[SOLVED] High temps on a R5 3600

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Hi, I just recently bought a 3070ti and it generates A LOT more heat than my previous gpu. Because of this, my cpu is now starting to get really hot in some more demanding games. I've seen it go up to 95 and even 100C with the panels closed and up to 90C with the side panel open. I was told that my case could be the issue as it doesn't have the best airflow and is kind of old, but I am a little low on funds at the moment, so I am wondering if there are any settings or anything that can help lower the temp without buying a new case. I also am only using the stock cooler for the cpu. Thanks in advance.

Here are my specs:

Case: Corsair Carbide 100R
Mobo: Asrock B450m Pro 4
GPU: RTX 3070ti
CPU: R5 3600
RAM: 16GB RAM 3200mhz
 
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Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

Make and model of the cooler used to keep your processor cool? Fan placements and orientation in your case? Ambient room air temps? Might want to parse images of your case, without the front and side panels on to help us see what the innards/layout looks like and if there's anything that can be rearranged to aid with airflow.
 
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Lower the gpu's power limit? That's where the heat is coming from, after all.
The little Wraith cooler doesn't have a very high thermal capacity, so it's easily overwhelmed, being left to 'cool down' on the gpu's exhaust.
You can do this via Msi Afterburner. Unlink(chain link icon) the power and temperature limit, so you can change only the power limit slider.
 
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Unless you want to lose performance by lowering the GPU power limit you are going to need a new case. That case has terrible airflow. You are going to need a case with a mesh front panel. The airflow 4000d is a good choice or the h510 flow, lian li lancool ll mesh
 
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Like I said, the cooler is the stock one. I heard that getting a better cooler wouldn't help because my case just doesn't have enough airflow to make a difference. Not sure about the exact ambient room temp, but my thermostat is at 69F. For pics, I am at work now, but I got a few I can upload to imgur that I have already taken. If it's not enough, I can take more tonight in about 7 hours.

Here is the imgur album:

https://imgur.com/a/SECTnLP
View: https://imgur.com/a/SECTnLP


This was taken before my new PSU was installed so that's why there's a big open area at the bottom.
 
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logainofhades said:
You might want to take some canned air to the heatsink, to clean it out, and clean dust off fans, and any filters.
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These are old pics. I have cleaned the inside thoroughly since then. I also have redone the thermal paste recently.

For the better cooler, would it actually help with this case?? I would like to close the panel ideally. So if I still need to keep it open/still need a better case, it feels useless to get it.

Phaaze88 said:
Lower the gpu's power limit? That's where the heat is coming from, after all.
The little Wraith cooler doesn't have a very high thermal capacity, so it's easily overwhelmed, being left to 'cool down' on the gpu's exhaust.
You can do this via Msi Afterburner. Unlink(chain link icon) the power and temperature limit, so you can change only the power limit slider.
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How much lost performance are we talking about with this method?
 
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stuntmastah said:
How much lost performance are we talking about with this method?
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Too many variables to give you a concrete response. You might see none, negligible, small, moderate, heavy, etc.
Going to depend on the titles you play and how their engines utilize your hardware.
You wanted to know if there are any settings or anything that can help lower the temp without buying a new case - lowering the gpu's power limit is it.
Setting fps caps is another - if a game doesn't already have a preset cap - as higher fps generates more heat too.


So, play around with lower power limits, or:
-leave side panel off whenever it's game time.
-let the cpu cook during games until you've got some more cash.
-get a new cooler with what funds are available, like that Vetroo V5 logainofhades linked.
 
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Phaaze88 said:
Too many variables to give you a concrete response. You might see none, negligible, small, moderate, heavy, etc.
Going to depend on the titles you play and how their engines utilize your hardware.
You wanted to know if there are any settings or anything that can help lower the temp without buying a new case - lowering the gpu's power limit is it.
Setting fps caps is another - if a game doesn't already have a preset cap - as higher fps generates more heat too.


So, play around with lower power limits, or:
-leave side panel off whenever it's game time.
-let the cpu cook during games until you've got some more cash.
-get a new cooler with what funds are available, like that Vetroo V5 logainofhades linked.
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I am interested in the cooler, but I was told elsewhere that it won't change anything with the side panel on because the case just has horrible airflow. Is this really true though?
 
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stuntmastah said:
I am interested in the cooler, but I was told elsewhere that it won't change anything with the side panel on because the case just has horrible airflow. Is this really true though?
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No. A downdraft(the Wraith) is fundamentally different from a tower cooler: how they intake/exhaust air and the thermal capacity between the available models.
Downdrafts worked well during the times when chassis with side panel intake and blower/turbo gpus were more common.
Now, glass side panels and gpus that dump their waste heat in the PC are what's 'in', and a downdraft won't do all that well there unless power consumption is low, or the gpu is a blower/turbo model.

The Carbide 100R is limited to air coolers up to 150mm tall and 120mm AIOs - I don't recommend the latter unless you already have a backup cooler on hand.
 
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Phaaze88 said:
No. A downdraft(the Wraith) is fundamentally different from a tower cooler: how they intake/exhaust air and the thermal capacity between the available models.
Downdrafts worked well during the times when chassis with side panel intake and blower/turbo gpus were more common.
Now, glass side panels and gpus that dump their waste heat in the PC are what's 'in', and a downdraft won't do all that well there unless power consumption is low, or the gpu is a blower/turbo model.

The Carbide 100R is limited to air coolers up to 150mm tall and 120mm AIOs - I don't recommend the latter unless you already have a backup cooler on hand.
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So you think the Vetroo V5 52 CFM CPU Cooler (the one Logainofhades posted) will do the job? The size seems fine, but the 150W TDP is kind of worrying. I have a 750W PSU. I also have 2x 2.5" SSDs and 1x M.2 drive (forgot to mention these in the specs above).
 
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Yes.
We really can't rely on those TDP ratings anymore. How manufacturers determine that isn't even universally agreed upon, or doesn't have a universal standard.

The cooler needs to cool the cpu and deal with some of the heat coming off the gpu. Cpus don't pull much power at all in games - 100w, give or take? The recent gaming gpus are pulling 2, 3, and 4 times that...
That's why there's quite a few threads involving, 'high/high-ish cpu thermals in game, when cpu isn't drawing much power', because a decent chunk comes from the gpu... which then baffles me when I see top mounted cpu AIO recommended so often...
 
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Alright thanks for the info guys! I'll order that cooler and report back! :)

EDIT: Just realized I was using AMD Ryzen High Performance power plan which apparently uses more power and generates more heat for barely any performance increase so I switched it to AMD Ryzen Balanced. So that should help as well.
 
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