegg not one doa despite what the reviews would say about it.

Although the only bad experience i had over the years is the power button on the CM Centurion 5 is crap like it's tool less installation, when i was younger the power button got stuck down and i spent like 1-2 hours checking parts, and testing crap becuase i couldn't figure out why the computer would boot up then turn off 2 seconds later without a post or w.e when it booted up fine before. lol my worst experience with electronics so far, - one bad stick of ram i got wasn't stable at listed speeds from crucial i believe.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16814162050
i mean it's reviews like this
" I cant wait to get one" seriously? not marked as bought it from newegg etc.

The avg newegg user should not be reviewing products haha 😀

About the high cpu score in vantage it's easy to know why that is, physx gives you like an 25000 in the cpu score or something ridiculous like that off a 480.

the 470 reaching 18k is pretty promising though lol too bad that isn't real game performance translation.

Show me the diff at 1920x1200 AFx16 AAx8/16 in game benches and i'll be gitty!