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I recently purchased and assembled a p4 system. I have no complaints so please don't flame me. What I'd like is some info or resources that would help me tweak it to get the best performance. I have the p4 1.5 and an asus p4t board. I can change settings like FSB and so on through the bios without changing jumpers with this board and that is a plus. I just don't want to break it by fiddling around too much.
 
Use Linux, re-write the source code to take advantage of SSE2 optimizations, now re-compile all your software.

...or you could wait about six months for software developers to optimize software, but by that time the <i>Northwood</i> P4 will be out, and Intel will throw all of its support to the <i>Northwood/Brookdale</i> systems (which use a new socket design and SDRAM), and leave <i>Williamette</i> owners high and dry.

Don't expect to upgrade hardware. All you can really do to significantly impact performance is to get SSE2 optimized software. Sorry.
 
are amd fanatics dumb as you? Read the post, read the person simple question! then read it again.

Ok, he's what I know, the P4 is an extremely overclockable cpu, with proper cooling you can expect it to go as high as 1.7mhz.

for more info, Read tom's hardware guide on how he o
c'd his P4.

Also, a lot of developers are optimizing their software for the P4's sse2 mostly graphics companies like Adobe, Macromedia and a bunch of 3d software devs.

So, purchasing a P4 system is not a total waste like "amd puppies" may lead you to believe, So what! they saved $200 or more on their systems but what are they using it for? GAMES??? like battlezone????



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Heh, I couldn't find the oc guide on here at first glance but I'll look harder. But I like hearing that Adobe and Macromedia and 3d software developers are optimizing. I use all those and I program with MS Visual Studio apps! Hmm, there seems to be some sort of football game starting at the moment. Oh well I need my p4 answers first.
 
"I recently purchased and assembled a p4 system" Hmmm, unless intel has changed there mobo's as of late I doubt there is any overclocking options.

A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing!
 
"Also, a lot of developers are optimizing their software for the P4's sse2 mostly graphics companies like Adobe, Macromedia and a bunch of 3d software devs." yup like the man said wait six months............

A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing!
 
"So, purchasing a P4 system is not a total waste like "amd puppies" may lead you to believe, So what! they saved $200 or more on their systems but what are they using it for? " Total waste.....no....Smart investment....time will tell. limited future upgrades...yes Amd users saving only 200 bucks over an intel p4...you gotta be kidding me!!!!!!!!

A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing!
 
Ok, he's what I know, the P4 is an extremely overclockable cpu, with proper cooling you can expect it to go as high as 1.7mhz.
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Wow.... 1.7MHz! I knew those things were overclockable, but not <i>that</i> overclockable....... Hell that's almost as fast as my 286!!!












So, purchasing a P4 system is not a total waste like "amd puppies" may lead you to believe, So what! they saved $200 or more on their systems but what are they using it for? GAMES??? like battlezone????
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First of all Battlezone is the best game ever made, obviously you've never played it so you don't know. Another stupid post where you don't think before you click the "continue" button.

2nd, while we're saving $200, as you would say (we're actually saving about $400), we're also gaining performance. And with that $200 (actually $400), we can buy a better video card or maybe more memory, whatever. So instead of a P4 with 128MB we have a Tbird 1.2 (which performs better) and 256, 384, or even 512MB of RAM, or maybe a TNT2 vs. GF2 UltrA? Who knows.

But obviously this is another one of your posts where you make a complete fool of yourself posting before you think.
 
I want a P4. Who cares if it costs a lot more than the Athlon is outperformed in 90% of apps by the Athlon. I have money to burn and I don't mind paying more for less. Hehehehe.............
 
I thought I'd let you know that I feel like flaming you but I wont because that accomplishes nothing. Anyways I don't have to explain my decesions to you or people like you but I will. Money was no object for me when I made this purchase. I should have gotten an SGI for the money I put into this system but I'll do that for my next comp. Now, I have the Asus P4T board which is very overclockable, check out http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA002374/src/info.html and see for yourself. And you might want to change that quote at the end of all your posts unless you like the irony of it. Any other questions you have I'd be more then happy to answer so you don't have to make those assanine assumptions anymore(Was that a flame? Oops).
 
First and foremost I did not by anyway mean to insult you, my post's were in reply to AMDMELTDOWN who, at every chance he gets likes to try to make a point for Amd being sh**. I did however misread one aspect of your post, I read "I recently purchased and assembled a p4 system" As, I recently purchased an assembled p4 system. Sorry you have my humble apologies. However, the other points I made were still valid rebutalls of his post, not yours. You certainly have any right you choose to spend your money as you wish. You now have the undisputed mflask machine. So now that I have said that please tell us did it only cost you $200.00 more as AMDMELTDOWN said? Would you buy it again if you had the chance to do it so, or would you opt for a different route. Please now feel free to read this in regards to your purchase.

http://www.eetimes.com/story/industry/semiconductor_news/OEG20010126S0020



A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing!
 
I'm glad we got things cleared up. Thank you for your cordial reply. I apologize too for the miscommunication I caused. The processor cost about 1K. The only change I would make to my current system would be by making all the devices SCSI. The only thing that gets me is how it's cheaper to buy 4 128mb RDRAM then to buy 2 256's. But I had to get a freind to help me to put it together because the mobo was set 1mm to low and was shorting out on it's mounting plate. And the fact that I'll have to get a new mobo in a year if I want to upgrade the processor is no biggie because my case is WTX compliant and should handle it.
 
"Ok, he's what I know, the P4 is an extremely overclockable cpu, with proper cooling you can expect it to go as high as 1.7mhz."

LOL my old 486 was 33Mhz and i now have a 550MHz celeron
if the p4 is 1.5GHz and OCs to 1.7 GHz, thats only a 13% overclock. pathethic compared to the P3's overclockability
 
It's amazing how stoopid these amd puppies are!

here is the info from Dr. Pabst's article concerning the P4 and it's performance when tested against a Amd system of his choice.

http://www4.tomshardware.com/cpu/00q4/001206/index.html

here's a quote from that article that amd puppies find offensive.

"Bottom line is that Pentium 4 is indeed able to deliver excellent performance once software has been optimized for it. FlasK is an example showing that Athlon cannot always beat Pentium 4, even when the software has special Athlon-optimizations. My estimate of Athlon's inability to beat Pentium 4 in this test is that Athlon runs into bandwidth limitations with this streaming benchmark. In case of MPEG4-encoding Pentium 4's fast quad-pumped 100 MHz bus plus the dual-Rambus channel memory access of i850 seems superior to Athlon's dual-pumped 133 MHz bus and the 133 MHz DDR-SDRAM memory solution of AMD760. That's why even the best optimizations can't give Athlon enough of a boost to overtake Pentium 4." Dr. Pabst, Toms hardware guide Dec 6, 2000

again the above is quoted from the article entitled "Pentium 4 vs. Athlon - Final Recount"

Yes, this did not sit well with amd fans, and if you follow a thread in these forums about the P4, where tom himself admonishes several amd fanatics! and tom is the hero who they worship!

this was toms fourth and "final say" on the P4 vs Amd issue, but who knows.

I welcome you to read his past articles to see and compare what your choices are, there are a total of four opinionated articles.


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Well since the p4 is clock locked I can only change the FSB and voltage. But I changed the FSB to 115 and the voltage to 1.8 and it's running stable at 1725. And believe it or not this whole thread actually did help me. I think I'll slap on a peltier cooler or a golden orb and crank it up some more in the near future. That actually made a noticable differnce. One note though memory is a big part too and the more the better. I think I'm gonna go from my current 128 to 384. The cpu came wiht 2 64's and I'll buy 2 128's. Oh, I could get one of those vapo chill cases and strip the parts and use them in my current case, hehe j/k.
 
Just as I said you have the undisputed flask king all at the conservative price of 1k for a processor LMAO. Pretty pathetic you have only one benchmark to date to show us your intel superiority. SSE2 yeah great I welcome it but not if it comes a the expense of a crippled fpu like the p4. AMDMEATHEAD....arent't you the one complaining about the power supplies, fans and all for the athlons? You gonna run that p4 on a 250 watt power supply?

A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing!
 
Check with microsoft there is a cpu pack for Visual C++ 6 that is suppost to allow optimization for sse, sse2, and 3d now. It will help out when you run those programs on your machine and anyone else with a modern cpu really. Its in the downloads for c++ under msdn i think, but you have to have service pack 4 or higher for it.
 
what are you crying 'bout, I don't own a P4, I run dual systems exclusively! hehe.

go back to your expensive videogame console! and get rid of that sig, because you are not knowlegdable at all!


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<i>Who's</i> not knowledgeable!?!?!

First of all, that test wen't perfectly fine for us AMD people. Do you think we give a crap if the P4 actualy beats the Athlon once, and in the stuff that we use the less? HA! Guess again, dumbass.
 
you're right, I guess your hahathlon is more suited for games you play on your overly expensive game console or mayb e it's so fast that it keeps up with your maniacal posting behavior.

what's the use of having the worlds fastest cpu if you can't even put it to good use?


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LOL I've never bought a console in my life HAHAHAH!!!!! (EXcept 2600, which isn't expensive at all)

Worlds fastest CPU I think not. CPU with World's largest clock speed yes. But fastest no.
 
Quoted Ncognito "unless intel has changed there mobo's as of late I doubt there is any overclocking options."

This should give you good idea how stupid Ncognito is. Did you even read his post or you went right to flaming?

He said he has a ASUS mobo = very overclockable.

The P4 has 3.2Gb/s bandwidth on the BUS, something that no AMD on earth can touch. Sorry for getting too technical, im sure you cannot understand that and your cluessless to how this could possibly be a good thing.

Dont forget Intel owns AMD and Quake 3 as well =)
 
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