[SOLVED] i need some serious advice and suggetions

[Rocky6]

my current specs:

cpu: i5 3570 @3.40Ghz ram, : ddr3 hyperx fury 1886Mhz, Gpu: Geforce GTX 1050 ti OC edition ,psu: 350w

I mainly play fortnite and some good grahics game like gta 5, forza horizon , pubg pc etc , but from sometime idk why the cpy goes up to 91 degree c* didnt do anything that would cause that.
when i play on 60 fps stays on 75-85c* . But if i unlock the fps it goes 85c*+ almost all time . idk why , but that day when i got to know it started to heat there was a current fluctuation in my electricity tower next to me, after some time i was playing fortnite the cabinent was too hot. idk wt happend, when i touch from cabinent back panel

its the motherborad is very hottt, my case dosnt hav good cooling only one 80mm fan is the near ioshield and cpu fan thats it . even my psu gets heat too much its i ball company psu and case .My pc is around 5 years old until i added 1050ti 2yrs back. idk waht to do should i just buy new cpu cooler, new cabinent and a powersupply and play with it for another 2yrs and buy a fully new pc after that, OR my plan is to change to new, cpu: rysen 5 2600 , mobo: gigabyte b450, ram: 8gb ddr4 corsair venegance, and 550w psu and same gpu (for sometime), and a new good cooling system case. and later ill upgrade my gpu to rtx 2060 when the price goes to lowestand use it for another 5yrs . i know there is a bottleneck of 10% for that plan spec. Pls suggest me what to do i need some real help here my brain is already lagging to think this much

 

[Shektron]

my current specs:

cpu: i5 3570 @3.40Ghz ram, : ddr3 hyperx fury 1886Mhz, Gpu: Geforce GTX 1050 ti OC edition ,psu: 350w

I mainly play fortnite and some good grahics game like gta 5, forza horizon , pubg pc etc , but from sometime idk why the cpy goes up to 91 degree c* didnt did anything that would cause that.
when i play on 60 fps stays on 75-85c* . But if i unlock the fps it goes 85c*+ almost all time . idk why , but that day when i got to know it started to heat there was a current fluctuation in my electricity tower next to me, after some time i was playing fortnite the cabinent was too hot. idk wt happend, when i touch from cabinent back panel
its the motherborad is very hottt, my case dosnt hav good cooling only one 80mm fan is the near ioshield and cpu fan thats it . even my psu gets heat too much its i ball company psu and case .My pc is around 5 years old until i added 1050ti 2yrs back. idk waht to do should i just buy new cpu cooler, new cabinent and a powersupply and play with it for another 2yrs and buy a fully new pc after that, OR my plan is to change to new, cpu: rysen 5 2600 , mobo: gigabyte b450, ram: 8gb ddr4 corsair venegance, and 550w psu and same gpu (for sometime), and a new good cooling system case. and later ill upgrade my gpu to rtx 2060 when the price goes to lowestand use it for another 5yrs . i know there is a bottleneck of 10% for that plan spec. Pls suggest me what to do i need some real help here my brain is already lagging to think this much

I would suggest with the second plan, that is, get the CPU, motherboard, RAM and PSU right now, use the 1050 Ti a bit longer, then get the best GPU you can afford. This is because your current PSU is very poor quality and may damage other parts and cause problems, plus you definitely need a case with better airflow if you want the heating problem to be resolved.

 

[Rocky6]

I would suggest with the second plan, that is, get the CPU, motherboard, RAM and PSU right now, use the 1050 Ti a bit longer, then get the best GPU you can afford. This is because your current PSU is very poor quality and may damage other parts and cause problems, plus you definitely need a case with better airflow if you want the heating problem to be resolved.

if i only updraged the cpu cooler , case and powersupply??? because my budget is a bit low right now

 

[Shektron]

if i only updraged the cpu cooler , case and powersupply??? because my budget is a bit low right now

Don't really need to upgrade the CPU cooler if you're getting a case with better airflow. Buy some good thermal paste as well and reapply the CPU cooler after changing the thermal paste on it. Just a case with good airflow, and a good quality PSU, and you should be able to resolve the temp issues.

 

[Rocky6]

Don't really need to upgrade the CPU cooler if you're getting a case with better airflow. Buy some good thermal paste as well and reapply the CPU cooler after changing the thermal paste on it. Just a case with good airflow, and a good quality PSU, and you should be able to resolve the temp issues.

not only temp issue bro imean if i change only cpu cooler case and psu, maybe after an year or so ill upgrade my mobo , cpu , ram and gpu . my point is will my current specs with new cpu cooler, case and psu will give a good perfomance atleast for another year i play fortnite,forza horizone and gta 5?

 

[Zerk2012]

not only temp issue bro imean if i change only cpu cooler case and psu, maybe after an year or so ill upgrade my mobo , cpu , ram and gpu . my point is will my current specs with new cpu cooler, case and psu will give a good perfomance atleast for another year i play fortnite,forza horizone and gta 5?

Have you cleaned the inside of the PC out including the cooler?

 

[Rocky6]

nope bro i

Have you cleaned the inside of the PC out including the cooler?

yep

 

[Shektron]

not only temp issue bro imean if i change only cpu cooler case and psu, maybe after an year or so ill upgrade my mobo , cpu , ram and gpu . my point is will my current specs with new cpu cooler, case and psu will give a good perfomance atleast for another year i play fortnite,forza horizone and gta 5?

If you plan on buying a Ryzen CPU, you don't really need an aftermarket cooler, most of the stock Ryzen coolers are good enough and buying a new CPU cooler is, for most people, a wasted investment. Plus, seeing that you're on a budget, you probably shouldn't waste any money on the CPU cooler, either use the extra money for better PSU or just save it for the future purchases.

In short, don't buy the CPU cooler, just case and PSU right now, and then the system upgrade you can do whenever you have the money to. If you're buying the Ryzen 5 2600, I'd suggest instead going for the 2600X or the 3600X, because those two come with better stock cooler than the 2600 and 3600.

 

[Rae Nelvin]

when i touch from cabinent back panel
its the motherborad is very hottt

You stated that your motherboard got really hot which is really bad for your PC for further use. And changing the CPU Cooler won't do anything if there's no good airflow in the case that can result the motherboard overheating. You could literally burn your motherboard and boom, your PC's done. You won't be able to turn on or anything but to buy new motherboard. So, as Shektron stated before, now you only need to buy new PC case and new PSU. And make sure before you buy your new PSU, better you plan on getting the right amount of PSU for your "upgrade plan" on changing the GPU and CPU. So you don't have to sell the current new PSU.

 

[Rocky6]

If you plan on buying a Ryzen CPU, you don't really need an aftermarket cooler, most of the stock Ryzen coolers are good enough and buying a new CPU cooler is, for most people, a wasted investment. Plus, seeing that you're on a budget, you probably shouldn't waste any money on the CPU cooler, either use the extra money for better PSU or just save it for the future purchases.

In short, don't buy the CPU cooler, just case and PSU right now, and then the system upgrade you can do whenever you have the money to. If you're buying the Ryzen 5 2600, I'd suggest instead going for the 2600X or the 3600X, because those two come with better stock cooler than the 2600 and 3600.

if i buy r 53600 will it bottleneck with 1050ti?

 

[Rocky6]

You stated that your motherboard got really hot which is really bad for your PC for further use. And changing the CPU Cooler won't do anything if there's no good airflow in the case that can result the motherboard overheating. You could literally burn your motherboard and boom, your PC's done. You won't be able to turn on or anything but to buy new motherboard. So, as Shektron stated before, now you only need to buy new PC case and new PSU. And make sure before you buy your new PSU, better you plan on getting the right amount of PSU for your "upgrade plan" on changing the GPU and CPU. So you don't have to sell the current new PSU.

waht if i go with r5 3600, 8 gbram ddr4 , a320m motherboard, 550w psu , beter cooling case and use my same 1050ti with it until rtx 2060 price goes down and ill buy rtx 2060 later

 

[Rae Nelvin]

if i buy r 53600 will it bottleneck with 1050ti?

No, it should be fine.

waht if i go with r5 3600, 8 gbram ddr4 , a320m motherboard, 550w psu , beter cooling case and use my same 1050ti with it until rtx 2060 price goes down and ill buy rtx 2060 later

I'd suggest you buy A520/B550/X370 chipset motherboard since it's very future proof for further new AMD CPUs. If you want cheaper options, you can go with B450/X370 chipset motherboard. But the B450/X370 chipset motherboard I think, it won't be compatible with new AMD CPUs like maybe the AMD Ryzen 5000 series. Since, these 2 chipset motherboard has already 2 years old and is struggling with the AMD Ryzen 4000 series. And you need to update the BIOS for AMD Ryzen 5 3600 if you go with the cheaper options.

 

[hang-the-9]

You should be able to just add more case fans to the system, one case fan is not enough to keep a gaming system cooled. Did you apply the correct amount of thermal paste to the CPU cooler when you cleaned it? Make sure it's on tight enough?

 

[Rocky6]

No, it should be fine.

I'd suggest you buy A520/B550/X370 chipset motherboard since it's very future proof for further new AMD CPUs. If you want cheaper options, you can go with B450/X370 chipset motherboard. But the B450/X370 chipset motherboard I think, it won't be compatible with new AMD CPUs like maybe the AMD Ryzen 5000 series. Since, these 2 chipset motherboard has already 2 years old and is struggling with the AMD Ryzen 4000 series. And you need to update the BIOS for AMD Ryzen 5 3600 if you go with the cheaper options.

b550 price is a bit higer than budget. or whar is i go with i5 9400f, B360M motheboard 8gb ram 550w and same gpu because intel is way cheaper at my budget OR can i use b450?

 

[Shektron]

b550 price is a bit higer than budget. or whar is i go with i5 9400f, B360M motheboard 8gb ram 550w and same gpu because intel is way cheaper at my budget OR can i use b450?

If you don't plan on upgrading from the Ryzen 5 3600 any time soon, you can buy a B450 board, but keep in mind that in the future if you need to upgrade the CPU, you'll need to change the motherboard again. My suggestion would be to go with a B450 board with the 3600, and try to get 16 gb RAM if possible, and keep the 1050 Ti for now, upgrade when it is possible. The 3600 will handle the 1050 Ti and the RTX 2060 without any problems.

@Rae Nelvin honestly I don't think B550 will support 5000 series either, because AMD said the AM4 socket will be supported till 2020, so the 5000 series will probably be on an entirely different socket anyway. B550 will support 4000 series, though, that I think is fair enough to say.

 

[Rocky6]

If you don't plan on upgrading from the Ryzen 5 3600 any time soon, you can buy a B450 board, but keep in mind that in the future if you need to upgrade the CPU, you'll need to change the motherboard again. My suggestion would be to go with a B450 board with the 3600, and try to get 16 gb RAM if possible, and keep the 1050 Ti for now, upgrade when it is possible. The 3600 will handle the 1050 Ti and the RTX 2060 without any problems.

@Rae Nelvin honestly I don't think B550 will support 5000 series either, because AMD said the AM4 socket will be supported till 2020, so the 5000 series will probably be on an entirely different socket anyway. B550 will support 4000 series, though, that I think is fair enough to say.

what is about rysen 5 2600 ? because its more cheaper than 3600?

 

[Rocky6]

If you don't plan on upgrading from the Ryzen 5 3600 any time soon, you can buy a B450 board, but keep in mind that in the future if you need to upgrade the CPU, you'll need to change the motherboard again. My suggestion would be to go with a B450 board with the 3600, and try to get 16 gb RAM if possible, and keep the 1050 Ti for now, upgrade when it is possible. The 3600 will handle the 1050 Ti and the RTX 2060 without any problems.

@Rae Nelvin honestly I don't think B550 will support 5000 series either, because AMD said the AM4 socket will be supported till 2020, so the 5000 series will probably be on an entirely different socket anyway. B550 will support 4000 series, though, that I think is fair enough to say.

or what if i go with intel i5 9400f its cheap and H310M 8gb ram 550w and same gpu until rtx 2060 price goes down ? because i may not need to upragrade motherboard agian any time soon

 

[Shektron]

what is about rysen 5 2600 ? because its more cheaper than 3600?

The 2600 will work perfectly on B450 motherboards, and also on B550 motherboards. I would recommend you to avoid A320 and A520 motherboards, they are not meant for gaming PC's, only for OEM PC's (prebuilts) for people who do not care about what's in the system, as long as it works. Go for B450 with either 2600 or 3600, that's your best option. I'd recommend the X variants because, like I said, they have better stock cooler.

or what if i go with intel i5 9400f its cheap and H310M 8gb ram 550w and same gpu until rtx 2060 price goes down ? because i may not need to upragrade motherboard agian any time soon

9400F isn't a great processor, you could go for it but I'd suggest sticking with either Ryzen 5 options or going with 10th gen i5 instead, since those come with hyperthreading. If you don't have budget for i5 10400, stick with Ryzen 5 2600/3600/2600X/3600X.

 

[Rae Nelvin]

@Rae Nelvin honestly I don't think B550 will support 5000 series either, because AMD said the AM4 socket will be supported till 2020, so the 5000 series will probably be on an entirely different socket anyway. B550 will support 4000 series, though, that I think is fair enough to say.

@Shektron thanks for letting me know that information! I didn't know about that before. My apologize for making such statements before reading newest article.

what is about rysen 5 2600 ? because its more cheaper than 3600?

I use Ryzen 5 2600 and it perform great for entry-level. And obviously it's more beneficial than Intel I5 9400F due to it's hyperthreading. It has more core and more thread than Intel I5 9400F. But, it came back to you. What will you use your PC for? Multitasking? Or single task for gaming?
And if you want the most worth it setup Intel especially for gaming, you'd need Z series motherboard for the compatibility to fast RAM module that can straightly empty your wallet. While for the AMD, you can use cheap motherboard and it's overclockable and compatible with fast RAM module.

 

[Rocky6]

The 2600 will work perfectly on B450 motherboards, and also on B550 motherboards. I would recommend you to avoid A320 and A520 motherboards, they are not meant for gaming PC's, only for OEM PC's (prebuilts) for people who do not care about what's in the system, as long as it works. Go for B450 with either 2600 or 3600, that's your best option. I'd recommend the X variants because, like I said, they have better stock cooler.


9400F isn't a great processor, you could go for it but I'd suggest sticking with either Ryzen 5 options or going with 10th gen i5 instead, since those come with hyperthreading. If you don't have budget for i5 10400, stick with Ryzen 5 2600/3600/2600X/3600X.

is i5 10400 good for gaming and streaming ?? without fps drops

 

[Rae Nelvin]

is i5 10400 good for gaming and streaming ?? without fps drops

Yes it is. But it'll bottleneck your GPU. Gaming is not only about having a high-end CPU. If you want a good performance you need to buy both high-end GPU and CPU for example the i5 10400 + RTX 2080. But yeah, with the huge capability of i5 10400 it'll bottleneck your GTX 1050 Ti since the GPU's already old and not capable enough for current games. You won't even be able to play some games on High/Ultra settings using that GPU anymore.

 

[Rocky6]

what if i use r5 3600 will i get bottleneck with 1050ti?

 

[Rae Nelvin]

what if i use r5 3600 will i get bottleneck with 1050ti?

By playing your games? No it won't. AMD Ryzen 5 3600 combined with GTX 1050 Ti is great for playing those game ON MEDIUM - LOW settings. The CPU won't overheat that wouldn't result any thermal throttle and wouldn't get the fps down. But, if you want to play on higher settings, your GPU basically is not capable of doing that. So, you'll experience low frame-rate and some fps drop. But, for now basically I'd suggest you upgrade your CPU since that's the culprit for overheating and upgrade your GPU for newer GPU cards such as RTX 3000 series.

 

[Shektron]

what if i use r5 3600 will i get bottleneck with 1050ti?

The 10400 and the R5 3600 are both good options for upgrade, and no the 10400 will not bottleneck the 1050 Ti or the 2060, I don't think the other guy understands how bottlenecks work. With the 10400, you don't really need fast RAM, and you can use a cheaper board like B460 or even H410(wouldn't recommend H410 as they're mostly very low quality). With the R5 3600, you get the benefit of having unlocked multiplier even on B450, which means you can overclock it. But it needs fast RAM to avoid bottleneck, at least 3200 MHz speed, recommended is 3600 MHz. The 10400 has locked multiplier, you can't overclock it on any board, but it doesn't need fast RAM, even 2400 or 2666 MHz will be fine. The performance difference between these two chips wouldn't be very noticeable, especially if your monitor is 60-144 Hz.

You can compare the prices of the compatible motherboards, what RAM you'll need to buy, and the CPU itself, and based on that make your decision. I think a decent B460 board will cost you at least $90, and a decent B450 board will also be in that range only. So motherboards will be approximately the same cost, no matter you go Intel or AMD. The 10400 is about $180 right now, the 2600 is $140, and 3600 is $200. RAM is a little harder to price, because the prices change almost daily. As of typing this, 3000 MHz RAM actually costs lesser than 2400 or 2666 MHz RAM, probably due to sale on some store. Anyway, usually I've seen 16 GB of 3200-3600 MHz RAM costing around $70-75, and 2400 MHz is near the $50 mark.

You'll need to make your choice based on prices, because neither of these CPU's is going to cause any bottlenecking in your system, neither with the 1050 Ti nor with the 2060. Both are capable CPUs, and both have their pros and cons. Right now, it seems the best value is probably going to be a 2600 with a B450 board and some 3200 MHz RAM. 16 GB of 3200 MHz can be bought for $57 as of typing this, which is a pretty good price. The 3600 is better than the 2600, of course, but the difference really doesn't show up unless you have a high refresh rate monitor, that is above 120 Hz.

 

[Rae Nelvin]

I don't think the other guy understands how bottlenecks work.

If you're referring it to me, I do understand how bottlenecks work. It's like you're pairing an old Intel Pentium chip with RTX 3080 where playing like let's say Tom Raider, the CPU Usage is already at max while the GPU usage still chilling at 10-30%. But what I don't understand is that he keep asking is the CPU will bottleneck the GPU? I mean, what I intended to answer is, using the GTX 1050 Ti won't be able to get high fps on high settings EVEN if you're CPU is capable playing on that settings. But that doesn't mean it's bottleneck right? It's just the GPU is already at full capability. So that's not bottleneck, like I answered before. I'm not sure why the OP guy keep asking and he even wrote new thread yesterday answering the exactly same question.

But overall, @Shektron 's last answer has great details of your question dear @Rocky6 . I'm not sure what to expect if you'd still asking about "bottlenecking".